Newcastle 2020

[leander]

  On 10/23/2019 at 9:47 PM, bringbackHalifax said:

There are definitely at least 2 leagues. I know of 6 riders who are signed ( agreed deals ) with top two leagues. The usual culprit has his one to seven sorted and hopes to be first to announce, did not stop them finishing near bottom half of table, 3 championship riders dropping the champs league next season, one club looking to bounce back from a poor year have two riders over eight, one already announced. They have some idea of what’s happening or one hell of a job backtracking to do.

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Yes but some of the signings are "subject to the outcome of the conference". It wouldn't be the first time promoters have looked to have sorted everything out pre-conference. Then gone home and thought about it and realised that it wasn't such a good idea after all and gone totally the other way at the Conference.

[Fromafar]

  On 10/24/2019 at 1:56 PM, leander said:

Yes but some of the signings are "subject to the outcome of the conference". It wouldn't be the first time promoters have looked to have sorted everything out pre-conference. Then gone home and thought about it and realised that it wasn't such a good idea after all and gone totally the other way at the Conference.

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Think most things in principle are decided long before AGM ,it’s mainly a rubber stamp job and deciding helmet colours for coming season.

[mac101]

  On 10/24/2019 at 9:41 AM, ruffdiamond said:

Dunno...

Would the lost revenue from supplying a 'lesser' product cheaper,,, balance out against the saving on the wage bill?

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Would depend what sort of team they put out there’s loads of northern based riders  plus a few locals put a winning team together  and fans will come 

[enotian]

  On 10/24/2019 at 4:22 PM, mac101 said:

Would depend what sort of team they put out there’s loads of northern based riders  plus a few locals put a winning team together  and fans will come 

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and with one Archie Freeman a potential NL rider next season and the fact that, as a Sunday team with limited finances, we struggle to compete for big names (even though we're perfect for doubling up for the same Sunday reason) NDL could be a possibility.

However, if the rumours about Kent and Plymouth moving up are correct, plus the demise of Stoke, I'm not sure where that leaves the NDL anyway.

I wouldn't mind watching NDL if it's competitive but then I am used to watching 3rd tier sport

Perhaps if they made the NDL for any U-24 Brit, plus one over 24 rider and one U-24 foreigner the standard wouldn't be too diluted but affordable for the likes of Mildenhall and IoW and more sustainable for the majority of CL clubs. It would mean most of the riders would be UK based.

[mac101]

  On 10/24/2019 at 8:01 PM, enotian said:

and with one Archie Freeman a potential NL rider next season and the fact that, as a Sunday team with limited finances, we struggle to compete for big names (even though we're perfect for doubling up for the same Sunday reason) NDL could be a possibility.

However, if the rumours about Kent and Plymouth moving up are correct, plus the demise of Stoke, I'm not sure where that leaves the NDL anyway.

I wouldn't mind watching NDL if it's competitive but then I am used to watching 3rd tier sport

Perhaps if they made the NDL for any U-24 Brit, plus one over 24 rider and one U-24 foreigner the standard wouldn't be too diluted but affordable for the likes of Mildenhall and IoW and more sustainable for the majority of CL clubs. It would mean most of the riders would be UK based.

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If there’s only a handful of teams they could run 2 teams and only do league matches so would only need 5 Sunday’s  Which could be fitted in on blank weekends unless they made the finals lol might need a few more lol

[Justgotmecpc]

  On 10/24/2019 at 8:01 PM, enotian said:

and with one Archie Freeman a potential NL rider next season and the fact that, as a Sunday team with limited finances, we struggle to compete for big names (even though we're perfect for doubling up for the same Sunday reason) NDL could be a possibility.

However, if the rumours about Kent and Plymouth moving up are correct, plus the demise of Stoke, I'm not sure where that leaves the NDL anyway.

I wouldn't mind watching NDL if it's competitive but then I am used to watching 3rd tier sport

Perhaps if they made the NDL for any U-24 Brit, plus one over 24 rider and one U-24 foreigner the standard wouldn't be too diluted but affordable for the likes of Mildenhall and IoW and more sustainable for the majority of CL clubs. It would mean most of the riders would be UK based.

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Got to let Archie progress on the 500 next season before giving him a NL spot but in 2021 he has another full season under his belt & he will be ready

[Terrace Grumbler]

If anyone can shed an light on the change of ownership,  I'm all ears.

I hope we will retain the best team manager in British speedway. IGWT.

[soupy]

GED Rathbone...

[Fortythirtyeight]

Strong rumours in the pits last night that the ' Gedfather ' is taking up the reigns with his best friend Martin and they have bought Gentleman George out.

George has been a stalwart at Newcastle but maybe a new leader can inject some enthusiasm in the place as there appeared to be more Redcar fans than home fans last night, but then success always brings a crowd.

If George's time is up then he gave it his all, put his time and money in and should be greatly thanked for his services.

Newcastle for the National League? Got to be asked as they will already have Phillips, Embleton, Ben Rathbone and possibly Archie Freeman to consider for team places.

[Dandelion]

Would be good news if Ged and Martin had bought out Newcastle... Bit of a boost money wise and might interest a few new names... Plus they might run the team a bit different and build a team we're not used to... Might be good times ahead...

HOWEVER... I still want George to stay and be involved somehow... Even if he was joint team manager or something? Surely the more people behind the scenes helping out like that the better?

And for the love of god please bring back Andrew Dalby to the microphone... Let Roy put on his Redcar jacket like he really wants to

Edited October 28, 2019 by Dandelion

[ch958]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:09 PM, Fortythirtyeight said:

Strong rumours in the pits last night that the ' Gedfather ' is taking up the reigns with his best friend Martin and they have bought Gentleman George out.

