Justgotmecpc Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 23 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly Me little pal from Workington has been through the mill one way and another lately and we still haven't been down to Shields yet for those fish and chips so I am open to sugestions... once we get a meeting to go to that is... Regards THJ Plenty wet stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 hours ago, foamfence said: Almost 40 miles for home meetings? Very doubtful. Especially in the current situation.. #covid19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Is that the 'townie like Tsunami' who left the TOON exactly 50 years ago, and now lives in Whitley Bay which is as near to Blyth as Brough. There are people linked to Cambois for a possible future track. Dave ya still a townie at heart... you've just climbed off the sofa to fold ya Newcastle top up and put it away for the night after watching ya team win 4 1.... and now sitting reading this with your NUFC jimjams on and drinking ya horlics... and it's still north of where you are at... but you know what I mean... See Mal has just finished his shift... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Thing is is if we did go up the coast to Blyth would we have a name change... the Blyth Bombers or Baracudas or the Cambois Crusaders or Corinthians... or worse still the South Berwick Sodomites mmmmmmmlollololmmmm if ya know what a mean... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) A new venue was looked for years ago and they couldn't find anywhere near(ish) to Brough. Tsunami could tell us all about that! Cambois was looked into, but I can't remember why that was knocked on the head. It's not only finding a place to build a track, there is these days an insurmountable amount of Red Tape to plough through. Exeter springs to mind and they've been looking since 2005 (there are others who have found a place and then got no further, despite all the positive display of public announcements). Oh and as a P.S. Would the BSPA allow a track share? Bearing in mind Cradley and the like have been told they can't run while sharing a track? Edited July 2, 2020 by StevePark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, StevePark said: A new venue was looked for years ago and they couldn't find anywhere near(ish) to Brough. Tsunami could tell us all about that! Cambois was looked into, but I can't remember why that was knocked on the head. It's not only finding a place to build a track, there is these days an insurmountable amount of Red Tape to plough through. Exeter springs to mind and they've been looking since 2005 (there are others who have found a place and then got no further, despite all the positive display of public announcements). Oh and as a P.S. Would the BSPA allow a track share? Bearing in mind Cradley and the like have been told they can't run while sharing a track? Chatting to Daryl Illingworth the other day and he said that the club had been offered a spot by North Tyneside council down by the Tyne Tunnel around 2010 but they did not have the funds or the wherewithal to take the offer up at the time so it was never acted upon... Think Cambois is just a tad to far north of the city and the public transport links are not very reliable; also what would be the back straight runs parallel to the railway line thus not giving any room for back straight viewing if the current dog track was to remain... its an ideal spot being out of the way and of a size that would suit a good track set up plus it is now just training track for the Greyhounds and no longer licensed for dog racing, however logistically it just falls a bit short... If that set up was in say Wallsend or North Shields it would be ideal... (but not Whitley Bay cos they are a bit "snobby" down there; Tsunami could tell us all about that! )... On the track share I think you would/could possibly get a special dispensation for a year if it was to allow for another facility to be built but I doubt you would get the sharing facility long term and to be fair I think it would be financial suicide even if like Cradley you shared with a team in a different league... If it does end up that the club are evicted to make room for Sunday dog racing or if the proposed racing restricts the track access time for preparation to short making a meeting impossible then where do you go is the burning question... there are not that many sites in excess of 10 to 12 acres not to close to housing where you would get complaints and where would the funds come from to build such a set up... Sites that readily spring to mind north of the river are Cramlington around the Nelson and Bassington Trading Estates; Barrington Trading Estate just outside Bedlington; the Tyne Tunnel approach road not far from the Tyne Tunnel Trading Estate and East Howden then out on the A69 by the Throckley Brick Works site and from there out towards Heddon all of which are away from housing and have enough land to fit a Redcar or Scunthorpe type of set up.... Then of course there is the other problem you mention in all the red tape and the big one which is where does the cash come from to fund the new venture... Doesn't make it easy does it... