Sheffield 2020

[Sidney the robin]

5 hours ago, phillipsr said:

He had a poor year yes but hes still ahead of one track Auty. 

Are you sure what about Belle Vue do you think he is that far ahead of him  there I think not. Auty would pick him off there 6 times out of 10. Look I like Auty and am mega biase but  you are an embarrassment you hate him use your brain WELLS really!!!!!

Edited November 28, 2019 by Sidney the robin

[Sidney the robin]

5 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

One decent match that I can remember sid. As has been said his away form in the second division is modest at best, I think that’s what puts Premiership clubs off, along with his complete lack of gating ability. 

Well saying that he in a last month of riding for you did more in effort and points than some of your team .And to be honest Baggy that is what you are used to second best but you except it fair play you must be a loyal supporter.

[Bagpuss]

36 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Well saying that he in a last month of riding for you did more in effort and points than some of your team .And to be honest Baggy that is what you are used to second best but you except it fair play you must be a loyal supporter.

Not really sure what you are running on about Sidney so we’ll leave that one there. 

[Sidney the robin]

Just now, Bagpuss said:

Not really sure what you are running on about Sidney so we’ll leave that one there. 

I think you do very much so, but we will leave it at that Baggy .

[spin king junior]

1 hour ago, 89buttons said:

Berge is toilet, he’s always been toilet 

3,0,0,1,0 is his usual, auty may not be the best rider but he’s been a consistent 7.5-8.5 rider in second tier for 8+ years now berge has never shown anything like that kind of consistency

I think those who've seen him round Owlerton would understand. He just seems to have a really knack for riding Owlerton.

 

With Auty, he's just never particularly good round our place over last few seasons. Whether that's down to how the tracks preprared,  machinery ect I don't honestly know. But all I can say is from the perspective of a Sheffield fan having watched Auty and Berge round our place I would 100% have Dimi over Auty.

[Charlieboy]

If the averages fit Dimi would be first choice reserve round owlerton. When he rode with Steady he was well in front so he would be a no brainer ,where as away from home him and Todd may be weak,so we either go for top heavy at home and risk the away score or find a rider who can ride any track.Not sure what points we've got left but Lawson and Dimi would make us very strong at home or possibly Bellego and Dimi ?

[4thbender]

1 hour ago, Charlieboy said:

If the averages fit Dimi would be first choice reserve round owlerton. When he rode with Steady he was well in front so he would be a no brainer ,where as away from home him and Todd may be weak,so we either go for top heavy at home and risk the away score or find a rider who can ride any track.Not sure what points we've got left but Lawson and Dimi would make us very strong at home or possibly Bellego and Dimi ?

That's a point well made. When Dimitri rode as no.2 to Stead he had the habit of beating him quite consistently at Sheffield, making Stead the one claiming the bonus point (and not many riders can claim to have achieved that feat!)

[89buttons]

9 hours ago, spin king junior said:

I think those who've seen him round Owlerton would understand. He just seems to have a really knack for riding Owlerton.

 

With Auty, he's just never particularly good round our place over last few seasons. Whether that's down to how the tracks preprared,  machinery ect I don't honestly know. But all I can say is from the perspective of a Sheffield fan having watched Auty and Berge round our place I would 100% have Dimi over Auty.

That’s fair, if berge is better on your home track then makes sense you ride half your meetings there, ironically I have seen berge ride owlerton once and he had a poor meeting that night!

still maintain that berge may be talented but has never reached the same levels of consistency as josh, he was signed at Belle Vue with everyone expecting him to score well there and didn’t really do it

[phillipsr]

11 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Are you sure what about Belle Vue do you think he is that far ahead of him  there I think not. Auty would pick him off there 6 times out of 10. Look I like Auty and am mega biase but  you are an embarrassment you hate him use your brain WELLS really!!!!!

At Sheffield yes Wells.. beats him more often than not and away from Sheffield theres no difference 

[phillipsr]

12 hours ago, 89buttons said:

Berge is toilet, he’s always been toilet 

3,0,0,1,0 is his usual, auty may not be the best rider but he’s been a consistent 7.5-8.5 rider in second tier for 8+ years now berge has never shown anything like that kind of consistency

Was talking about Wells... Berge at Sheffield is better than Auty 

[89buttons]

6 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

Was talking about Wells... Berge at Sheffield is better than Auty 

Apologies thought you were comparing berge to auty.

for what it’s worth don’t think there’s a lot of difference in wells and auty level tbh

[ShyTalk]

What average does Kurtz come in at?

[The Third Man]

21 minutes ago, ShyTalk said:

What average does Kurtz come in at?

Four

 

[stevebrum]

2 hours ago, 89buttons said:

Apologies thought you were comparing berge to auty.

for what it’s worth don’t think there’s a lot of difference in wells and auty level tbh

Auty has been nowhere near the standard of Wells so a fair difference.

