Ryan555 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, redlead said: Are averages still counted over 2 seasons? Might account for the increase if so. Averages are last 20 meetings so at this point in the season no however I’m not sure the of the exact time of that big increase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyfox Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, IronScorpion said: I would, almost, agree on this but it is NOT a done deal but has been approached to be. Rob said he had approached Somerset with Jake's blessing to buy his contract. Somerset has folded & I think all assets are transferred to the BSP Ltd banner. Rob, also, said talks are still on going for the rules for 2022 & the Premiership & Championship still have to agree team building limits. So, going by what was said, we now own Jake but it is not 100% certain he will be a Scorpion in 2022 (but probably 90%) Yet another reason why the BSPL should be completely independent. Scunny to buy Jake from the BSPL. Who is the chairman of the BSPL. No Bias in that then??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Ryan555 said: Averages are last 20 meetings so at this point in the season no however I’m not sure the of the exact time of that big increase Started 7.07, last month he was 8.15 and ends his season on 7.72 Definitely not a bad season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ryan555 said: Well why would Rob announce it then ? But he did not say the deal was done ? So as they say its not a done deal yet. Wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: Started 7.07, last month he was 8.15 and ends his season on 7.72 Definitely not a bad season Oh yeah i think he’s had a good season cracking rider and from my point of view being a Scunthorpe fan would love him back at scunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berry9 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 hours ago, scunny1 said: Sorry, but its a done deal. Rob and Jake are big mates and the only reason Jake was not a Scorpion this year is because Rob was loyal when he signed Josh Macdonald, to cover for Jake not riding this year. Jake then later changed his mind and Rob being loyal to Josh ,could not renege on his deal to let him ride. Rob then had the gut wrenching task of telling Jake he could not let Josh down, hence his temporary move to Redcar. Jake the snake agreed to rejoin Scunthorpe when he guested for them against Glasgow on 20th June one day after a rubbishe performance for the Bears at Leicester, he also told the Scorpions faithful in a Q+A session after the Redcar meeting that he would back next year. I personally feel zero malice towards him and I hope he delivers for us against Edinburgh. We lost Eric Riss in a similar fashion and I hope he returns for us next season. I know he hasn't had a good season with King's Lynn or Birmingham but form is temporary while class is permanent. Jake is a fantastic rider and I thank him for the the season he rode for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 Not quite what was said. Rob Godfrey joked to Jake that if he scored like he did against us again ,he would not be riding for us next year. Jake scored 14+1 in our home meeting ,then went on to score 15 points at your home meeting later in the season. So Jake took little notice of Rob's tongue in cheek, jokey threat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 18 hours ago, slyfox said: Yet another reason why the BSPL should be completely independent. Scunny to buy Jake from the BSPL. Who is the chairman of the BSPL. No Bias in that then??? Everybody else would have had a chance if they had shown an interest to the BSP Ltd & Jake himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Everybody else would have had a chance if they had shown an interest to the BSP Ltd & Jake himself. Rider ‘ ownership ‘ is a controversial subject. All riders are self employed and therefore legally free to work for who they wish, speedway is running an outdated system which, if legally challenged , would be thrown out. Never seen the point in ‘ owning ‘ riders you don’t intend to use even if you class them as club ‘ assets ‘ , which is only in place so the BSPL can rake in some funds if you go bust. Whilst some senior clubs literally own dozens of riders contracts and therefore assets, most of them will have retired or never going to be used by the owning club just used to bring in loan fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 23 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Rider ‘ ownership ‘ is a controversial subject. All riders are self employed and therefore legally free to work for who they wish, speedway is running an outdated system which, if legally challenged , would be thrown out. Never seen the point in ‘ owning ‘ riders you don’t intend to use even if you class them as club ‘ assets ‘ , which is only in place so the BSPL can rake in some funds if you go bust. Whilst some senior clubs literally own dozens of riders contracts and therefore assets, most of them will have retired or never going to be used by the owning club just used to bring in loan fees. Yes but think of the 'loan fees' income!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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