IronScorpion Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, 89buttons said: Tbh I think Jake will be back with Ipswich, he’s said he wants to ride Ipswich again next year and years to come and the club have tweeted saying how good he’s been this season and unsubtly hinted with emojis they want him back - plus all the fans want him back, can’t see any team permutation at Ipswich not including him I would think most riders who have improved at a certain track, would stay their the following year(Finances from decent points haul). They can then adapt to the trickier tracks during the season. If they then adapt well then a move the following season could be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, 4thbender said: Don't think he was treated badly. His career will have benefited greatly from the input of Steady and the promoters stuck with him long after his average made him a points liability. He was simply a victim of the average points rules which surround speedway. How could his average have been a points liability when he came in on a 2!! The fact it went immediately to nearly 5 just meant down to him Sheffield could effectively build the rest of the team to be 3 points over the limit Without him on a 2 the team overall wouldve been weaker and other riders brought in wouldn't have been accommodated. His 'reward' for those others still not being able to out strip his performances in the 1-5 despite them being at reserve was to be dropped instead of them Yes a victim of the points limit system but there were other choices and IMO he should remember that should Sheffield make him an offer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Bradford Ace said: Best facilities in the country for me... What, with almost half the stadium off limits? Says it all about today's speedway venues. Be much better if Tigers could reopen the back straight terrace at Owlerton. Will the first bend be available to standing spectators next season or will the rebuild mean it's behind glass only? Edited October 23, 2019 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Piotr Pyszny said: What, with almost half the stadium off limits? Says it all about today's speedway venues. Be much better if Tigers could reopen the back straight terrace at Owlerton. Will the first bend be available to standing spectators next season or will the rebuild mean it's behind glass only? glass only i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 9:25 AM, DC2 said: Kemp’s not ready for the PL. And I don’t think he achieved the necessary 4.8 average (PL 3 minimum x 1.6 conversion) to come up. Edit: He averaged 3.58 in the CL. surely would be with the Witches ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Greg said: surely would be with the Witches ? Not if this season’s minimum average applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Moranboys said: glass only i believe Bah. Always been my viewing location of choice (well, until I stopped attending entirely). Biggest problem with Owlerton is lack of elevation (certainly if you want to be outside rather than behind glass). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Not if this season’s minimum average applies. The reg was that the rider at some point had to have achieved an average in excess of 4.50 in the Championship not that they had to be above that when signing. The PL min was then 3 even if the conversion put the rider below that Drew did that and therefore would qualify if he and a club thought it right (assuming the regs are not changed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The reg was that the rider at some point had to have achieved an average in excess of 4.50 in the Championship not that they had to be above that when signing. The PL min was then 3 even if the conversion put the rider below that Drew did that and therefore would qualify if he and a club thought it right (assuming the regs are not changed) Good point, thanks. Yes, Drew achieved a CL average above 5 early in the season so I guess he could now come in on the 3 minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 23 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: How could his average have been a points liability when he came in on a 2!! The fact it went immediately to nearly 5 just meant down to him Sheffield could effectively build the rest of the team to be 3 points over the limit Without him on a 2 the team overall wouldve been weaker and other riders brought in wouldn't have been accommodated. His 'reward' for those others still not being able to out strip his performances in the 1-5 despite them being at reserve was to be dropped instead of them Yes a victim of the points limit system but there were other choices and IMO he should remember that should Sheffield make him an offer Quite simple really: the dramatic uplift in his points average meant that almost as soon as the season started he went into the main body of the team, riding mainly at no. 2. In this position he was clearly out of his depth, picking up far too many fourth places and wrecking his confidence. Had the lad stayed at reserve I would predict he would have come much closer to maintaining his ridiculously overblown 4+ average. A classic case of a talented young rider being the victim of his own success. Nevertheless the promotion stuck with him and I don't think they can be accused of not giving the youngster a fair crack of the whip. Only when the position became dire and the team were struggling for a couple of match wins at the end of the season in the vain hope of reaching the top four did they dispense with his services. Even then I'm led to believe the parting was on the very best of terms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Piotr Pyszny said: Bah. Always been my viewing location of choice (well, until I stopped attending entirely). Biggest problem with Owlerton is lack of elevation (certainly if you want to be outside rather than behind glass). theres only the home straight with low elevation.3rd/4th bend is best view IMO, great view of all the track and enough elevation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 just a thought.will the greyhounds still be running on a thursday afternoon? if this is still the case won't this be a problem again as it affected the speedway this year with queues of people waiting to gain admission only to be held up or will the start time have to be changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Honest question - Can Sheffield also run on Mondays for TV meetings? Assuming of course that Mondays are the chosen day for Eurosport?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyTalk Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Honest question - Can Sheffield also run on Mondays for TV meetings? Assuming of course that Mondays are the chosen day for Eurosport?! They have ridden at Owlerton on Monday's in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Think its very likely there will be at least 3 Poole riders from 2019 in next years Sheffield team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Think its very likely there will be at least 3 Poole riders from 2019 in next years Sheffield team. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Think its very likely there will be at least 3 Poole riders from 2019 in next years Sheffield team. Let’s hope it’s not Wells, THJ and Jack Holder, otherwise, it might be another 30 years before we see Sheffield again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Vaculik Grajczonek Wright Howarth Allen Douglas Kennedy Might not be the best on paper, but would be bloody entertaining to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Top 3 of both holders and josh g. Add howarth and nicol and then fit in 2 others with what's left Bellego and berge maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Really? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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