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4 hours ago, ruffdiamond said:

Tha probly best pals really, a bit like the odd couple, they should get their own show;)

Honestly

Big no (NOOOOOoooooo) to that one Ruff...

However what none of them Cumbrian's will admit to is being a Jam Eater (due to it being an insult) (av been called worse) but the guys who I drink with in Maryport where the original jam factory was (and that is true) use it as a derisory comment to refer to their near West Cumbrian neighbours. In 1901, Burnfoot Preserves Works (the jam factory) established themselves in Maryport. However, by 1934 the jam factory had closed (Aw!) 

Now one story I was told was that due to the decline of the Coal Mines in the Workington area miners from Risehow and Solway PIts were transferred through to the Whitehaven mines Haig, William and Lowca pits. 

All those transferred to the Whitehaven mines were made welcome as colleagues and a lot of long and lasting friendships were forged between the workers (allegedly; but they really hated each other). However on settling into their workplace the new arrivals were soon inducted into the practices and traditions that existed in the Whitehaven mines. Allegedly one of those traditions that prevailed was "Blind Swap" which took place every Wednesday, where most of the miners that were working in groups exchanged snap tins (lunch boxes).

On opening the lunch boxes belonging to the Workington miners a number of the boxes contained "JAM SANDWICHES" with the Whitehaven miners retorting bloody jam, and calling their Workington colleagues "JAM EATERS" there was no nastiness they all thought it very funny and laughed and joked about it and the name still sticks to this day.

However I have heard another story that goes due to the dust and heat in the Workington pits due to poor ventilation jam was the only thing you could put in your bait without it going off down in the mines

The term "jam eater" is often used by the people of neighbouring Workington to refer to the people of Whitehaven, or more generally to people from West Cumbria. The common view is that the term is insulting because it implies people could not afford to buy meat for their sandwiches, so they had to eat jam instead.

Also due the long-term rivalry between Whitehaven and nearby Workington: Legend has it that one town's miners had jam on their sandwiches and the other did not, but no one agrees on which town it was or whether they did it because they were snobs or peasants.

All I know is us Maryport lads (yes av been adopted), who live a few miles further up the Cumbria coast (which, is occasionally mentioned in discussions on the topic; as we used to have the jam factory) take the moral high ground as we made the stuff and exported it to the poor folk of Whitehaven and Workington.

However I have been led to believe that the term originally referred to people from Whitehaven, and and it has been suggested that it was always used as a distinction between the Whitehaven "jam eaters" and Workington "high siders" which has gradually been lost in the trading of insults across the rugby pitch

However there's many a theory on it.....which ones correct? which one is true? who knows? who cares? everyone says its the other lot who are the jam eaters but its the elephant in the room because no one knows...  

https://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/news/17154970.who-are-the-jam-eaters/

Now sit back and let the Cumbrian Jam Eaters defend their position... but the one thing I do know for sure is us Maryport lads are definitely not Jam Eaters...

Now back to the speedway...

Whats the chances of Nicki Pedersen turning up for the 90th Anniversary meeting; Bjarne is signed up but I would love to see Nicki back as he was (and still is) a class act and who knows he may want some track time in before the UK Premiership season kicks off in earnest?  One can only hope....

Regards
THJ

 

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8 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

Big no (NOOOOOoooooo) to that one Ruff...

However what none of them Cumbrian's will admit to is being a Jam Eater (due to it being an insult) (av been called worse) but the guys who I drink with in Maryport where the original jam factory was (and that is true) use it as a derisory comment to refer to their near West Cumbrian neighbours. In 1901, Burnfoot Preserves Works (the jam factory) established themselves in Maryport. However, by 1934 the jam factory had closed (Aw!) 

Now one story I was told was that due to the decline of the Coal Mines in the Workington area miners from Risehow and Solway PIts were transferred through to the Whitehaven mines Haig, William and Lowca pits. 

All those transferred to the Whitehaven mines were made welcome as colleagues and a lot of long and lasting friendships were forged between the workers (allegedly; but they really hated each other). However on settling into their workplace the new arrivals were soon inducted into the practices and traditions that existed in the Whitehaven mines. Allegedly one of those traditions that prevailed was "Blind Swap" which took place every Wednesday, where most of the miners that were working in groups exchanged snap tins (lunch boxes).

On opening the lunch boxes belonging to the Workington miners a number of the boxes contained "JAM SANDWICHES" with the Whitehaven miners retorting bloody jam, and calling their Workington colleagues "JAM EATERS" there was no nastiness they all thought it very funny and laughed and joked about it and the name still sticks to this day.

However I have heard another story that goes due to the dust and heat in the Workington pits due to poor ventilation jam was the only thing you could put in your bait without it going off down in the mines

The term "jam eater" is often used by the people of neighbouring Workington to refer to the people of Whitehaven, or more generally to people from West Cumbria. The common view is that the term is insulting because it implies people could not afford to buy meat for their sandwiches, so they had to eat jam instead.

Also due the long-term rivalry between Whitehaven and nearby Workington: Legend has it that one town's miners had jam on their sandwiches and the other did not, but no one agrees on which town it was or whether they did it because they were snobs or peasants.

All I know is us Maryport lads (yes av been adopted), who live a few miles further up the Cumbria coast (which, is occasionally mentioned in discussions on the topic; as we used to have the jam factory) take the moral high ground as we made the stuff and exported it to the poor folk of Whitehaven and Workington.

