Tsunami Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ruffdiamond said: Where would that leave the dog racing, Gosforth Park, perhaps? That was the objective in the first place, but given the future in Dogs is not that secure, I don't think the Dogs will go anywhere. They will just close down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tsunami said: That was the objective in the first place, but given the future in Dogs is not that secure, I don't think the Dogs will go anywhere. They will just close down. I would think that depends on how much money the bookies make from the dogs in shops or online betting?,,, maybe the dogs days are numbered, it's so 'Old Hat' (flat cap) nowadays. Edited September 2, 2020 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Honestly lads a love ya pragmatism... build build build refers to houses houses and more houses due to a national shortage (in the South East) (cough cough) apparently and councils will still get the ultimate say on new developments Sports and leisure are always a high priority because they employ people and generate a spend in the community however we are talking about motor sport... it will be difficult but not impossible... It will be down to Rob and his team to sell the idea and how it will benefit the region locally and nationally and more importantly the local community (getting the kids in and keeping them entertained is a big plus) and also how much oomph he can put into his business plan... and the other thing in the Speedways favour is that it is there now so there would need to be a massive number of complainants to muddy the water.... It's all if's but"s and the proverbial and's at the moment however it is the right time to start looking and engaging in the process because I feel the writing is on the wall for Brough... sadly... Regards THJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly lads a love ya pragmatism... build build build refers to houses houses and more houses due to a national shortage (in the South East) (cough cough) apparently and councils will still get the ultimate say on new developments Sports and leisure are always a high priority because they employ people and generate a spend in the community however we are talking about motor sport... it will be difficult but not impossible... It will be down to Rob and his team to sell the idea and how it will benefit the region locally and nationally and more importantly the local community (getting the kids in and keeping them entertained is a big plus) and also how much oomph he can put into his business plan... exactly. if you could convince a local authority that having a speedway (or sports) stadium would bring thousands of visitors to the region (for example for a GP) to boost the local economy then you might be part of the way there. but then who funds it? Gateshead FC have been looking for a new stadium for years. There's plenty of waste ground in Gateshead but there's no funding. I'd have thought with Rob Grants lineage to farming you're looking at a Berrington Lough type prospect rather than a NSS Manchester. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly lads a love ya pragmatism... build build build refers to houses houses and more houses due to a national shortage (in the South East) (cough cough) apparently and councils will still get the ultimate say on new developments Sports and leisure are always a high priority because they employ people and generate a spend in the community however we are talking about motor sport... it will be difficult but not impossible... It will be down to Rob and his team to sell the idea and how it will benefit the region locally and nationally and more importantly the local community (getting the kids in and keeping them entertained is a big plus) and also how much oomph he can put into his business plan... and the other thing in the Speedways favour is that it is there now so there would need to be a massive number of complainants to muddy the water.... It's all if's but"s and the proverbial and's at the moment however it is the right time to start looking and engaging in the process because I feel the writing is on the wall for Brough... sadly... Regards THJ Aye, 'pragmatism', that's probably where it hits the wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Cash will be the problem and getting council backing... in the late 40's the 50's and early 60's when Speedway was second only to Football for crowd attendances it wouldn't have been an issue... but now... getting enough cash and local council support will be very difficult I reckon.. and it won't be a stadium... no NSS or Gateshead Stadium... more Gateshead Tip... An some French bloke screwed the other plan a had up me sleeve when he won the euro lottery last night... Regards THJ Edited September 2, 2020 by TotallyHonestJohn Missed out word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Hahahaha LMFAO The Newcastle Speedway Supporters Group have posted on their Facebook group within the last hour the latest sites they have looked at which include Seaton Burn Gateshead and Wylam to name but a few... Steve Park may be able to set up a link... Wonder if they got my email today with my suggested sites on? Regards THJ Oh... and there was a one on yesterday apparently asking "how far would you travel to watch Speedway" FFS why does the Supporters Group