geoff100 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 In the good old days how close were Stoke and Crewe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Does anything happen on the centre green at Owlerton? The Sheffield track always strikes me as ridiculously narrow especially given how fast it is. It needs widening to bring it into line with Belle Vue and nearly all European tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 12:16 PM, keepturningleft said: Does anything happen on the centre green at Owlerton? The Sheffield track always strikes me as ridiculously narrow especially given how fast it is. It needs widening to bring it into line with Belle Vue and nearly all European tracks. Expand Agree with this. It's a multi use facility so I'd be pretty certain that the centre green is used for something although I wouldn't know what. Perhaps someone with a little more knowledge could answer. You are right about the track though, it's something I've been arguing for a long time. It needs some banking and the track widening throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 9:11 AM, geoff100 said: In the good old days how close were Stoke and Crewe? Expand NSS to Loomer Rd 45.9 via the M6, Owlerton to Loomer Rd 49.6. Owlerton to Earle Street 70.8, NSS to Earle Street 40.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 12:16 PM, keepturningleft said: Does anything happen on the centre green at Owlerton? The Sheffield track always strikes me as ridiculously narrow especially given how fast it is. It needs widening to bring it into line with Belle Vue and nearly all European tracks. Expand Has been used for rugby league but the team were not keen as the pitch too narrow. Sheffield Eagles now have a different stadium to use so unlikely to go back. Believe it was once used by the local American football team and Sheffield FC football team. Not sure what they are doing now. Was regularly used by stock car drivers, despite being told regularly not to do so. I seem to recall that Neil Machin once wanted to cut in to the centre green to make the track wider, but was refused permission by stadium owners. Perhaps someone could confirm or deny this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 12:16 PM, keepturningleft said: Does anything happen on the centre green at Owlerton? Expand greyhound toilet from what i remember! agree about the track though, made wider could get it back to being one of the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I'm sure I remember something from years ago which concluded that Owlerton didn't meet requirements to hold international meetings because of the narrowness of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendover Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:25 PM, keepturningleft said: I'm sure I remember something from years ago which concluded that Owlerton didn't meet requirements to hold international meetings because of the narrowness of the track. Expand Indeed, if you noted a post from RS50 on page 7. He alludes to Neil Machin being refused permission by the stadium owners to cut into the centre green. Although I always thought it was Neil Machin who refused to alter the track citing its uniqueness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 2:22 PM, RS50 said: Has been used for rugby league but the team were not keen as the pitch too narrow. Sheffield Eagles now have a different stadium to use so unlikely to go back. Believe it was once used by the local American football team and Sheffield FC football team. Not sure what they are doing now. Was regularly used by stock car drivers, despite being told regularly not to do so. I seem to recall that Neil Machin once wanted to cut in to the centre green to make the track wider, but was refused permission by stadium owners. Perhaps someone could confirm or deny this? Expand Sheffield F.C have been playing at the Coach and Horses pub in Dronfield for nearly 20 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingIvan Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Can remember Test Matches in 60s, 70s and 80s. Under Neil Machins rein at Owlerton there was a World Team Cup meeting, A World under 21 and within last few years a Test Match between England and Australia. Make the Track wider makes it smaller. Cant move the dog track over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendover Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I agree, can only assume at one point during his tenure regulations were changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 1:57 PM, Col said: NSS to Loomer Rd 45.9 via the M6, Owlerton to Loomer Rd 49.6. Owlerton to Earle Street 70.8, NSS to Earle Street 40.3 Expand Lol i ment how close were stoke and crewe together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 9:22 PM, geoff100 said: Lol i ment how close were stoke and crewe together Expand 12 miles. Crewe, then under the promotion of Len Silver, were obviously not happy about Stoke opening in 1973. It wasn't many years before they folded. It wasn't as close as Cradley and Wolves - 9 miles, or White City-Wimbledon, 8 miles, or West Ham - Hackney, 5 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:44 PM, bendover said: Indeed, if you noted a post from RS50 on page 7. He alludes to Neil Machin being refused permission by the stadium owners to cut into the centre green. Although I always thought it was Neil Machin who refused to alter the track citing its uniqueness... Expand Hi, I could be wrong about Machin wanting to cut in to centre green. Heard something a long time ago, memory could be playing tricks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 10:58 PM, RobMcCaffery said: It wasn't as close as Cradley and Wolves - 9 miles, or White City-Wimbledon, 8 miles, or West Ham - Hackney, 5 miles. Expand I doubt it is 9 miles from Dudley Wood to Monmore, just seems allot longer because there isn't a decent road between them and would probably take half an hour or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 11:11 AM, Col said: I doubt it is 9 miles from Dudley Wood to Monmore, just seems allot longer because there isn't a decent road between them and would probably take half an hour or more. Expand Source: Google Maps. They tend to be pretty accurate. Typical BSF - state a fact from a reliable source and still have to fend them off. Anyway geoff100 - I tried to help. More fool me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:53 PM, KingIvan said: Can remember Test Matches in 60s, 70s and 80s. Under Neil Machins rein at Owlerton there was a World Team Cup meeting, A World under 21 and within last few years a Test Match between England and Australia. Make the Track wider makes it smaller. Cant move the dog track over. Expand Was it a World Cup meeting when Mark Loram tangled up with the air fence when they had it on the home straight, ? I remember it being on Sky on a Sunday afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Not a airfence,as there wasn't one in place at the time.It was the WTC round and it rained and instead of stopping the meeting they carried on and Mark crashed due to poor vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 9:07 PM, Andrew said: Not a airfence,as there wasn't one in place at the time.It was the WTC round and it rained and instead of stopping the meeting they carried on and Mark crashed due to poor vision. Expand Pretty sure it was an airfence round the entire track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 10:11 PM, squall said: Pretty sure it was an airfence round the entire track. Expand That's my recollection of it , the idea of the air fences on the straights didn't last long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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