[Sidney the robin]

2 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Auty has been nowhere near the standard of Wells so a fair difference.

Really , Wells is a rider who was decent at the homer Wolves venue but NOW he Is not a prem rider.My take was did i think Auty and certainly Vissing NOW a better bet than Wells/T.Kurtz./ Berge.Berge is talented bloody frustrating and he will be fine at Owlerton but away Berge/Kurtz or maybe Wells won't scare to many.

[yorkshiretyke]

34 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Really , Wells is a rider who was decent at the homer Wolves venue but NOW he Is not a prem rider.My take was did i think Auty and certainly Vissing NOW a better bet than Wells/T.Kurtz./ Berge.Berge is talented bloody frustrating and he will be fine at Owlerton but away Berge/Kurtz or maybe Wells won't scare to many.

The trouble with Auty is; and always has been his gating. He can get away with it in the Championship to a degree but in the Premiership; 9 times out of 10 he will be last into the first bend leaving him too much to do. 

Berge is the best of the mentioned riders at Owlerton by a fair distance, but probably the worst away. With the exception of last season, Wells is the most consistant on all types of tracks.

Lots of options for the final 2, wonder if someone not mentioned yet may get 1 of them.

Is Kurtz a 4 or 3.39? Seems to be an uncertainty of the averages of some riders.

[Sidney the robin]

2 minutes ago, yorkshiretyke said:

The trouble with Auty is; and always has been his gating. He can get away with it in the Championship to a degree but in the Premiership; 9 times out of 10 he will be last into the first bend leaving him too much to do. 

Berge is the best of the mentioned riders at Owlerton by a fair distance, but probably the worst away. With the exception of last season, Wells is the most consistant on all types of tracks.

Lots of options for the final 2, wonder if someone not mentioned yet may get 1 of them.

Is Kurtz a 4 or 3.39? Seems to be an uncertainty of the averages of some riders.

Totally agree Auty his Achilles heel has  always been his atrocious gating but what i see of Wells last year in the Prem he looked slow.Even away as an example only an example at Swindon, Perks, Vissing/ Rowe whoever ??? would i be worried about Berge/Wells/T.Kurtz  no. Sheffield i have always liked them going back to the valentine,Wilson,Paulson days great club great track after Swindon they are my next team in the prem

[theblueboy]

1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

Really , Wells is a rider who was decent at the homer Wolves venue but NOW he Is not a prem rider.My take was did i think Auty and certainly Vissing NOW a better bet than Wells/T.Kurtz./ Berge.Berge is talented bloody frustrating and he will be fine at Owlerton but away Berge/Kurtz or maybe Wells won't scare to many.

Sid, I do remember you once telling me and everybody on this forum that Auty was a better rider than Howarth!

Wells, has no doubt gone backwards but, in general, he used to be competitive as a Premiership second string and at Swindon would pop out and win the odd race. The same cannot be said of Auty.

I’m not sure why you are always in Auty’s corner. Wells has slipped, most definitely, however, he still turned in a match winning performance from reserve against Swindon at Awalton not so long back.

Auty has never, ever done anything like that at Premiership level. I’d even have Stevie Wonder at reserve instead of Auty.

[Sidney the robin]

37 minutes ago, theblueboy said:

Sid, I do remember you once telling me and everybody on this forum that Auty was a better rider than Howarth!

Wells, has no doubt gone backwards but, in general, he used to be competitive as a Premiership second string and at Swindon would pop out and win the odd race. The same cannot be said of Auty.

I’m not sure why you are always in Auty’s corner. Wells has slipped, most definitely, however, he still turned in a match winning performance from reserve against Swindon at Awalton not so long back.

Auty has never, ever done anything like that at Premiership level. I’d even have Stevie Wonder at reserve instead of Auty.

Birmingham the Year they kept the same side were terrific they should of been champions Auty did well that year or was he rubbish? Wells when i saw him in 2019  was atrocious slow god slow how anyone on any average now would consider him good luck.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2019 by Sidney the robin

[Sidney the robin]

44 minutes ago, theblueboy said:

Sid, I do remember you once telling me and everybody on this forum that Auty was a better rider than Howarth!

Wells, has no doubt gone backwards but, in general, he used to be competitive as a Premiership second string and at Swindon would pop out and win the odd race. The same cannot be said of Auty.

I’m not sure why you are always in Auty’s corner. Wells has slipped, most definitely, however, he still turned in a match winning performance from reserve against Swindon at Awalton not so long back.

Auty has never, ever done anything like that at Premiership level. I’d even have Stevie Wonder at reserve instead of Auty.

How many British Finals has Howarth made against Auty ? don't forget Auty missed a couple? through injury.