moomin man 76 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 13 hours ago, Fromafar said: It is the worst line up ever. Given the circumstances, it is difficult to see how they could have put a different system in place whilst maintaining fairness to riders across the world. Yes there are a number of riders in the field, who would never have made it to a GP Challenge, but I have less objection to those being there than the likes of Fricke and Zagar, who are already in the GP system. To be honest, I'm pretty shocked that Motorcycling Australia could not/would not find another Aussie who wanted to do the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, moomin man 76 said: Given the circumstances, it is difficult to see how they could have put a different system in place whilst maintaining fairness to riders across the world. Yes there are a number of riders in the field, who would never have made it to a GP Challenge, but I have less objection to those being there than the likes of Fricke and Zagar, who are already in the GP system. To be honest, I'm pretty shocked that Motorcycling Australia could not/would not find another Aussie who wanted to do the meeting. Agree regarding Fricke and Zagar, also can’t believe KK as Poland’s rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, moomin man 76 said: Given the circumstances, it is difficult to see how they could have put a different system in place whilst maintaining fairness to riders across the world. Yes there are a number of riders in the field, who would never have made it to a GP Challenge, but I have less objection to those being there than the likes of Fricke and Zagar, who are already in the GP system. To be honest, I'm pretty shocked that Motorcycling Australia could not/would not find another Aussie who wanted to do the meeting. Why shouldn`t Fricke be in it just because he`s in the GP`s ?? he unless there is a miracle won`t finish in the GP top 6 so could be out on his ear. This gives him a chance to be back in 2021(same applies to Zagar- who certainly has a better chance of a top 6 spot although un-likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Anyone who thinks Adam Ellis has peaked needs a medical check! Constant and consistent improver, already better rider than Worralls, Cook has great ability but seems to have vanished off media, Charles Wright probably deserved spot but other than that Adam surely the next in line. A few names in there would struggle to be 2nd string in Championship - indeed Broc Nichol has struggled to be 2nd string in CL 5.16 average!!! (identical to Simon Lambert and Kyle Newman - they must be aggrieved) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Why shouldn`t Fricke be in it just because he`s in the GP`s ?? he unless there is a miracle won`t finish in the GP top 6 so could be out on his ear. This gives him a chance to be back in 2021(same applies to Zagar- who certainly has a better chance of a top 6 spot although un-likely). Given the circumstances would it not have been better to scrap the challenge this year as all the riders are in same position as Fricke and go with same riders next year.There are a number of riders not being given a fair chance of qualifying this year with challenge being a straight Final Edited August 18, 2020 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Given the circumstances would it not have been better to scrap the challenge this year as all the riders are in same position as Fricke and go with same riders next year.There are a number of riders not being given a fair chance of qualifying this year with challenge being a straight Final Yes that would have been better, however with the new rule that the SEC champion gets in from this year i suppose they felt they had to try and include it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Why shouldn`t Fricke be in it just because he`s in the GP`s ?? he unless there is a miracle won`t finish in the GP top 6 so could be out on his ear. This gives him a chance to be back in 2021(same applies to Zagar- who certainly has a better chance of a top 6 spot although un-likely). I wouldn't have them there as it effectively gives them two opportunities to do the business on the track (as well as the possibility of a wild card), whereas others only have one. Less so with Slovenia, but with Australia, there is no shortage of riders who could have ridden in the Challenge. I don't have anything against either rider, but I am hoping that neither finish in the top three of the Challenge, as they still have the chance to earn their place on track in the GP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Agree regarding Fricke and Zagar, also can’t believe KK as Poland’s rep. I was staggered that KK was Poland's representative, as there are plenty of other Poles, who warrant a place more than he does. However, I believe the Polish Federation honoured their promise to give him the place, on the basis of winning the Polish Golden Helmet last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Yes that would have been better, however with the new rule that the SEC champion gets in from this year i suppose they felt they had to try and include it. They could just have given the SEC champ the Wildcard slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC71 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Fromafar said: Given the circumstances would it not have been better to scrap the challenge this year as all the riders are in same position as Fricke and go with same riders next year.There are a number of riders not being given a fair chance of qualifying this year with challenge being a straight Final ......or even, if they felt compelled to have it, stage it after the GPs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, moomin man 76 said: I wouldn't have them there as it effectively gives them two opportunities to do the business on the track (as well as the possibility of a wild card), whereas others only have one. Less so with Slovenia, but with Australia, there is no shortage of riders who could have ridden in the Challenge. I don't have anything against either rider, but I am hoping that neither finish in the top three of the Challenge, as they still have the chance to earn their place on track in the GP's. think it was either the Polish Final or the Golden helmet 2019 that decided this years gp qualifiers, euro seeds etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, moomin man 76 said: I was staggered that KK was Poland's representative, as there are plenty of other Poles, who warrant a place more than he does. However, I believe the Polish Federation honoured their promise to give him the place, on the basis of winning the Polish Golden Helmet last year. Well Polish speedway isn't just about which riders is the most suitable due to merit but there is also allot of politics involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) He won his right to be the polish representative... Edited August 18, 2020 by allthegearbutnaeidea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) On 8/17/2020 at 5:18 PM, racers and royals said: I have also been told by someone who should know that the meeting will also be livestreamed. ESS play might live stream it. Not seeing any info on the website though. Edited August 18, 2020 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: ESS play might live stream it. Not seeing any info on the website though. I sensed from the person who told me that as Eleven Sport are showing in Poland- it will be live streamed so that the rest can watch it. Bit like onesport did with the World U 21 championship when Eleven showed the rounds in Poland and we had the meetings streamed via you tube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 9:38 AM, racers and royals said: Is Lebedevs likely to be fit to ride ? Jevgenij Kostigovs replacing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 19 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said: Jevgenij Kostigovs replacing him. Please let Sam Ermolenko be doing the commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) Racecard for Saturday https://www.dropbox.com/sh/im9exytxr0r5f07/AACZJ0G3TAOpOLggiw61m1kha?dl=0&fbclid=IwAR1u8ChaaAfqXr1Eptaj9bEB5VSrVSFzgcdefmQkuM9WuYaTMI1FRwXuLVg or Edited August 20, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 ESS play Sweden have announced they are showing the challenge for a price of 9,9Euro(around £9) sign up here https://en.elitspeedway.com/artikel/4dd7ake2k-21mi1/watch-the-speedway-gp-challenge-live-on-ess-play So we know that Eleven Sport Poland are showing live( links will be available)- all we don`t know yet is how GB viewers can watch the meeting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Heat 1 looks like the decider.4 top riders IMo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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