assume everyone has Facebook.... Well I used to go to to all of the away meetings when I could so as long as it's not the moon (Or Sunderland) am in... and I reckon Tsunami, Ruff, Terrace Grumbler, ArsonFire, Pienpeesman and anyone else with a car would say the same... Regards THJ Edited September 2, 2020 by TotallyHonestJohn Edited for accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: The whole planning process is an absolute minefield (unless you can get buy in from local councillors and the local MP's) and more so for motor sports... I remember a few years ago Nick Brown MP said he would do everything he could to help us move away from Brough Park into new facilities , if we needed it. 7 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Hahahaha LMFAO The Newcastle Speedway Supporters Group have posted on their Facebook group within the last hour the latest sites they have looked at which include Seaton Burn Gateshead and Wylam to name but a few... Steve Park may be able to set up a link... Wonder if they got my email today with my suggested sites on? Regards THJ https://www.facebook.com/nssg2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, StevePark said: I remember a few years ago Nick Brown MP said he would do everything he could to help us move away from Brough Park into new facilities , if we needed it. https://www.facebook.com/nssg2020 Good guy Nick Brown and I know him from way back in his council days and no pun intended he's as straight as the day is long... he is a politician who is true to his word and if he said he would help he would do just that... one of the very few... On that Facebook thing Steve... I can't see the relevant post without logging in or creating an account and not that I would want to anyway but I can't at present due to my job... It may work for others but I have just had it sent encrypted so I have now read both posts... Still laughing... Regards THJ By the way and just for information. . Not Everyone Is On Facebook.... and certainly not all of the demographic at this Speedway Club that's for sure... Edited September 2, 2020 by TotallyHonestJohn Missed out word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Good guy Nick Brown and I know him from way back in his council days and no pun intended he's as straight as the day is long... he is a politician who is true to his word and if he said he would help he would do just that... one of the very few... On that Facebook thing Steve... I can't see the relevant post without logging in or creating an account and not that I would want to anyway but I can't at present due to my job... It may work for others but I have just had it sent encrypted so I have now read both posts... Still laughing... Regards THJ Here it is Copied and Pasted: Following a meeting with all management parties today, we would like to officially announce that we are now in the process of considering a number of potential sites in various locations including Seaton Burn, Gateshead and Wylam to name a few. We are in positive talks with the land owners, aswell as the representatives of the Borough Councils that these sites are situated in. Bearing this in mind, we are still welcoming and considering all available options for our new home so if you or any other supporters/friends/family own any land/smallholdings that you think would be suitable for our needs and would be willing to lease this land out on a long term basis, then please feel free to get in touch. You can contact us via email at either: Nssg@newcastle-speedway.co.uk Info@newcastle-speedway.co.uk Or drop us a message on Facebook! We truly value your help and support at this time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) I guess Seaton Burn will be the remains of the Banks opencast that is just about done. It’s on Viscount Ridley’s land. cramlington continues to expand and might be an excellent catchment area for new fans. Edited September 2, 2020 by Chewbacca 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Hahahaha LMFAO The Newcastle Speedway Supporters Group have posted on their Facebook group within the last hour the latest sites they have looked at which include Seaton Burn Gateshead and Wylam to name but a few... Steve Park may be able to set up a link... Wonder if they got my email today with my suggested sites on? Regards THJ Oh... and there was a one on yesterday apparently asking "how far would you travel to watch Speedway" FFS why does the Supporters Group assume everyone has Facebook.... Well I used to go to to all of the away meetings when I could so as long as it's not the moon (Or Sunderland) am in... and I reckon Tsunami, Ruff, Terrace Grumbler, ArsonFire, Pienpeesman and anyone else with a car would say the same... Regards THJ Only when I'm not joining your good self in the bar for post meeting refreshments 1 or a dozen then I may want to drive lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 I would assume that any development for a new track would have more than just speedway to generate income, kart track, bowling alley etc. which would provide permanent employment on the site and satisfy the authorities need for a financial and employment gain and assist in the running costs of the speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: I guess Seaton Burn will be the remains of the Banks opencast that is just about done. It’s on Viscount Ridley’s land. cramlington continues to expand and might be an excellent catchment area for new fans. If it belongs to Ridley it will be getting houses built on it for sure it's all he's about these days... however in my email to the club today I proposed a site in Cramlington between the Banks open cast site and Nelson industrial estate... 