ruffdiamond Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Yeah Arthur, but what you've got to remember is that America is a big place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 hours ago, DC2 said: But it’s not a good idea to have a league table skewed by teams racing some opponents more than others. That’s just daft. Why not have a proper league with 22 fixtures, one home and one away against each of the other opponents, and a separate competition divided into north and south conferences? Instead they’ve combined the two and made a pig’s ear. Far to sensible and straightforward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Far to sensible and straightforward Cant knock them for continuity tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 hours ago, DC2 said: But it’s not a good idea to have a league table skewed by teams racing some opponents more than others. That’s just daft. Why not have a proper league with 22 fixtures, one home and one away against each of the other opponents, and a separate competition divided into north and south conferences? Instead they’ve combined the two and made a pig’s ear. They're hoping to have the Shield or similar up and running as well so that would be even more matches. I think they're going on the fact league meetings are far better attended than other meaningless competitions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Why is all this guff about league structures being discussed on the Newcastle thread, at a time the very future of the Diamonds is in real doubt, and the concentration of minds and offered opinions should be about the club's survival? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Why is all this guff about league structures being discussed on the Newcastle thread, at a time the very future of the Diamonds is in real doubt, and the concentration of minds and offered opinions should be about the club's survival? Go on then, let’s have a bright idea. Have you started a “Save Newcastle Speedway Campaign” and raised money from local businesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: They're hoping to have the Shield or similar up and running as well so that would be even more matches. I think they're going on the fact league meetings are far better attended than other meaningless competitions So scrap the shield and make the league 2 home and 2 away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: So scrap the shield and make the league 2 home and 2 away Or start with the league having one home and one away and then divide the table into top six and bottom six who race only against each other home and away and then have the play offs between the top three from the top six and the top three from the bottom six. Basing it on the Countdown numbers game rather than American football. Oh, no, hang on, that would be one from the top six and five from the bottom! Edited November 18, 2019 by DC2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I know it's unusual for anyone involved in speedway to actually talk about money but it would be nice if the promoters told us how much money they need to run next year and then possiblly the true fans migt be able to help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasVegas Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, erniew said: I know it's unusual for anyone involved in speedway to actually talk about money but it would be nice if the promoters told us how much money they need to run next year and then possiblly the true fans migt be able to help. or the "true fans" you speak of could mobilise themselves right now (social media makes it pretty easy) and pledge £x thousand to encourage a positive outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, crescent girl said: Why is all this guff about league structures being discussed on the Newcastle thread, at a time the very future of the Diamonds is in real doubt, and the concentration of minds and offered opinions should be about the club's survival? It’s a forum,you can discuss what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 13 hours ago, StevePark said: When they got to the 'nitty gritty' extra financial implications were then put upon them, which they were not aware of when initially wanting to move up. Their Website says: "HAVING BEEN GRANTED PERMISSION TO PUT ITS CREDENTIALS TO THE SPORTS GENERAL COUNCIL AT THE AGM HELD IN COVENTRY THIS WEEK, THE REQUIREMENT OF NEW AND PREVIOUSLY UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS OF ENTRY; WHICH WOULD HAVE MEANT INCREASED FINANCIAL ASSURANCES AND BONDS HAVING TO BE PAID IMMEDIATELY, MEANT THAT THE PROMOTION HAD NO ALTERNATIVE BUT TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION ON THE GROUNDS OF THE MEDIUM AND LONG TERM FINANCIAL SECURITY OF THE CLUB." OK cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: So scrap the shield and make the league 2 home and 2 away 2 hours ago, DC2 said: Or start with the league having one home and one away and then divide the table into top six and bottom six who race only against each other home and away and then have the play offs between the top three from the top six and the top three from the bottom six. Basing it on the Countdown numbers game rather than American football. Oh, no, hang on, that would be one from the top six and five from the bottom! I think the main point was to bring more local clashes as they bring in the most money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, DC2 said: Or start with the league having one home and one away and then divide the table into top six and bottom six who race only against each other home and away and then have the play offs between the top three from the top six and the top three from the bottom six. Basing it on the Countdown numbers game rather than American football. Oh, no, hang on, that would be one from the top six and five from the bottom! That idea needs a "Word Round" too.. Consonant, Consonant, Vowel, Consonant, Consonant, Consonant, Consonant, Vowel.. L L O C K S B O... Edited November 18, 2019 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, erniew said: I know it's unusual for anyone involved in speedway to actually talk about money but it would be nice if the promoters told us how much money they need to run next year and then possiblly the true fans migt be able to help. On 11/13/2019 at 11:43 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: No he's two million miles away... av offered twice and been knocked back... sorry to say there wont be a third time... It's to late... where's the riders... where's Dandelion when you need her... there ain't any one left of note to build a team around... a said a few weeks back that a was worried... even more so now... Pull the accounts for Newspeed off the Companies House web site and if anyone can square the circle send me a PM and I will stick some cash in... or at least more than I have over the last nine years... Here's a plea 10 companies or individuals set up a trust stick 5 grand each in each and pledge to do it for the next 3 years and that will potentially keep the place afloat... do that and I am in but you need to be aware that this will basically only cover the stadium rent of around 1600 quid which I believe is the second highest in the country and the medical cover of around a grand for an 18 home meetings season... Or find one person or company to stick in 50k but who would do that without wanting some control... Never say never but I honestly think we are at the nearly stage and here's another one... if as rumoured George walks will all his pals walk with him... from turnstile operators to track staff... that leaves one hell of a gap at the club... I'm putting wads of cash on that Euro and if I cop the lot it will be no problem but my company isn't big enough to back a Speedway team... oh but I wish it was... I am prepared to help but can't do it on my own unfortunately... Over to anyone else out there... (if it helps there is one other chap I have spoken to who is a genuine guy and two other possibilities) (So six more required) Regards THJ That might give you an idea and, it sort of ties-in with numbers that I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: I think the main point was to bring more local clashes as they bring in the most money. Yes, I know and it’s fair enough for speedway to save a few quid I suppose, but let’s not pretend that it’s a model for a fair and accurate league. It’s not. And you say “local” clashes, but that’s stretching it as travelling for 50 or 100 miles to another team in your group isn’t really local, is it? Plus, it’s often the league leaders who attract the biggest crowd. Edited November 18, 2019 by DC2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: That idea needs a "Word Round" too.. Consonant, Consonant, Vowel, Consonant, Consonant, Consonant, Consonant, Vowel.. L L O C K S B O... Should it not have another vowel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: That might give you an idea and, it sort of ties-in with numbers that I have heard. Been busy over the weekend and today but once I am back in the office I will share what I can and hopefully we can pull this round and maybe even move things forward... It's not all doom and gloom Regards THJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 17 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Do the results of the matches with ‘a selection of teams from the others’ appear in the league tables along with the matches within their own conference? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsy29 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Been busy over the weekend and today but once I am back in the office I will share what I can and hopefully we can pull this round and maybe even move things forward... It's not all doom and gloom Regards THJ Lets hope so John. Certainly heard a bit more positivity over the weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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