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) I tried for Follingsby Park in 1996, talking to I think Bernard Thorpe Agents? in Jesmond. I knew they had a redundant shale pit heap at the very back of their main site beside Wardley, but not interested and I think they went on to develop it in keeping with the usual trades and activities. BTW, the interest in Cambois is not the dog track. Edited July 2, 2020 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I tried for Follingsby Park in 1996, talking to I think Ian Thorpe Agents? in Jesmond. I knew they had a redundant shale pit heap at the very back of their main site beside Wardley, but not interested and I think they went on to develop it in keeping with the usual trades and activities. BTW, the interest in Cambois is not the dog track. Is it by the MX track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I tried for Follingsby Park in 1996, talking to I think Ian Thorpe Agents? in Jesmond. I knew they had a redundant shale pit heap at the very back of their main site beside Wardley, but not interested and I think they went on to develop it in keeping with the usual trades and activities. BTW, the interest in Cambois is not the dog track. To be fair Dave I don't know when, where or what was looked at in Cambois... I came across the dog track by accident and floated the idea on here... its a cracking site just in the wrong place... but one thing is for sure as Steve Park said it won't be easy getting a suitable site and the relevant permissions to develop it... I just hope the dogs don't go down the route of running Sunday meetings because it will make everything Rob is trying to achieve all that more difficult... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just been looking on Google earth at the cambois track and it seems to be about 100 yds from North Sea so should be lovely and warm all season long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Would any new venue be close to Brough?,,, would any new venue have good public transport links and, how many of the usual crowd use public transport or walk to Brough?,,, Surely there will be some that live local to Brough, but am sure many regulars will travel from further afield? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 23 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Aye since the horse that delivered the milk has died the public transport stopped running as well.. a would say if you didn't have transport it will be an awkward spot to get to... Regards THJ Do the coal trans sri run that line lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Would any new venue be close to Brough?,,, would any new venue have good public transport links and, how many of the usual crowd use public transport or walk to Brough?,,, Surely there will be some that live local to Brough, but am sure many regulars will travel from further afield? There's an area at the bottom of the Fossway to the right of the bottom roundabout, I think it has horses on it. I wonder if that is big enough or/and not on the councils development plan. Secondly, what about the possibility of some of the derelict land that had a Parsons factory building on, and is just lying there with rubble on it. WE considered that for the training school at one time. Edited July 2, 2020 by Tsunami 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tsunami said: There's an area at the bottom of the Fossway to the right of the bottom roundabout, I think it has horses on it. I wonder if that is big enough or/and not on the councils development plan. Secondly, what about the possibility of some of the derelict land that had a Parsons factory building on, and is just lying there with rubble on it. WE considered that for the training school at one time. Vast majority of land that appears derelict is normally owned by the big house builders and they sit on it, it would be tough trying to get any land near Brough. Even if land was available the nimbys will scupper any chance of a speedway track being put on it. The club would have to move future out of the city and into less built up areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: There's an area at the bottom of the Fossway to the right of the bottom roundabout, I think it has horses on it. I wonder if that is big enough or/and not on the councils development plan. Secondly, what about the possibility of some of the derelict land that had a Parsons factory building on, and is just lying there with rubble on it. WE considered that for the training school at one time. It would be very handy for me at & dean at the bottom of the fossway.. but the fella who owns it will never sell as he makes an absolute mint off it the stables !! So let's hope rob has a good plan in the very big pipeline... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Is this Sunday dogs racing definitely happening or is it just my mate heard it off a mate who works at the stadium sort of thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, andys said: Is this Sunday dogs racing definitely happening or is it just my mate heard it off a mate who works at the stadium sort of thing... It's been proposed... and the dog racing piped into the bookies is worth more cash to the owners of the stadium than the Speedway... although they don't have to take up the option it's would seem daft for them to turn down the revenue... Also it needs mentioning that there has been Sunday dogs and Speedway run in the past so it can be done... however Rob wants to run junior sides in the Saphires and the Gems and having a dog meeting on a Sunday will severely impinge on his vision and what he is trying to achieve So a Sunday dog meeting doesn't mean that the Speedway is on the verge of being evicted... however it would put obstacles in the way for a multitude of reasons... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 It seems the business was sold at the right time.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady s 2 Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) i have it on very good authority that if the speedway cant run on a sunday the speedway will not be moving from the venue of brough park but will change race nights and league to premier racing on a monday night .the premiers ship is not the way forward its this or the speedway will close. Edited July 3, 2020 by lady s 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, lady s 2 said: i have it on very good authority that if the speedway cant run on a sunday the speedway will not be moving from the venue of brough park but will change race nights and league to premier racing on a monday night .the premiers ship is not the way forward its this or the speedway will close. Hmm so Newcy are rolling in money are they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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