DC2 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) It’s pretty alarming that a 15 year old lad who turns 16 next February and who has completed just one season in the NL has been signed for Scunthorpe next season? Is he old enough? Is he experienced enough? Will he lose confidence? Will he put other riders at risk? It’s crazy, isn’t it? Surely it’s at least a season too soon? How does his progress compare with Chris Holder, Tai Woffinden, Lewis Bridger and Drew Kemp? Shouldn’t riders complete at least two seasons in the NL? http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/news.php?extend.37681 Edited November 1, 2019 by DC2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crescent girl Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Was Anders Rowe ready? Was Leon Flint ready? If they're good enough, they're old enough. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyOne Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 What's wrong with 16 year old Palin riding in the 2nd division. 16-year-old Peter Collins, Chris Morton, Michael Lee, Kenny Carter, Andy Smith, are just a few riders I remember riding in the 1st division. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Jordan has a higher NL average than Kyle Bickley, Connor Bailey, Danny Phillips, Jack Smith, Luke Harris, Drew Kemp, Ryan Kinsley, Jason Edwards, Joe Lawlor, Tom Perry and Connor Coles. I think he might be ok. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 hours ago, crescent girl said: Was Anders Rowe ready? Was Leon Flint ready? If they're good enough, they're old enough. Possibly. But then again there’s older young riders who have found it too much: Jack Smith, Parkinson-Blackburn, Wajtknecht, Jacobs, Bailey, Knight, Thomas, Wood and Atkins. Something has gone wrong for these lads and I’d hate to see Palin get the stuffing knocked out of him and disappear. Is one year’s NL experience really enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Palin is an amazing talent and I am a huge admirer of his, If Sheffield had remained in the Champ then i certainly wouldnt have objected to him signing for us. Agreed he is very young and only has 1 season of NL experience under is belt, however he has the talent, great backing and great family support. I expect Jordan will have a steady rise in the Champ however with these raw young talents you never know. All the best to young Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Possibly. But then again there’s older young riders who have found it too much: Jack Smith, Parkinson-Blackburn, Wajtknecht, Jacobs, Bailey, Knight, Thomas, Wood and Atkins. Something has gone wrong for these lads and I’d hate to see Palin get the stuffing knocked out of him and disappear. Is one year’s NL experience really enough? That has always been the case and will continue to happen, on the other hand, if you keep them protected too long they tend to stop at that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 7 hours ago, DC2 said: It’s pretty alarming that a 15 year old lad who turns 16 next February and who has completed just one season in the NL has been signed for Scunthorpe next season? Is he old enough? Is he experienced enough? Will he lose confidence? Will he put other riders at risk? It’s crazy, isn’t it? Surely it’s at least a season too soon? How does his progress compare with Chris Holder, Tai Woffinden, Lewis Bridger and Drew Kemp? Shouldn’t riders complete at least two seasons in the NL? http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/news.php?extend.37681 complete twaddle. If you're good enough, you're old enough. NDL likely to reduce is quality and quantity, he could double down anyway, let him race older more experienced riders and he will learn quicker. Didn't do Peter Collins and Michael Lee any harm did it?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Bickley, Flint, Smith and maybe even Kemp last season proved that the PL is not an easy league. I'd imagine, unless Palin is something special, then he'll probably average around 3/4 which isn't too bad. Just underlines how good Woffinden was to do what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 at least hes signed for a throttle track, gives him a shout of achieving a 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, JCookie said: Bickley, Flint, Smith and maybe even Kemp last season proved that the PL is not an easy league. I'd imagine, unless Palin is something special, then he'll probably average around 3/4 which isn't too bad. Just underlines how good Woffinden was to do what he did. Not to mention what a wasted talent Lewis Bridger was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Jordan attained a CMA of 9.45 re his league matches ... a superb performance for a 15 year old. Going into the Championship at reserve is a must... hopefully Godfrey will put a no pressure tag on him and let him progress at his own pace. A talented young lad who seems very level headed to me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Clearly Scunthorpe seem to think so, Palin needs to take his career forward and moving into the Championship will do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, JCookie said: Bickley, Flint, Smith and maybe even Kemp last season proved that the PL is not an easy league. I'd imagine, unless Palin is something special, then he'll probably average around 3/4 which isn't too bad. Just underlines how good Woffinden was to do what he did. I can remember only too well when Woffinden burst on to the scene. I can remember watching him in second halves at Sheffield and you could see then that this kid was going to be something special. At a very young age Tai was absolutely rinsing opposition riders with relative ease. Not to mention his PL riders championship victory in 08... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 WIth The amount of polish talent coming through at the moment I think we need to welcome kids who are willing to take a risk. If he’s investing heavily over the winter will want to be riding 2 leagues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Being around the junior scene for many years now with my own produced riders, I have watched his progress and he is the real deal. He has progressed very steadily with great support from his whole family. He is not dirty, he is not a throttle basher, but he is a very technical astute rider who has great confidence and style. Of the recent great successes emanating from the junior scene and the NL, Jordan is the best, and is now being pushed by the Thompson twins, who will make great progress next year. My protege Archie Freeman is next, and next year we have hopes that he will follow in the same direction that Jordan has. The junior scene is looking very good and healthy, but we need a National League to drop into for more competition to take them to the next step, the Champiomsship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Having watched JP, week in week out at amateur meetings, practice sessions, he's certainly mastered the Scunthorpe track, and I think he will be okay at home, Im not too sure on his experience on other Championship tracks, but with hopefully a older, more experienced reserve to help him, he should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 An interesting debate. A couple of us were having a similar discussion about the Thompsons recently. The defining argument was that they would probably be racing against the same riders next years as this. We all know that "going up" a year (or 2) early is worse than staying down a year too long. But these kids are ambitious and we should do everything to make their progress possible. I'll tell you this. Seeing Jordan and the Thompsons racing at Leicester on 23rd October certainly made me think they were all the real deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Chris Holder stayed down an extra season with the IOW before moving up to Poole. He seemed convinced that the extra experience, even in a league he had already mastered, was better for him. Very few riders master a league and are ready to move up in just one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Yeah he is ready like I said a few weeks back that he'll be well capable of keeping the 2 point average & could possibly put a point on around the EWR & a half a point away at some not all tracks.. the lad had a great family behind him & also a good mentor in Wayne carter.. definitely 1 for the future as will young Archie Freeman & Danny Smith also Ben trigger & apologies if I have forgot to mention more but the future is looking good for GB SPEEDWAY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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