ray c Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: But the vac rollout is scheduled to finish in autumn. If I was you get ready to be disappointed, no Speedway until late in the year, maybe non like last year (except for a few events). BSPA should be planning for different scenarios including full season and a very short season. If it’s a short season meaning meetings twice a week, are people going to be able to afford £20 plus per meeting? Streaming will be a necessity, with £8 max, but Speedway promoted to encourage more viewers. i see what you are saying. if the government dont get people spending money soon as a country we will be bankrupt . catch twenty two situation i reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Assuming we get some speedway with some crowds at some point, does Swindon's decision mean that Poole can use Adam Ellis after all?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Assuming we get some speedway with some crowds at some point, does Swindon's decision mean that Poole can use Adam Ellis after all?! Maybe in the top flight? as I'm sure Adam will look to move top flight team if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Been quite a while since I have been on except occasional look in. If I recall, last I saw was that the Fords were supposed to be negotiating with the Stadium owners to see IF they would allow them to race on the now virtually disused Stadium in 2022 after the owners near enough permanently removed Greyhound racing. Saw comments about possibility racing may be allowed but without use of restaurant facilities etc but can't recall seeing anything definitive. Does anyone know anything definitive on the position or is it that there is still a doubt that racing will ever be allowed back with what was back then talk of possible redevelopment of the site even though there was supposed to be a facility for sporting activity allowed. Excuse if I am wrong as the only comments seen recently are from contributors who indicate as if we are going to be racing. Maybe I have missed news ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Been quite a while since I have been on except occasional look in. If I recall, last I saw was that the Fords were supposed to be negotiating with the Stadium owners to see IF they would allow them to race on the now virtually disused Stadium in 2022 after the owners near enough permanently removed Greyhound racing. Saw comments about possibility racing may be allowed but without use of restaurant facilities etc but can't recall seeing anything definitive. Does anyone know anything definitive on the position or is it that there is still a doubt that racing will ever be allowed back with what was back then talk of possible redevelopment of the site even though there was supposed to be a facility for sporting activity allowed. Excuse if I am wrong as the only comments seen recently are from contributors who indicate as if we are going to be racing. Maybe I have missed news ?? Danny Ford has announced publicly today that Pirates still intend to run in the 2021 Championship - whatever the agreed format at tomorrow's AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Danny Ford has announced publicly today that Pirates still intend to run in the 2021 Championship - whatever the agreed format at tomorrow's AGM. Hi Skidder Thanks, have just read the Echo article. However he has intimated that, as has his dad for months if I recall. This at least clarifies the position in respect of fielding a team. It doesn't clarify though if he has successfully negotiated that the stadium can be used ongoing in 2021 to continue racing. Last i can remember that had to still be done as there was uncertainty on what facilities may or may not be available as also the case on staffing levels if any ?? The last article I saw said there were still many months before they had to conclude/complete that discussion. Just a bit concerned that as the stadium owners no longer have the more lucrative Greyhound racing there any more, if there may be a more ulteria motive to turn it into commercial or housing development in the long term which would be far more lucrative for them IF they could get around the covenant regarding having to offer a sports facility ?? Hopefully not, but having witnessed as a born & bred East Londoner so many Speedway venues/stadia closed over the last 50 years including my more local and last surviving Lakeside and add more recently the now bulldozing at Rye House then I am wary of all of these Stadium/Land owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Danny Ford has announced publicly today that Pirates still intend to run in the 2021 Championship - whatever the agreed format at tomorrow's AGM. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/19004656.ford-says-pirates-committed-compete-2021/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 So with the new rules announced which Poole rider loses his place ??. Will it be Ben Cook as Kelleher has high media profile and invested a lot of money in equip Josh Mac seems fairly settled when in UK. Also is Adam Ellis situation resolved on whether he will even be riding UK with the new Polish Rules. Isn't he committed to POL/SWE/DK ?? Wonder who the young Brit will be bearing in mind most of the decent ones were already signed up by most of the others as Poole chose the Aussie route. Finally and nobody has answered this question when I put it on the forum recently. Danny Ford has announced he intends to put a team out in 2021 BUT and it is a big BUT, has he actually reached an agreement with the Stadium owners on whether they actually will agree to let Poole ace on at the Stadium, bearing in mind the main revenue driver (Greyhounds) have stopped and most of the facilities either won't or maybe won't be available in future Main restaurant/food outlets/Stadium Staff etc. Still have my reservations on whether its the owners intentions to somehow try and get around any covenants to try and get the site redeveloped. When Matt Ford went public later part of last year after Greyhound closure he was bullish about going into negotiations with