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2 minutes ago, Arson fire said:

So you chose to pick up on one paragraph of a lengthy post??  What are your feelings about this whole carry on then Dave? Were you aware of these latest developments?? 

Cos that para involved me, and what you are saying is not true so pointing that out to you. Why shouldn't I put your record straight.

Why would I be in on the latest developments .News to me until I read it in here.   Looking for a dig I think. As I said above previously ,I retired from 2003 and even gave my controlling shares away as a gift.

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2 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Well, stop making stupid and uninformed comments. The promotion were pleased at what'we were doing, and it was us that were pulling the strings, not them. Gillian, Alan, Malla, Janet and the Purvis's can't say anything different..  

Uninformed?  Im telling you what i was told at times and in confidence by 3 members of the committee man!! How more bloody informed do you want??...

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1 minute ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

To be fair Dave the supporters club did some sterling work but what caused their demise? Pulling up trees one minute then gone... from the outside looking in; it looked like someone was working agianst them... which was a shame...

Regards 

THJ

The fall of the Supporters `Club was when I left,  having spent three years doing what I had to do to help the club out, and no-one was particularly keen to keep it going. 

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3 minutes ago, Arson fire said:

Uninformed?  Im telling you what i was told at times and in confidence by 3 members of the committee man!! How more bloody informed do you want??...

Well they are telling fibs, and you would believe it.

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14 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

The fall of the Supporters `Club was when I left,  having spent three years doing what I had to do to help the club out, and no-one was particularly keen to keep it going. 

Dave I wouldn't say fall more like let down by certain people.. which cost the supporters club a fair bit of money ! As when the fixtures for Newcastle united were announced in the CHAMPIONSHIP & the 1st game was v Fulham we were let down by certain people & probably about a dozen of them at the time & then me jim julie & the rest of the committee thought well what's the point of carrying on.. so we decided to carry on for another few months but with other things like health & work commitments it was decided to call it a day & we did put appeals out for new members to take it on but there was not 1 person came forward.. which was a shame as me & jim were prepared to help them on there way 

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33 minutes ago, pienpeesman said:

Dave I wouldn't say fall more like let down by certain people.. which cost the supporters club a fair bit of money ! As when the fixtures for Newcastle united were announced in the CHAMPIONSHIP & the 1st game was v Fulham we were let down by certain people & probably about a dozen of them at the time & then me jim julie & the rest of the committee thought well what's the point of carrying on.. so we decided to carry on for another few months but with other things like health & work commitments it was decided to call it a day & we did put appeals out for new members to take it on but there was not 1 person came forward.. which was a shame as me & jim were prepared to help them on there way 

But you know that you could not have said to Kenny that the promotion interfered in any way with what we were doing. It would be telling lies if say you and Alan P said that to Kenny.

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9 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

But you know that you could not have said to Kenny that the promotion interfered in amy way with what we were doing. It wold be telling lies if say you and Alan P said that to Kenny.

Why me & Alan ? But I would say apart from Alan hedley what he donated to our fund raising night at the blue flames was fantastic  & when he & george came to our meeting 1 night that's all that george did do he never really botherd with us on speedway race nights ( but that's not a dig ) as he must have been in the zone but as I said we did offer for others to take it on but nee 1 wanted it... I have even told Rob that I will run buses if & when we get going next season & beyond covid permitting

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14 hours ago, pienpeesman said:

Why me & Alan ? But I would say apart from Alan hedley what he donated to our fund raising night at the blue flames was fantastic  & when he & george came to our meeting 1 night that's all that george did do he never really botherd with us on speedway race nights ( but that's not a dig ) as he must have been in the zone but as I said we did offer for others to take it on but nee 1 wanted it... I have even told Rob that I will run buses if & when we get going next season & beyond covid permitting

Sorry if it was't you, but you and Alan are or were very friendly with Kenny so who else could it be. Pleased you have agreed we had a free hand and operated without any influence. We didn't want it, and just got on and did a great job, so it's sad that others would try and say otherwise for their own reasons..

