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3 hours ago, Booey boy said:

You get BT free with Virgin

 

2 hours ago, Baldyman said:

, Get rid of sky get virgin, problem sorted 

You can get sky practically where ever you live but virgin is only available in certain areas,  Virgin have been saying for years they will be expanding there places to view but it seems its a long long wait. 

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Plusnet tv is cheap way to get eurosport think this deal with Eurosport will be good, especially the tie up with quest

Eurosport owns a wide range of rights across many sports but generally does not bid for premium priced rights such as those to major football leagues. However, in 2015 it was awarded rights to broadcast the Olympic Games from 2018 for most of Europe and 2022 for the UK and France in a deal worth €1.3 billion (£922 million).[4] It transmits much of the same footage across many markets, using unseen commentators rather than on-screen presenters so that the same visual feed may be broadcast in multiple languages while holding down production costs.

Eurosport has also expanded its deal with The All England Club to show all the Wimbledon matches live in 16 additional countries. It is a 3-year deal that includes exclusive TV and digital rights. This expands their tennis portfolio to show all four Grand Slams.[5]

The network of channels are available in 54 countries, in 20 different languages, providing viewers with European and international sporting events. Eurosport first launched on European satellites on 5 February 1989. In the 1990s, Eurosport timeshared with The Quantum Channel.

In February 2017, Discovery launched the channel in India, branded as DSport. The channel was made available on various platforms in both SD and HD feeds.[6]

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so how many meetings will there be it says 18 rounds I presume that is 18 meetings . so if that's the case it will mean the same as last season and 6 of those was taken up by play offs .so how many championship meetings will we get from the 12 left zero I would say . can anyone work it out different than that ?

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I think too much is read into who actually provides the coverage and more should be considered about what they actually get to show..

Sky, BT, and Eurosport are not 'Speedway's saviours', they are just TV companies showing the sport..

Their production capability might add weight to the racing or it might not, however..

If the racing isn't up to any great entertainment standard (as we sadly see most weeks in the UK meetings), then it doesn't matter who shows it nor how great their presentation and production skills are..

If what you are watching doesn't maintain your interest, then it doesnt matter if it's 'free to air' or not, and that can never be a positive for the sport. 

In fact it could work very much the other way and disconnect any potential new fans, or ex fans who may think about returning, completely..

Doesn't matter who shows the sport if it doesn't deliver on the track...

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1 minute ago, mikebv said:

I think too much is read into who actually provides the coverage and more should be considered about what they actually get to show..

Sky, BT, and Eurosport are not 'Speedway's saviours', they are just TV companies showing the sport..

Their production capability might add weight to the racing or it might not, however..

If the racing isn't up to any great entertainment standard (as we sadly see most weeks in the UK meetings), then it doesn't matter who shows it nor how great their presentation and production skills are..

If what you are watching doesn't maintain your interest, then it doesnt matter if it's 'free to air' or not, and that can never be a positive for the sport. 

In fact it could work very much the other way and disconnect any potential new fans, or ex fans who may think about returning, completely..

Doesn't matter who shows the sport if it doesn't deliver on the track...

Spot on Mike

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Eurosport dont pay for the best domestic super bike series in the World, it offers them fantastic coverage and they cover their production costs.

British Speedway is a time filler nothing more nothing less so wont be paying up any money for it.

However clubs and riders should be able to sell to sponsors better as it's at least a long term deal and the audience is potentially bigger if it can tap into the other audiences from the other sports they offer

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As I mentioned elsewhere, despite Eurosport being available to far more viewers in the UK than BT Sports the reality is that far more watch BT than Eurosport.. Here are the figures for September from BARB. The numbers relate to what percentage of TV viewers' total viewing in September were watching the service in the month. BBC1 for example gets 20%

Eurosport    0.17%

BT Sport       0.58%

So the likelihood of the viewing figures rising in the UK is small, despite the service now being cheaper to the speedway viewer.

It's only when Quest is counted that the potential for an increase is there. Quest gets 0.91  - despite being on Freeview its lead over BT is not that significant.

Where Eurosport does offer expansion is in the overseas market but when reading the publicity for this deal the key point is to read through the hype. Hopefully we will get increased figures, all 18 meetings live, in full and on the set dates and times. Experience suggests otherwise. 

