RedRock18 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Chris Holder stayed down an extra season with the IOW before moving up to Poole. He seemed convinced that the extra experience, even in a league he had already mastered, was better for him. Very few riders master a league and are ready to move up in just one season. Jason Crump advised Chris to do another season at IOW before moving up Anyway, apologies for deviating, back to thread topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 17 hours ago, CottonOn said: What's wrong with 16 year old Palin riding in the 2nd division. 16-year-old Peter Collins, Chris Morton, Michael Lee, Kenny Carter, Andy Smith, are just a few riders I remember riding in the 1st division. Gordon Kennett, Dave Jessup, Martin Dugard. David Norris, from an Eastbourne perspective. Im sure we can name a few from our own clubs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, False dawn said: An interesting debate. A couple of us were having a similar discussion about the Thompsons recently. The defining argument was that they would probably be racing against the same riders next years as this. We all know that "going up" a year (or 2) early is worse than staying down a year too long. But these kids are ambitious and we should do everything to make their progress possible. I'll tell you this. Seeing Jordan and the Thompsons racing at Leicester on 23rd October certainly made me think they were all the real deal. Am I correct in thinking you have to be 16 to ride in the Championship ? If so, the Thompson twins aren't 16 until 22nd April, anyone signing them would mean having a late start to the season, by 22nd April this year Leicester had already ridden 8 meetings. Could anyone signing either of them run with guests until they are old enough ? I doubt that would be allowed. So presumably a team would have to sign another rider then replace when they were old enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 The Thompson twins case is an interesting one as others have said they don’t 16 until late April so which clubs sign them will have to go with other 3pt riders to start the season. Also both of the twins are very intelligent with one wanting to be a Vet at some point in his life. The family are keen for them to get good formal qualifications at school so ideally they were looking at doing NL only in 2020 until exams were over in June but with the future of that league in doubt this may not be an option. Both Joe & Dan are very skilful motorcyclists and can have a good future in Speedway and I know Tai is going to help them further later in the winter once he is back and is keen to get them out to Poland at Wroclaw practising once 16 to practice with the Wroclaw juniors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Gary Havelock was 16 y-o when he rode for Middlesbrough in 1985. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gringo said: Gary Havelock was 16 y-o when he rode for Middlesbrough in 1985. And doing his exams. Whilst riding for the "Tigers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gringo said: Gary Havelock was 16 y-o when he rode for Middlesbrough in 1985. How old was Kenny Carter when he rode for us at Newcastle. Must have been about 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: How old was Kenny Carter when he rode for us at Newcastle. Must have been about 16. 17 according to wiki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, mikebaker said: And doing his exams. Whilst riding for the "Tigers". And Happy 51st Birthday to Gary on Monday 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tsunami said: How old was Kenny Carter when he rode for us at Newcastle. Must have been about 16. Also what about my all time favourite especially at Newcastle JOE OWEN how old was he when he started at barrow I'm sure he was either 16 or 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, pienpeesman said: Also what about my all time favourite especially at Newcastle JOE OWEN how old was he when he started at barrow I'm sure he was either 16 or 17 16. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Darcy Ward not been mentioned yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 22 hours ago, DC2 said: It’s pretty alarming that a 15 year old lad who turns 16 next February and who has completed just one season in the NL has been signed for Scunthorpe next season? Is he old enough? Is he experienced enough? Will he lose confidence? Will he put other riders at risk? It’s crazy, isn’t it? Surely it’s at least a season too soon? How does his progress compare with Chris Holder, Tai Woffinden, Lewis Bridger and Drew Kemp? Shouldn’t riders complete at least two seasons in the NL? http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/news.php?extend.37681 Shut up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, squall said: Darcy Ward not been mentioned yet? Mark Loram(Hackney Kestrels). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said: Shut up Good point, well made. Quite the charmer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I remember a couple of riders back in the 70s. The National League as it was named then. Trevor Vincent. Rode underage. Used the name Trevor Charly. Remember him riding for Mildenhall, Weymouth and Stoke. Am sure that ex Weymouth and Hackney rider Sean Wilmott rode underage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Jason Crump(Poole) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyGround Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 5:36 AM, DC2 said: Possibly. But then again there’s older young riders who have found it too much: Jack Smith, Parkinson-Blackburn, Wajtknecht, Jacobs, Bailey, Knight, Thomas, Wood and Atkins. Something has gone wrong for these lads and I’d hate to see Palin get the stuffing knocked out of him and disappear. Is one year’s NL experience really enough? The only problem with the Championship (AKA 2nd. division) are the riders allowed to ride in it @ the top end of the teams. This will slow the natural development of young talented riders progressing & of course cost the teams £££££s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock18 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Fromafar said: Jason Crump(Poole) I remember JC (and Mark Lemon) racing post main meeting for Reserve League team or whatever it was calling itself. Apart from a few tape exclusions, he was clearly destined for greatness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Andy Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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