maybe consortia to maybe discuss taking over the Stadium or having positive discussion outcomes on having speedway continue there. Have seen nothing in the media to my knowledge informing how that went. Or if it was concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: So with the new rules announced which Poole rider loses his place ??. Will it be Ben Cook as Kelleher has high media profile and invested a lot of money in equip Josh Mac seems fairly settled when in UK. Also is Adam Ellis situation resolved on whether he will even be riding UK with the new Polish Rules. Isn't he committed to POL/SWE/DK ?? Wonder who the young Brit will be bearing in mind most of the decent ones were already signed up by most of the others as Poole chose the Aussie route. Finally and nobody has answered this question when I put it on the forum recently. Danny Ford has announced he intends to put a team out in 2021 BUT and it is a big BUT, has he actually reached an agreement with the Stadium owners on whether they actually will agree to let Poole ace on at the Stadium, bearing in mind the main revenue driver (Greyhounds) have stopped and most of the facilities either won't or maybe won't be available in future Main restaurant/food outlets/Stadium Staff etc. Still have my reservations on whether its the owners intentions to somehow try and get around any covenants to try and get the site redeveloped. When Matt Ford went public later part of last year after Greyhound closure he was bullish about going into negotiations with maybe consortia to maybe discuss taking over the Stadium or having positive discussion outcomes on having speedway continue there. Have seen nothing in the media to my knowledge informing how that went. Or if it was concluded. With fixtures due out in a matter of days, I doubt Danny or Matt will announce them without some sort of firm agreement with Stadia UK as well as the backing of BCP Council? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Nathan Stoneman is available as the number 7 as Somerset aren't racing, would be very strong judging by what everyone else is rumoured to have down there And if Adam Ellis is not available, you'd have 10.77 to replace him... Can one of their Aussies from the Elite days fit in there? Or maybe a double change, with either Zane, Josh or Stefan losing their place... Poole won't field a team 2.97 under the limit... Edited January 21, 2021 by Dandelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Dandelion said: Nathan Stoneman is available as the number 7 as Somerset aren't racing, would be very strong judging by what everyone else is rumoured to have down there And if Adam Ellis is not available, you'd have 10.77 to replace him... Can one of their Aussies from the Elite days fit in there? Or maybe a double change, with either Zane, Josh or Stefan losing their place... Poole won't field a team 2.97 under the limit... What would Chris Holder’s converted average be?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Dandelion said: Nathan Stoneman is available as the number 7 as Somerset aren't racing, would be very strong judging by what everyone else is rumoured to have down there And if Adam Ellis is not available, you'd have 10.77 to replace him... Can one of their Aussies from the Elite days fit in there? Or maybe a double change, with either Zane, Josh or Stefan losing their place... Poole won't field a team 2.97 under the limit... Might depend on whether Stefan is on the 'Rising Star' list?? Also Ben Cook may be at risk especially as brother Zach won't be at Somerset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, scottyfan said: What would Chris Holder’s converted average be?.. Depends what his 2017 average of 7.16 converts to and/or what reduction the BSPL would agree to?! Quite apart from what leagues he is already committed to? Edited January 21, 2021 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Depends what his 2017 average of 7.16 converts to and/or what reduction the BSPL would agree to?! Quite apart from what leagues he is already committed to? Now Chris Holder would be a massive signing and statement - But unsure of his converted average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm sure Chris Holder will be riding in Poland though, so would rule him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Depends what his 2017 average of 7.16 converts to and/or what reduction the BSPL would agree to?! Quite apart from what leagues he is already committed to? Chris has contracts with Torun and Indianerna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Might depend on whether Stefan is on the 'Rising Star' list?? Also Ben Cook may be at risk especially as brother Zach won't be at Somerset? You feel like it must currently be a miserable time in the Cook household? ........funny im sure thats been said a few times before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I'm sure Chris Holder will be riding in Poland though, so would rule him out? From Championship racing pretty much yes - as I would imagine it would be hard to accommodate his Friday or Sunday league commitments in Poland vs the away tracks in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Najjer said: From Championship racing pretty much yes - as I would imagine it would be hard to accommodate his Friday or Sunday league commitments in Poland vs the away tracks in the Championship. I may have missed some movements but... IF Ellis was not racing UK Champ and with Somerset not riding (as well as Swindon). What possibilities of squeezing in Anders Rowe (if not already signed up elsewhere). Remember he was due to ride I believe Swind & Somerset and also what about Rory Schlien ??. Anders is arguably one of the top 4/5 British youngsters coming through. Maybe top 2/3 ?? Rider to go Ben Cook but with his brother Zach losing Somerset maybe not keen to come on his own to Uk anyway ?? Thoughts ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Danny is saying one change only?! which is a little strange what with the Ellis situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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