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I was under the impression Eurosport wanted at least 10 teams in the league to warrant a tv deal, the Poole wanting to drop down and the supposed 3 coming up there’s still 1 short, I guess it doesn’t really matter now they have done the deal but I can only see maybe 8 teams max in the prem next season 

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24 minutes ago, Gasser90 said:

I was under the impression Eurosport wanted at least 10 teams in the league to warrant a tv deal, the Poole wanting to drop down and the supposed 3 coming up there’s still 1 short, I guess it doesn’t really matter now they have done the deal but I can only see maybe 8 teams max in the prem next season 

Would be 10 as Glasgow have stated they want to move up as well.

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If there are three more teams next year the points limit might have to be 40!

Eight teams and 42.5 seems about right without stretching the quality of rider.

Look at Ellis Perks. Lauded as a great trier in the PL this year but still managed only a 3.57 PL average despite being 6.4 in the CL.

And this year we had the good sense to require a 3 point minimum achieved average for the PL, so on a 1.6 multiplier that will quite rightly exclude CL riders below 4.8.

There’s no way the likes of Anders Rowe (CL 4.38) should be exposed to the PL yet. He’d lose confidence like Jack Smith last year.

 

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22 hours ago, Baldyman said:

, Get rid of sky get virgin, problem sorted 

I assume I can only get Virgin if my road has been cabled by them? In my case they haven't, and as I live in a village, its highly unlikely they ever will be. I do get BT sport half price as I have BT broadband, but as others have said, its an expensive way to watch the GP's.

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1 hour ago, Bunce said:

I assume I can only get Virgin if my road has been cabled by them? In my case they haven't, and as I live in a village, its highly unlikely they ever will be. I do get BT sport half price as I have BT broadband, but as others have said, its an expensive way to watch the GP's.

All I know is I have virgin, and have with it bt sport, eurosport and sky sports, its also got the f1 channel,and the one that shows the Swedish, and all cheaper than sky sports on its own. 

And I think you are right about the road being dug up bit. 

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On 10/21/2019 at 3:44 PM, hyabb17 said:

Yes they do, spoke with Natalie Quirk after the meeting Thursday. 

I hope Natalie and Gang cover the Eurosport meetings too, because the guy that currently commentates along with Sam Ermolenko is awful.  

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20 hours ago, scoobydoo said:

 

You can get sky practically where ever you live but virgin is only available in certain areas,  Virgin have been saying for years they will be expanding there places to view but it seems its a long long wait. 

Very true. Huge Virgin office half a mile from where I live but no plans to make it available here.

Easier said than done to 'get Virgin'.

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1 hour ago, Mimmo said:

I hope Natalie and Gang cover the Eurosport meetings too, because the guy that currently commentates along with Sam Ermolenko is awful.  

Sorry Mike but can’t agree with you at all -Dave Rowe in my opinion is a top commentator, who knows Speedway inside out and never misses anything happening on track and because he uses Kandysoft software is always on top of permutations,qualification etc. I have to say that Nigel Pearson and Kelvin Tatum along with Dave Goddard all do a great job- we only have to think back to Jack Burnicle  to realise that !!!

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Burnicle made a fatal error right from the start. "Hello, it's Jack here!". That presumed firstly that we were all viewers of the other motorcycle sports he covered, and secondly that we were such fans that we didn't need to be told his surname, as if if most give a damn about who the commentator is.

 

This idea that all speedway fans are fans of all the other motorcycle disciplines, and vice-versa is as ludicrous as assuming that a football fan must be a cricket or basketball fan because all three are played using a ball. 

David Rowe knows his stuff but I feel just needs to relax a little more at the mic. It can get a bit strident at the wrong times sometimes. There's a time to (almost) shout but it needs using carefully or it loses impact. 

On the rare occasions he was allowed to be lead commentator (play-offs on Sky) I found Kelvin Tatum to be by the best. Pearson does his job well, if that's the style you want. Again he knows his stuff and does a great job of reminding viewers just how many British tracks there are and what they were doing, as a clear suggestion that the viewer should go and visit their local track, but the relentless hype can get tiresome, but that's the style that a lot of producers and directors want. Thankfully plenty have more faith in the intelligence of their customers. 

 

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