8 minutes ago, pienpeesman said: Only when I'm not joining your good self in the bar for post meeting refreshments 1 or a dozen then I may want to drive lol Your Dean can drive man ya not thinking reet... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ore Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, StevePark said: Here it is Copied and Pasted: Following a meeting with all management parties today, we would like to officially announce that we are now in the process of considering a number of potential sites in various locations including Seaton Burn, Gateshead and Wylam to name a few. The fantastic real ales (all 12 of them) at the Boathouse in Wylam, make it a no brainer where it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSG Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Hahahaha LMFAO The Newcastle Speedway Supporters Group have posted on their Facebook group within the last hour the latest sites they have looked at which include Seaton Burn Gateshead and Wylam to name but a few... Steve Park may be able to set up a link... Wonder if they got my email today with my suggested sites on? Regards THJ Oh... and there was a one on yesterday apparently asking "how far would you travel to watch Speedway" FFS why does the Supporters Group assume everyone has Facebook.... Well I used to go to to all of the away meetings when I could so as long as it's not the moon (Or Sunderland) am in... and I reckon Tsunami, Ruff, Terrace Grumbler, ArsonFire, Pienpeesman and anyone else with a car would say the same... Regards THJ Good evening THJ, We here at the Supporters Group would just like to assure you that we are totally aware that not everybody has access to Facebook, and we are also especially aware that our older generation of supporters will most likely not see any posts put on Facebook by ourselves or anyone else in management. This being said, however, Facebook still remains the quickest and easiest way to gain the opinions and thoughts of a majority number of supporters. This then helps us make decisions as a club, who have listened to what our supporters are thinking. Surely this can only be a good thing, yes? So while we are pleased that you are "still laughing now", if you could try and refrain from insinuating negativity in to our hard work and efforts to incorporate our supporters opinions, that would be very much appreciated. Many thanks. P. S we are yet to receive the email you previously mention in this thread this evening. Rest assured though, every effort will be made to access it at our earliest convenience. Regards, NSSG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: If it belongs to Ridley it will be getting houses built on it for sure it's all he's about these days... however in my email to the club today I proposed a site in Cramlington between the Banks open cast site and Nelson industrial estate... Your Dean can drive man ya not thinking reet... Regards THJ Well he does but he also likes the smell & taste of sherbitnowadays ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, NSSG said: Good evening THJ, We here at the Supporters Group would just like to assure you that we are totally aware that not everybody has access to Facebook, and we are also especially aware that our older generation of supporters will most likely not see any posts put on Facebook by ourselves or anyone else in management. This being said, however, Facebook still remains the quickest and easiest way to gain the opinions and thoughts of a majority number of supporters. This then helps us make decisions as a club, who have listened to what our supporters are thinking. Surely this can only be a good thing, yes? NO!!! So while we are pleased that you are "still laughing now", if you could try and refrain from insinuating negativity in to our hard work and efforts to incorporate our supporters opinions, that would be very much appreciated. Many thanks. P. S we are yet to receive the email you previously mention in this thread this evening. Rest assured though, every effort will be made to access it at our earliest convenience. Regards, NSSG Oh get me the "Aloe Vera" av just been burned by the NSSG... aaarrrggghhhhh!!! Honestly If you posted information on the Newcastle Speedway Website first, which is where most people look and have free access to, and give them the gist of what's going on or tell them where on Facebook (with a link) they might be able to find your additional information... instead of wapping it on your little clique(y) group on Facebook then you wouldn't get posts on here which maybe are at cross purposes... Information for the masses please... or you can do the "Secret Squirrel" routine aka like the last promotions "modus operandi" and leave people to find out what's going on through the rumor mill... your choice of course... yes? By the way... most of your first paragraph is spot on but totally contradicts what you say you are trying to achieve... also in the last line am I to assume you are part of the management? And can I ask when has