Jaizer Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Wording I read was it was deadline for changes other than injured riders returning. Would hope get dispensation for an injury occurring after the cut off though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Hmm, not sure. Having a feeling we will have to use guests. Who exactly is available on that average anyways if we were allowed to sign someone? Edited September 2, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Wording I read was it was deadline for changes other than injured riders returning. Would hope get dispensation for an injury occurring after the cut off though The cut-off date is there for a reason, don't see why clubs would be allowed special dispensation to break it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: The cut-off date is there for a reason, don't see why clubs would be allowed special dispensation to break it! Because it's not a strengthening move and as so many people always complain about on here the amount of guests nowadays is a joke!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: The cut-off date is there for a reason, don't see why clubs would be allowed special dispensation to break it! Cos an injury is different to changing a team cos of bad form! Depends what the rules say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Because it's not a strengthening move and as so many people always complain about on here the amount of guests nowadays is a joke!! If that's the case then the rule should be Aug 31st for transfers, unless a rider has a season ending injury! But that's not the rule! Surely the rule makers, when deciding on the cut-off date, realised a rider could get injured on 1st Sep and with no replacement allowed will have to use guests? Must've been ok with it? Why else would the rule be voted in? Edited September 2, 2021 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: The cut-off date is there for a reason, don't see why clubs would be allowed special dispensation to break it! It’s there to stop riders strengthening for the playoffs. Teams in the past had pilfered riders from other teams to give them a boost in the playoffs. However, if a rider picks up an obvious season ending injury, it is surely better that he is replaced than using guests every meeting. Poole can use horses for courses guests but it’s not the same. Stefan is clearly out for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Just now, szkocjasid said: If that's the case then the rule should be Aug 31st for transfers, unless a rider has a season ending injury! But that's not the rule! I'm guessing the rule makers, when deciding on the cut-off date realised a rider could get injured on 1st Sep and with no replacement allowed will have to use guests are were ok with it? Why else would the rule be voted in? To stop a team reaching the play offs then saying someone's out of form so I'll sign that guy from Plymouth, other from Berwick etc to STRENGTHEN their team. Not a like for like replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 In the past a injured rider could be replaced by a guest, but only from a team not involved in the playoffs, but because it's Poole probably some new rule will be invented allowing Tai, bartoz or laguta to be a guest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Neila said: In the past a injured rider could be replaced by a guest, but only from a team not involved in the playoffs, but because it's Poole probably some new rule will be invented allowing Tai, bartoz or laguta to be a guest Sounds fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 What is stefans average ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: What is stefans average ? 4.51 acc to Skidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 The problem with allowing a signing for an injured rider after the cut off is who determines they're injured? Aarnio is no longer featuring for Scunthorpe but is riding elsewhere, but a magical sick note is being used in the UK. Any team could do the same to strengthen if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: The problem with allowing a signing for an injured rider after the cut off is who determines they're injured? Aarnio is no longer featuring for Scunthorpe but is riding elsewhere, but a magical sick note is being used in the UK. Any team could do the same to strengthen if needed The hospital? I think if you stay overnight in hospital then you are pretty injured. A sick note is when you are ill? And you get suspended for that anyway! Edited September 3, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, lisa-colette said: The hospital? I think if you stay overnight in hospital then you are pretty injured. There will of course be legitimate cases. But some of the sick notes used in speedway are laughable! What I'm saying is it's open to manipulation. "Overnight" in a foreign hospital can be written be anyone with a blurry business card pretending to be a doctor! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Marshall07 said: There will of course be legitimate cases. But some of the sick notes used in speedway are laughable! What I'm saying is it's open to manipulation. "Overnight" in a foreign hospital can be written be anyone with a blurry business card pretending to be a doctor! Well yes there is that. I still have a feeling we will have to use guests for rest of the season. Maybe the SCB or BSPA chairman can send a doctor for a home visit..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 hours ago, lisa-colette said: 4.51 acc to Skidder. and the latest GSA stats on BSPL website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: It’s there to stop riders strengthening for the playoffs. Teams in the past had pilfered riders from other teams to give them a boost in the playoffs. The obvious guilty party being Poole, who signed the World Champion for the play offs in 2013 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, *JJ said: The obvious guilty party being Poole, who signed the World Champion for the play offs in 2013 ... That was still for an injured rider!! Chris Holder I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: and the latest GSA stats on BSPL website. Well yes, I assumed you got it from somewhere official 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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