East End Fan Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, arthur cross said: Yes it's a greyhound track - what's more, it's currently one of the busiest closed-doors greyhound tracks with 6 meetings a week (mid-morning into lunchtimes every Mon-Tue-Wed-Thu plus both Friday & Sunday nights), each of those meetings on its own being worth more in betting industry tv-fees than a speedway meeting's rent plus catering profit. Let a crowd in for speedway and risk the news a couple of days later of a covid-positive spectator ? - if that scenario happened, that's a fortnight's quarantine for anything at the stadium and so, given their hectic dog schedule, bang go 12 greyhound fees !! Are you still wondering why any of the greyhound landlords that enjoy the bonus of speedway revenue have had to protect their bigger (and all-year-round) revenue first ? !! Are the public allowed to attend dog meetings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, East End Fan said: Are the public allowed to attend dog meetings ? No they're not. What's more, not even greyhound owners are currently permitted to attend the tracks to watch from the stands whereas horse racing is permitting a very heavily controlled return of its sport's owners to their grandstands (and did so as early as the Derby & Oaks day at Epsom on 4th July). Instead, the greyhound tracks are requiring confirmation the day before of exactly which trainers and kennelhands will be attending each upcoming meeting while the racing office staffing is at its minimum - overall, that's meant more animals than humans in attendance with at least one track managing to stage 14 races (84 dogs) while keeping its human register below 50 people despite that number needing to cover trainers,, kennelhands, track staff, racing staff and management. At least most (probably all) tracks are insisting that a senior management member is effectively the on-track referee of the meeting, making sure the greyhounds and their kennelhands parade far enough apart pre-race, that the greyhounds are loaded into the traps either 2-or-3-at-a-time to create some social distancing rather than all-6-at-once and that the kennelhands only gradually collect their greyhounds on the back straight after the race rather than the usual rush of everyone-at-once. Greyhound racing made a big effort to make sure it could re-open closed-doors immediately it was allowed to do so on 1st June (even explaining its case and then getting a special 2-week exemption before that for its tracks to be used only for time-trial sessions in that fortnight to comply with that sport's rulebook about making sure the runners had up-to-date form and were closer to race-fitness) - having worked so hard back in May to secure such an early closed-doors return (which has protected most of the betting-televised meetings, therefore around two-thirds of the overall pre-covid total), it's now being very careful how fast it does any degree of open-doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Defeatist and brave in the same breath. But what else can you do? I've watched speedway at Central Park a few times but can't now recall: is it a greyhound track? If so, no surprise they have bailed out of 2020. Sensible. Not defeatist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Sensible. Not defeatist. All negativity hides behind "realism". No doubt we'll soon hear calls to give up on the 2021 season :-( Edited July 26, 2020 by RobMcCaffery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: All negativity hides behind "realism". No doubt we'll soon hear calls to give up on the 2021 season :-( No it doesn't The world record for the long jump is 8.95m. So if there is a canyon which is 9m wide and someone say's they are going to jump it, the chances are fairly slim that they could make it even if they held out their arms and tried to grab hold of the other side. So it is pretty idiotic to attempt . It was fairly clear where we were heading from the off with Covid and it was realistic to mention this and say the chances were slim of a proper season. As things developed it looked fairly unlikey we woukd even get a shortened season and it was idealistic bordering on stupidity to think otherwise Not sure what the point is of someone who doesn't go to speedway trying to have a pop at someone else's opinion ? I don't get any satisfaction about being right on this forum very early on. I was actually looking forward to the season getting underway. Vojens (which is easy for me to get to) were entering the Danish Superliga for the first time in about a decade,plus Wittstock were/are entering the Polish div 2 and had one of their early meetings planned for my spring holidays. I was looking forward to seeing some great action. All lost now. When and if it all starts it will be very difficult for me to attend. Atm I am not allowed into Denmark unless I have 6 nights booked in a hotel, which I can't do just to attend a speedway meeting, where I would have travelled to and back in a day without spending a single night in a hotel....as for Wittstock, atm the one meeting I could attend happen to be on my partners birthday, so a no-go Edited July 26, 2020 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Me or we too, in addition to the nearby Scunny we had plans to take in Sheffield, Belle Vue, maybe Redcar & Peterborough and possibly Wolves. Though Peterbrough soon became a 'prob not' due to the disabled parking issues; no iffs or buts sadly it would likely have been too far for my mate's dad to walk from the parking area to the stand, or at least the stadium section. One solution for you, Iris123, though would be to take your partner to Wittstock speedway for a birthday treat you would both 'just happen to enjoy'. Go on, you know you want to and you may just 'get away with it' . (English humour in the realms of a disppointing situation for speedway).... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, martinmauger said: Me or we too, in addition to the nearby Scunny we had plans to take in Sheffield, Belle Vue, maybe Redcar & Peterborough and possibly Wolves. Though Peterbrough soon became a 'prob not' due to the disabled parking issues; no iffs or buts sadly it would likely have been too far for my mate's dad to walk from the parking area to the stand, or at least the stadium section. One solution for you, Iris123, though would be to take your partner to Wittstock speedway for a birthday treat you would both 'just happen to enjoy'. Go on, you know you want to and you may just 'get away with it' . (English humour in the realms of a disppointing situation for speedway).... No chance. I have made that mistake already and taken her to a meeting. I doubt I would get that chance again, and certainly not on her birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Yeah you can't play the same card twice, won't work, oh well. Maybe next year though .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said: All negativity hides behind "realism". Cute soundbite but completely false. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said: All negativity hides behind "realism". No doubt we'll soon hear calls to give up on the 2021 season :-( Some tracks will have lost less money this year.Its the riders that are the biggest losers.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 7:14 PM, Fromafar said: Some tracks will have lost less money this year.Its the riders that are the biggest losers.IMO In this situation everyone is a loser and unless we see a vaccine within the next few weeks. we will all still be losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, East End Fan said: In this situation everyone is a loser and unless we see a vaccine within the next few weeks. we will all still be losers. Very much doubt a vaccine will be generally available in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 1:02 PM, Fromafar said: Very much doubt a vaccine will be generally available in a few weeks. TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, East End Fan said: TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. Personally can see why people would refuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Personally can see why people would refuse. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Why? Probably for the reasons as people refused to give their kids the MMR inoculation, I’ve been offered the flu jab numerous times and have always refused it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 hours ago, East End Fan said: TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. So it takes 7-8 years to develop a vaccine to prove theres no side effects etc and you think its OK for the Government to force people to be vaccinated with something not fully tested 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Why? Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. Edited August 9, 2020 by Fromafar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. Especially pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 8:41 PM, Fromafar said: Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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