However I have been led to believe that the term originally referred to people from Whitehaven, and and it has been suggested that it was always used as a distinction between the Whitehaven "jam eaters" and Workington "high siders" which has gradually been lost in the trading of insults across the rugby pitch

However there's many a theory on it.....which ones correct? which one is true? who knows? who cares? everyone says its the other lot who are the jam eaters but its the elephant in the room because no one knows...  

https://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/news/17154970.who-are-the-jam-eaters/

Now sit back and let the Cumbrian Jam Eaters defend their position... but the one thing I do know for sure is us Maryport lads are definitely not Jam Eaters...

Now back to the speedway...

Whats the chances of Nicki Pedersen turning up for the 90th Anniversary meeting; Bjarne is signed up but I would love to see Nicki back as he was (and still is) a class act and who knows he may want some track time in before the UK Premiership season kicks off in earnest?  One can only hope....

Regards
THJ

 

Mmm it seems that Maryport people didn’t eat their own jam......

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20 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

My house in Maryport was built on the old Jam factory site apparently... the locals tell me the Jam Eaters are everyone South of Flimby down the coast to Egremont... if you want me to introduce you to them to argue the toss I will quite happily arrange a meeting...

Regards 

THJ 

Presume it must be in a 'conserve'ation area..? :D

Buddum Tish....

I will get my coat.. ..

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2 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Makes me want to drop everything and head for Maryport. Seems it all happens there.

Now where do I get the protective clothing?

 

 

2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said:

From the Sellafield Factory Outlet Shop :t:

No you would be ok it's not close enough to Sellafield to worry about (especially if you keep out of the sea) (ahem)

No the biggest shock in Maryport at the moment is the opening of a new cocktail bar called Antonio's.... the jury is definitely still out amongst the hairy assed hillbilly's who live there...  those who know the place know exactly where I'm coming from...

How very dare they open such a "gay spot" in the roughest toughest lall town West of the Pecos... 

But to be honest it's a great place,  little pricey but the grub is fantastic and the cocktail's are different but I don't think I'm doing it right... having a pint then a cocktail chaser...  but hey ho it works...

However because it's a bit dearer and definitely more upmarket that the usual pubs there it does deter the nutters who tend to frequent the local drinking establishments... it's one of my favourite watering holes in Maryport now...

I have definitely taken to the spot it's like North Shields without the knives... a think the saying is #real.people...

Regards 

THJ 

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1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

 

No you would be ok it's not close enough to Sellafield to worry about (especially if you keep out of the sea) (ahem)

No the biggest shock in Maryport at the moment is the opening of a new cocktail bar called Antonio's.... the jury is definitely still out amongst the hairy assed hillbilly's who live there...  those who know the place know exactly where I'm coming from...

How very dare they open such a "gay spot" in the roughest toughest lall town West of the Pecos... 

But to be honest it's a great place,  little pricey but the grub is fantastic and the cocktail's are different but I don't think I'm doing it right... having a pint then a cocktail chaser...  but hey ho it works...

However because it's a bit dearer and definitely more upmarket that the usual pubs there it does deter the nutters who tend to frequent the local drinking establishments... it's one of my favourite watering holes in Maryport now...

I have definitely taken to the spot it's like North Shields without the knives... a think the saying is #real.people...

Regards 

THJ 

I lived in Maryport with work many moons ago. I lodged in the Golden Lion, which was down the hill just where the start of the marina, which was just starting to be built. That was a classy joint. We used to go to Cockermouth for our nights.

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41 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

I lived in Maryport with work many moons ago. I lodged in the Golden Lion, which was down the hill just where the start of the marina, which was just starting to be built. That was a classy joint. We used to go to Cockermouth for our nights.

Antonio's is part of the Golden Lion now they knocked into the White Star (Bubbles) next door and my spot is about 300 yards from there towards the dock just back from the harbour side...

I think the place is great and when I retire that's where I am heading off to... just a pity there isn't any league Speedway over there at present but I keep my fingers crossed that the situation might change someday...

Regards

THJ 

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14 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

 

No you would be ok it's not close enough to Sellafield to worry about (especially if you keep out of the sea) (ahem)

No the biggest shock in Maryport at the moment is the opening of a new cocktail bar called Antonio's.... the jury is definitely still out amongst the hairy assed hillbilly's who live there...  those who know the place know exactly where I'm coming from...

How very dare they open such a "gay spot" in the roughest toughest lall town West of the Pecos... 

But to be honest it's a great place,  little pricey but the grub is fantastic and the cocktail's are different but I don't think I'm doing it right... having a pint then a cocktail chaser...  but hey ho it works...

However because it's a bit dearer and definitely more upmarket that the usual pubs there it does deter the nutters who tend to frequent the local drinking establishments... it's one of my favourite watering holes in Maryport now...

I have definitely taken to the spot it's like North Shields without the knives... a think the saying is #real.people...

Regards 

THJ 

I'm from Widnes. We're not easily scared, even of mutant fish selling you cocktails......

Just waiting for someone top say they spent a month in Maryport one weekend. ;-)

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3 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

You have obviously never done the Maryport Blues Festival.... 

Now there's a big weekend...

Regards 

THJ 

my eldest played there after the band won the battle of the bands . it is a great day out if you can get to the end . 

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7 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

You have obviously never done the Maryport Blues Festival.... 

Now there's a big weekend...

Regards 

THJ 

Now your talking biggin blue festival.. we had a trip through there when I worked in wigton & aspatria back in the late 90`s cracking boozy joints but silloth is still 1 of my favorite places to get a good bevvie or a dozen soon the neck

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In what years - exclude WW2 - has there been speedway at Newcastle? The celebration Presume is to mark the sport's anniversary opening meeting and not virtual continuous action for 90 years. My memories of Newcastle riders mainly include Norman Evans, Charlie Spinks and others of the immediate Post-WW2 seasons. A great club IMO. Have a wonderful celebration. 

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