ray c Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Not convinced Manzares will ever make it big in the sport and feel would struggle just as he did some years ago. Maybe should stay with the change of career he embarked on. Think there are better options even at this stage. lots of riders will not make it big in the sport but you still need that type of riders when teams are run on averages ps gino not riding uk this year coming 2021 apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 I thought Manzares was coming over for a couple of weeks at the start of the season to showcase his pitch at a few tracks including Poole for a 2021 team place?! The Kurtz and Middleditch families are very close so anything is possible there. Interesting article in the SS this week which reckons Poole only have 8.25 points left to play with??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I thought Manzares was coming over for a couple of weeks at the start of the season to showcase his pitch at a few tracks including Poole for a 2021 team place?! The Kurtz and Middleditch families are very close so anything is possible there. Interesting article in the SS this week which reckons Poole only have 8.25 points left to play with??!! Hmmm. I've been checking the stats over and again the last 6/8 weeks as per the final and official GSA sheets and with our 4 Brits getting their 2.5% reductions (which I assume they still do ??), then we were left with 8.97. That's why Bjerre on a bargain 5.87 and Bowtell on 3.10 (or 3.02 with the 2.5%) fitted so perfectly into that total. Also the alleged move for Grondal on 5.04 IF he could have got a 2019 injury reduction would have got him to 4.91 leaving 4.06 which left the door open for another young Aussie or say Kennedy/Keleher on 4. I assume that Grondal did not qualify for the reduction which perhaps why such a move was dropped. Unless Grondal was a big smoke screen ??. If it really was 8.25 then that really would mess us up IF Kurtz was being considered on his FULL 5.43 as only leaves 2.82 for a N/L rookie/young rider. More likely to force us down the 2 x 4 point addl Aussie route. Can't be right - can it ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 If you can fit him in zaine would be a good one to get looked very promising at Sheffield in the young guns meeting a couple of years ago . Did nt have too bad a season last year to say it was his 1st full year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, r8gdp said: If you can fit him in zaine would be a good one to get looked very promising at Sheffield in the young guns meeting a couple of years ago . Did nt have too bad a season last year to say it was his 1st full year Think Kennedy was a bit miffed he was not asked back in 2020 after a promising first season, BUT they did move up and with the points conv Champ to Prem they went for the more experienced rider in Kurtz who comes in low with his GSA after the conv. If you look at that video where he overtook both Wells & Pickering at Sheffield and factor in the club must have seen something to make him rider of the season despite only a 4 point first season GSA - The fact he is only 21, I am surprised another team didn't go for him. Could develop like Jordan Stewart or may be anything going forward. Throw him in the reserve slot and consider how he would do against the other reserves named for 2020. If you look at the 2020 Champ teams reserves on the SGP site I think he would beat most if not all of them in most meeting. There are a lot of young inexperienced reserves in their and some not so young, so a rider of his ability could score well and boost confidence going forward. Bearing in mind he also only came over part way thru last season and finished as No. 2 in the side. Just my opinion of course. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Also on Kennedy, I didnt realise that he was injured at one stage riding for Sheff so missed a number of meetings. Worth looking at Zaine Kennedy Racing FB page and scrolling back, as there are some decent races with him on there going back to Mar/April and he scored both decent points plus beat some decent riders. I can see why they say he is a never give up rider. Think I am convincing myself here that he could be a decent rider given an injury free run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Hmmm. I've been checking the stats over and again the last 6/8 weeks as per the final and official GSA sheets and with our 4 Brits getting their 2.5% reductions (which I assume they still do ??), then we were left with 8.97. That's why Bjerre on a bargain 5.87 and Bowtell on 3.10 (or 3.02 with the 2.5%) fitted so perfectly into that total. Also the alleged move for Grondal on 5.04 IF he could have got a 2019 injury reduction would have got him to 4.91 leaving 4.06 which left the door open for another young Aussie or say Kennedy/Keleher on 4. I