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3 minutes ago, pienpeesman said:

Why me & Alan ? But I would say apart from Alan hedley what he donated to our fund raising night at the blue flames was fantastic  & when he & george came to our meeting 1 night that's all that george did do he never really botherd with us on speedway race nights ( but that's not a dig ) as he must have been in the zone but as I said we did offer for others to take it on but nee 1 wanted it... I have even told Rob that I will run buses if & when we get going next season & beyond covid permitting

You could run a river cruise mate, sort it all out put all the hard work in and make a good few quid... just hope no-one lets you down on a whim after ordering loads of tickets and you no option but to cancel it.:nono:

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7 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Sorry if it was't you, but you and Alan are or were very friendly with Kenny so who else could it be, Pleased you have agreed we had a free hand and operated without any influence. We didn't want it, and just got on and did a great job so it's sad that others would try and say otherwise for their own reasons..

I get on with a lot of folk dave but I don't carry or tell tales as you know.. I say it to the face as I hate having things building up inside of me.. & there's been a heck of a lot of 2 faced people telling tales at Newcastle speedway for quite a while & ,why can't they just say it how it is rather than telling tales & getting others involved

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1 hour ago, Tsunami said:

The fall of the Supporters `Club was when I left,  having spent three years doing what I had to do to help the club out, and no-one was particularly keen to keep it going. 

Have to say the reason the Supporters Club ended wasn't because of you leaving Dave. Julie,Mala,Janet Ken Davies and myself continued for a good while longer. The main reason was my I'll Health at the time and neither Julie or I could commit as we were. We still managed to do a few month more but the straw that broke the camel's back was the final Social event we put on which was a Christmas party. Despite my best efforts to sell tickets like previous events a lot of people said they would pay on the night. I ordered the buffet but out of over 120 people who reserved tickets/played for tickets there were less than 70 in attendance. I put over £150 of my personal money in to pay for the buffet as we didnt have enough in club funds. I lost this money. That was when enough was enough for Julie and I. We raised a lot of money but could have raised so much more. We lost £600 in deposits for 2 cancelled events. The second family fun day and the second river cruise. Having been involved in fundraising for over 30 years you'll remember me saying on many occasions how frustrating I was finding things and you'll no doubt remember you and i locked horns several times over how we both wanted things done. 

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There is 2 things that stand out about the current situation at Newcastle, 1.Grant never did his Du Diligence before he purchased the club, big mistake. 2.It really is a massive worry time for the previous Directors of the Club, If I was one,every time there was a knock on my Door my heart would miss a beat, Having heard the amount involved there really is a distinct possibility of a Jail sentence for them. 

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Very sad to hear about the apparent demise of Newspeed 2003 Ltd and particularly if , as alleged, there are unpaid sums due to riders. That doesn't sound like the Diamonds promotion who I always believed had a reputation for paying riders on time.

What I find concerning is the question over who does the bond held by SCB belong to? If it belongs to Newspeed 2003 Ltd, then presumably it will be available to pay off creditors? Which leads to the question, will Rob's new company have to make a formal application to SCB and stump up some more money for a new bond assuming the application is accepted?

I'm surprised that Rob did not start with a new company and simply purchase the assets from Newspeed 2003 Ltd that he needed to avoid any skeletons in the cupboard appearing. Maybe there was a good reason for that, and perhaps it was related to the SCB bond.

Personally I don't believe the former directors should have anything to worry about unless someone proves that they have withdrawn funds/value for their own personal benefit without accounting for tax and NI.To the best of my knowledge these matters are normally dealt with under civil rules rather than criminal, hence any talk of jail sentences is really a total nonsense!

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1 hour ago, Aceslider said:

Very sad to hear about the apparent demise of Newspeed 2003 Ltd and particularly if , as alleged, there are unpaid sums due to riders. That doesn't sound like the Diamonds promotion who I always believed had a reputation for paying riders on time.

What I find concerning is the question over who does the bond held by SCB belong to? If it belongs to Newspeed 2003 Ltd, then presumably it will be available to pay off creditors? Which leads to the question, will Rob's new company have to make a formal application to SCB and stump up some more money for a new bond assuming the application is accepted?

I'm surprised that Rob did not start with a new company and simply purchase the assets from Newspeed 2003 Ltd that he needed to avoid any skeletons in the cupboard appearing. Maybe there was a good reason for that, and perhaps it was related to the SCB bond.

Personally I don't believe the former directors should have anything to worry about unless someone proves that they have withdrawn funds/value for their own personal benefit without accounting for tax and NI.To the best of my knowledge these matters are normally dealt with under civil rules rather than criminal, hence any talk of jail sentences is really a total nonsense!

Former jockey served a prison term 366 days for the same carry on 

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