DC2 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Nah, just Poole starting their usual twisting. Keep an eye on them CL fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) DC2. Poole are now in a lower league. Swindon are champions. Fact. Poole have won far more Top league titles than Swindon. Fact Swindon in theChampionship (equivalent) were great entertainment. My family went every week. Speedway is a great sport and I trust Swindon will carry on the great work Rosco has done. ExExeter Weymouth and Poole with a Poole wife) About time you spent more time on your own team I think but only my opinion. anyway, Merry Christmas. Edited December 10, 2019 by Sherborne Green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, DC2 said: Nah, just Poole starting their usual twisting. Keep an eye on them CL fans! Havnt you got a team to support DC. Clearly Gavan has competition for the amount of posts you put on a Poole thread. Its almost become an obsession with you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Sherborne Green said: DC2. Poole are now in a lower league. Swindon are campions. Fact. Poole have won far more Top league titles than Swindon. Fact Swindon in theChampionship (equivalent) were great entertainment. My family went every week. Speedway is a great sport and I trust Swindon will carry on the great work Rosco has done. ExExeterweyouth and Poole with a Poole wife) About time you spent more time on your own team I think but only my opinion. anyway, Merry Christmas. Great post. Except the bottom 3 words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Thanks & Merry Xmas all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 21 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Of course as a Swindon fan who has gloated over Poole dropping to the Champ on many occasions during these cold/dark/Winter days, I assume you of course would not want any advantage for Poole be it legal or not. Fact is that all 3 riders you name rode multiple meetings for their sides from the UK season start 2019 before injury intervened. It could be argued (and I am not for one minute say its true or fact) that Grondal was NOT fit or recovered from his serious 2018 injury to start or be considered for a full UK season starting in March but had recovered a little more to do a restricted season in DK starting in May. Depends on what you classify as injured. One of the reports of his crash at Peterborough stated he received a fractured pelvis - badly bruised ribs - Muscle damage and a blood clot. A further update from hospital stated he also had a punctured lung plus internal bleeding. Perhaps enough there to have put any rider off going for a comprehensive speedway schedule in order to fully recover from such nasty injuries. Don't forget he only did some meetings in DK NOT a full schedule. I assume he is in Aussie trying to recover some fitness again for a 2020 fuller schedule. I am sure Matt Ford is not trying to cheat the system - merely working to the rules IF Grondal is entitled to a reduction under the injured rider rule IF it applies for when the 2019 UK season started. In this case Grondal did not start the season or take part in any pert of it. No doubt we will only find out if Grondal is actually signed and then if we get a 4 pointer in the the reserve slot. Only then we will probably find out that he recvd the ok from the relevant authorities to sign him on a small reduction. If not then I assume a N/L rider will be filling that last slot. You are sure Matt Ford is not trying to cheat the system you are having a laugh he is well known for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Cheat the system? Never! Use the rules to suit his club? Yes 100% - and usually does it before any of the other promoters have thought of it!! Very clever imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Cheat the system? Never! Use the rules to suit his club? Yes 100% - and usually does it before any of the other promoters have thought of it!! Very clever imo. Ah, that reminds me of the fit Joe Screen ordered by Matt to sit in the stands at the Abbey ten years ago and Bjarne having unfortunate engine failures just so Poole could reduce their team average and get a better rider in. 2009, what a vintage year for cheating that was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, DC2 said: Ah, that reminds me of the fit Joe Screen ordered by Matt to sit in the stands at the Abbey ten years ago and Bjarne having unfortunate engine failures just so Poole could reduce their team average and get a better rider in. 2009, what a vintage year for cheating that was. Sorry?! Remind me where Poole finished in 2009!!! Anything Poole may have tried certainly didn't give them any advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Sorry?! Remind me where Poole finished in 2009!!! Anything Poole may have tried certainly didn't give them any advantage. Don't matter if it worked or not. Irrelevant, it's the intent as you know Skidder, if it did happen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Sorry?! Remind me where Poole finished in 2009!!! Anything Poole may have tried certainly didn't give them any advantage. So when Poole cheat/bend the rules its totally fine as long as they dont gain from it lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Gavan said: So when Poole cheat/bend the rules its totally fine as long as they dont gain from it lol No no no you miss the point! Using the rules to your advantage is fine if you do gain from it!! Its a bit of a waste of time if you don't! lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Using loopholes isn't cheating. I've seen all team managers try it this last year or so. It's annoying but not cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: No no no you miss the point! Using the rules to your advantage is fine if you do gain from it!! Its a bit of a waste of time if you don't! lol 59 minutes ago, sugarray said: Using loopholes isn't cheating. I've seen all team managers try it this last year or so. It's annoying but not cheating. Which is why for some years there has been a call for the rules to be rewritten from scratch, and preferably by an independent body. The constant poorly worded amendments and addendums give rise to loopholes. It’s interesting to see that people think rules are always ‘bad things’ whereas the intention is just to set out the terms and restrictions under which the sport is to be run. The rules aren’t there to punish you, they are (meant to be) there to assist you by setting out what is mandatory and what is allowable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, sugarray said: Using loopholes isn't cheating. I've seen all team managers try it this last year or so. It's annoying but not cheating. But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. We lived with Ian Thomas's expert shenanigans for years in the second tier. I doubt whether Poole will be anything like their tier 1 version, well at least for a while..... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, RobMcCaffery said: We lived with Ian Thomas's expert shenanigans for years in the second tier. I doubt whether Poole will be anything like their tier 1 version, well at least for a while..... Don’t you bet on it. They’ll be doing it already, signing their team! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, DC2 said: But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. Strange!! I can't quite remember what punishment the Pirates received? Oh but of course, they didn't!! Real Cheating is when a team calls off a meeting due to 'a waterlogged track', when despite photographic evidence to the contrary and the fact they would be missing their number 1 rider was the real reason!! And they got understandably punished for it!! Edited December 12, 2019 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Strange!! I can't quite remember what punishment the Pirates received? Oh but of course, they didn't!! Real Cheating is when a team calls off a meeting due to 'a waterlogged track', when despite photographic evidence to the contrary and the fact they would be missing their number 1 rider was the real reason!! And they got understandably punished for it!! The fact that Poole were investigated by the BSPA on that occasion and that the allegation was found “unproven” by the closed, smoke filled room of the BSPA, rather than them being declared innocent spoke volumes. We who were there saw what happened, whether the BSPA wished to admit it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: The fact that Poole were investigated by the BSPA on that occasion and that the allegation was found “unproven” by the closed, smoke filled room of the BSPA, rather than them being declared innocent spoke volumes. We who were there saw what happened, whether the BSPA wished to admit it or not. Ah so just your 'unbiased' opinion then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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