assume that Grondal did not qualify for the reduction which perhaps why such a move was dropped. Unless Grondal was a big smoke screen ??. If it really was 8.25 then that really would mess us up IF Kurtz was being considered on his FULL 5.43 as only leaves 2.82 for a N/L rookie/young rider. More likely to force us down the 2 x 4 point addl Aussie route. Can't be right - can it ????? The Star does like to use CMAs rather than GSAs so who knows?! Plus of course we are all still using the 2019 racing regs as the 2020 version is not public yet!! Edited January 9, 2020 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Well if Drabik gets a ban. Anyone up for Drabik on a 4.00 : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 With the news of Härtel going to lynn what about Fienhage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, TurnTwo said: With the news of Härtel going to lynn what about Fienhage? Can't see it somehow and would be a risky 5 pointer anyway. I see he has signed contracts in Swe/Germany and also in POL Lge 2 for 2020. Add in his interest in Longtrack plus all the U21 meetings as he still qualifies for being 20. Can't see him fitting in UK even if there was interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, TurnTwo said: With the news of Härtel going to lynn what about Fienhage? Couldn't Hartel double down? He's only 21 y.o. His final 2018 Championship average with Ippo was 5.20* (*assessed) but he only did a few meetings before getting injured in LongTrack!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Couldn't Hartel double down? He's only 21 y.o. His final 2018 Championship average with Ippo was 5.20* (*assessed) but he only did a few meetings before getting injured in LongTrack!! I assume he could. But in the 5 meetings he did ride he did only av 4 per meeting. 4.32 at home and 3.5 away. I see on his FB page he has signed up for 4 Leagues in 2020. The Danish - Both 1st and 2nd Div German Leagues & now KL in UK. May not want to take on a 32 Champ season plus KO Cup and poss play offs if he will also do other meetings on the Cont riding maybe for Germany as well ?? I think that's the problem with a lot of these promising young Continental riders. They can get contracts in POL/DK/Ger/SWE (especially with some of the top riders not doing SWE) and not have to fly in and out of the UK on top.A lot of these places they drive to as good road connections as well using local ferries and bridge connections between DK & SWE. Shame we could not have secured the likes of Hansen/Jeppesen/Kvech who are all better riders. Hansen seemed so close but I heard he could not find a mechanic as was ready to come over. Maybe it also only works for them financially for the bigger money in the Prem rather than Champ ??. Even some of the young Aussies we have been talking about seem happy to base in POL/DK and ride continent only before trying to jump into the Prem when good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 3:41 PM, Arthur54 said: Back in the old national league days Poole always had the knack of unearthing some quality from down under, no reason why we can't do it again Who???????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: A lot of these places they drive to, as good road connections as well using local ferries and bridge connections There is the Chunnel. I don't think they're going to fill it in now we've (nearly) left the EU. Alright. I'll get my coat (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Trackrat said: Who???????? Langdon,Adams,Boyce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Langdon,Adams,Boyce. Also Gary Allan ( New Zealand I know) Mark Lemon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: Also Gary Allan ( New Zealand I know) Mark Lemon. Not forgetting a certain Jason Crump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, scottyfan said: Not forgetting a certain Jason Crump That was 91 tho wasn't it ? , so top league by then.. i remember seeing him as a wobbler in the second half against Cradley that year or even possibly 92 - na 91 i reckon. Edited January 11, 2020 by The Doctor... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 1992 was his first season, at Peterborough wasn’t it? Increased his average massively and they won the league. Then he was at Swindon in 93 and Poole in 94 when he made the World Final! Rapid progress in those early years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) REMINDER: Pirates Riders Equipment Fund (R.E.F.) Speedway quiznight is next Wednesday 15th January at the Stadium. New Club Captain Danny King will be there as will Co-Promoter Danny Ford who will be making two major announcements!!?? Will it be the 2 remaining riders or clarification on the Team Manager and Main Sponsor for 2020?? Edited January 11, 2020 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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