anyone from the management run a supporters group... don't tell Mike Ashley or he will be putting Lee Charnley onto the Newcastle Supporters Trust Committee.... So after everything you state in the first paragraph on how no one has Facebook you tell us in the second one this is your best medium of contacting fans... Yes? Well who are you contacting then if no one is on Facebook... then you state it helps you make decisions as a club again this infers that you are part of the management or promotion so how can you make impartial decisions as a supposed supporters group if you are part of the management... Then finally you state all your hard work is being undermined... what hard work? Typing up a post and sticking it on here or on Facebook... wow... hard work that like... ya must be knackered... one post yesterday and one today on Facebook and a post on here... Wow... should take a lie down... Tell ya what a don't want to wear you out so when a get in the office tomorrow I will recall my email so you don't have to read that... I would hate to be responsible for you suffering occupational burnout syndrome... And yes it's a thing according to the World Health Organization (WHO), "occupational burnout" is a syndrome resulting from chronic work-related stress, with symptoms characterized by "feelings of energy depletion or exhaustion; increased mental distance from one's job, or feelings of negativism or cynicism related to one's job; and reduced professional efficacy... Sound familiar... Yes?... then ya doing to much hard work... And yes still laughing my toggle off... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Chewbacca said: I guess Seaton Burn will be the remains of the Banks opencast that is just about done. It’s on Viscount Ridley’s land. cramlington continues to expand and might be an excellent catchment area for new fans. Is their not an area at the top end of Arcot Lane where they use for moto-x bikes and stuff?,,, sure it was all legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, NSSG said: Good evening THJ, P. S we are yet to receive the email you previously mention in this thread this evening. Rest assured though, every effort will be made to access it at our earliest convenience. Regards, NSSG Good Morning NSSG As you previously mentioned last night that everything is hard work; therefore so as not to undermine your hard work and not give you to much to do please be advised I have recalled my email to save you the effort of clicking on it to access it or reading it which will give you more rest time before you start the real hard work of typing out another post to stick on Facebook... after all I thought my emailed suggestions were going to "The Management" or "The Promotion" not a Supporters Group as I was under the impression the request came from them rather than the NSSG... However following your post last night you have spiked my interest and I would be grateful if you could find the time in your busy schedule to answer a few questions for me please... First off if one wanted to become a member of the Newcastle Speedway Supporters Group (NSSG) how would one go about this? as I have not seen anything advertised anywhere (unless its on Facebook and as advised I am not on; nor can I have access to; that medium) and I was a former fully paid up member of the Newcastle Diamonds Fan Club both as a Junior and Full Member in the past... So following on from that how much is membership of the NSSG and who do I need to contact to be a member? When does the membership year run from and to; is it January to January or the regular speedway season? Does the NSSG have a Charter? what are they trying to achieve? and what do they do with the funds they raise? and how do they raise funds? and how many current members do the NSSG have... Who is the Chair Person of the NSSG? furthermore who is the Secretary and Treasurer of the group? Are the NSSG a voluntary or non-profit-making organisation and do they follow good auditing practices? Do they have their accounts audited and do they make them available to members to see where the members monies are being used? Is there a process for advising members as to where their monies are being spent? do the club promotion make requests to the NSSG for support? Are any of the Promotion/Management involved in running the NSSG or are the NSSG fully independent of the Promotion/Management? What benefits do NSSG members get once they become a member? Just a few questions I would be grateful for a response to before I consider becoming a member as you will appreciate having open and honest communication leads more quickly to a mutual understanding and respect for a difference in views, interests and needs. ... Simply put, being open and honest builds a sense of self-worth. It is about being moral, truthful to yourself and with others. However stating all that I am not sure if I would want to be a member of something that had me as a member... something for me to consider I suppose... however if you could take some time out of your very busy schedule that you work very hard at and recognising your hard work I would be most humbly grateful if you could give me some answers to my questions... Regards THJ Edited September 3, 2020 by TotallyHonestJohn Missed out word 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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