George has been a stalwart at Newcastle but maybe a new leader can inject some enthusiasm in the place as there appeared to be more Redcar fans than home fans last night, but then success always brings a crowd.

If George's time is up then he gave it his all, put his time and money in and should be greatly thanked for his services.

Newcastle for the National League? Got to be asked as they will already have Phillips, Embleton, Ben Rathbone and possibly Archie Freeman to consider for team places.

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I wouldn't be so sure there will be a NL; who would be in it? No Kent, Cradley, Plymouth, Stoke - that wd leave Mildy, IOW, BV, Leicester

[TotallyHonestJohn]

  On 10/27/2019 at 9:50 PM, Terrace Grumbler said:

If anyone can shed an light on the change of ownership,  I'm all ears.

I hope we will retain the best team manager in British speedway. IGWT.

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Honestly

I didn't think Newcastle ever had Tony Jackson as team manager who is surely the best team manager in British speedway following his treble winning exploits for Workington in 2018 (H18tory) with a team that everyone had written off at the start of the season before a wheel was turned.... (even him lol) (oh and with a little bit of help down at Ipswich when he couldn't make it so a brilliant; dashing; handsome and very modest stand-in took his place and pulled off a dramatic away win)

However you will be pleased to know you wont need to change your acronym as "In Ged We Trust" still turns out to be "IGWT"

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:32 PM, ch958 said:

I wouldn't be so sure there will be a NL; who would be in it? No Kent, Cradley, Plymouth, Stoke - that wd leave Mildy, IOW, BV, Leicester

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Was told last night that Leicester aren't running their Cubs team next year and its starting to look like BV wont be running their Colts team either so Mildenhall and the IOW will be it (although I was once told that BV had to run the Colts as part of the deal they had with the council so that may have been a bum steer)

Regards
THJ

Edited October 28, 2019 by TotallyHonestJohn
Edited for accuracy

[poole keith]

i dont know the answer but something has to be done to introduce and develop young british speedway riders,every club should make some level of commitment,perhaps a small individual 

meeting after league matches,£300 to the winner?? 

[phillwhitewasmad]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:55 PM, poole keith said:

i dont know the answer but something has to be done to introduce and develop young british speedway riders,every club should make some level of commitment,perhaps a small individual 

meeting after league matches,£300 to the winner?? 

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Great idea or get all clubs to run the meetings they sign up to

[ch958]

given the paucity of fixtures couldn't every club run a 2nd team? Perhaps using 6 and 7 too

[Terrace Grumbler]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:47 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

I didn't think Newcastle ever had Tony Jackson as team manager 

 

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Thank you, THJ

No, no, we didn't.  And only a fool would take anything away from Workington's achievements last season.

But George has run a successful team for over 20 years: something has gone wrong this year and I suspect (but probably will never know) that this season's team may not have been all his choices.

Doea anyone know if it is definitely the case that Rathbone (and Philips) are the new owners?

[Winditon]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:09 PM, Fortythirtyeight said:

Strong rumours in the pits last night that the ' Gedfather ' is taking up the reigns with his best friend Martin and they have bought Gentleman George out.

George has been a stalwart at Newcastle but maybe a new leader can inject some enthusiasm in the place as there appeared to be more Redcar fans than home fans last night, but then success always brings a crowd.

If George's time is up then he gave it his all, put his time and money in and should be greatly thanked for his services.

Newcastle for the National League? Got to be asked as they will already have Phillips, Embleton, Ben Rathbone and possibly Archie Freeman to consider for team places.

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I personally think a change within at Newcastle would be great for the club. I think things have started to become stale. Ged Rathbone seems to be a perfect match. Is quite local to the area. Has good knowledge of how to run a club and will have fresh ideas to hopefully get Newcastle back challenging for honours. Maybe just rumours about him but i think he could definitely take the club forward. If it is the end of the English`s time at the diamonds i would like to thank them for all the hard work they as a family have put in to Newcastle speedway. I know George isn't everyone's cup of tea but you can't knock his passion and commitment.

[Yearbyred]

Looks like another Teesside takeover of Tyneside if the rumours are true.

Personally think it would be good news for Newcastle.

[mikebv]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:55 PM, poole keith said:

i dont know the answer but something has to be done to introduce and develop young british speedway riders,every club should make some level of commitment,perhaps a small individual 

meeting after league matches,£300 to the winner?? 

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Spot on..

Should have been implemented years ago..

However I wouldn't think too many clubs would want to pay out (or afford) £300...

There would be some mileage though if it was treated as 'free practice' I would reckon...

'Junior scurrys' should just be seen as experience and opportunity for lads to ride a bike and improve..

MX riders often pay to ride at grass roots level therefore entry level riders need to understand getting paid won't happen till they reach the top two leagues...

Edited October 28, 2019 by mikebv

[jenga]

  On 10/28/2019 at 4:47 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

I didn't think Newcastle ever had Tony Jackson as team manager who is surely the best team manager in British speedway following his treble winning exploits for Workington in 2018 (H18tory) with a team that everyone had written off at the start of the season before a wheel was turned.... (even him lol) (oh and with a little bit of help down at Ipswich when he couldn't make it so a brilliant; dashing; handsome and very modest stand-in took his place and pulled off a dramatic away win)

However you will be pleased to know you wont need to change your acronym as "In Ged We Trust" still turns out to be "IGWT"

Was told last night that Leicester aren't running their Cubs team next year and its starting to look like BV wont be running their Colts team either so Mildenhall and the IOW will be it (although I was once told that BV had to run the Colts as part of the deal they had with the council so that may have been a bum steer)

Regards
THJ

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Easy THJ . you are giving too much information away about your I.D. we are not all good at maths (sums ) and 2 and 2 are starting to add up !