pugwash Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 12:22 AM, RobMcCaffery said: It's a matter of frequency and severity rather than exclusivity ;-) Michael Green stated in 'The Art of Coarse Golf';- "If you're cheating and still losing, then your opponent is cheating more than you". 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 hours ago, pugwash said: Michael Green stated in 'The Art of Coarse Golf';- "If you're cheating and still losing, then your opponent is cheating more than you". As no doubt several hundred athletes and cyclists around the globe will agree... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Great to see Chris Holder down to ride in middlos testimonial 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 As Poole have 3 riders on. 4 pt average any inkling on which rider will be in the main body of the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: As Poole have 3 riders on. 4 pt average any inkling on which rider will be in the main body of the side All of them at some point hopefully?! Not yet decided until the boys arrive in UK and have their initial chat with Middlo. Of course there is a bit of a risk but hey ho, its not how you start its how you finish!! My own thoughts are that Josh Mac will start in the 1-5 with Zane and Ben at reserve. Although I believe Zane will prove to be the better prospect over time. Both the latest signings had their visas come through yesterday so its full steam ahead with 2 new club assets. Incidentally an excellent turn out at last nights REF quiz night again (17 teams taking part but there can be only one winner ), with a telephone interview with Stevie Worrall and interview with Danny Ford who advised that 6 of the 7 team race suits have been sponsored - the last one expected to be done imminently. Also news about a new main sponsor is hopefully expected in the next 2 weeks?! The next REF event is a 'Middlo & Friends' chat show-style evening on Wednesday 18th March just prior to P&P day on 20th Edited February 13, 2020 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9100 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I reckon it will be something like this to start with (but what do I know) 1. King 2. Zane 3. Worrall 4. Nielsen 5. Ellis 6. Josh 7. Cook 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, daz9100 said: I reckon it will be something like this to start with (but what do I know) 1. King 2. Zane 3. Worrall 4. Nielsen 5. Ellis 6. Josh 7. Cook Id say that looks good need 1 reserve with track experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Paddy The Rebel said: Id say that looks good need 1 reserve with track experience we haven't got one though .im afraid hopefully one of the lads will step up straight away Edited February 13, 2020 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, ray c said: we haven't got one though .im afraid hopefully one of the lads will step up straight away Maybe not Poole track experience but Josh MacDonald has plenty of Championship track experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Maybe not Poole track experience but Josh MacDonald has plenty of Championship track experience Yes maybe I just read it wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, daz9100 said: I reckon it will be something like this to start with (but what do I know) 1. King 2. Zane 3. Worrall 4. Nielsen 5. Ellis 6. Josh 7. Cook Nothing or everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, daz9100 said: I reckon it will be something like this to start with (but what do I know) 1. King 2. Zane 3. Worrall 4. Nielsen 5. Ellis 6. Josh 7. Cook When it’s laid out like that, it looks a really weak team but I assume that the predictions of greatness for Poole in 2020 are dependent on some (most? all?) of the above list being replaced during the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: When it’s laid out like that, it looks a really weak team but I assume that the predictions of greatness for Poole in 2020 are dependent on some (most? all?) of the above list being replaced during the year. who with I think this league will be harder to replace than the premiership is just my opinion of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 agree, big season changing replacements arent around(usually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: When it’s laid out like that, it looks a really weak team but I assume that the predictions of greatness for Poole in 2020 are dependent on some (most? all?) of the above list being replaced during the year. Why does having 3 x 2019 Championship number 1s make it look really weak? Neilsen and MacDonald have Championship track knowledge and experience and Cook has at least seen a number of tracks when he was staying with Middlo for several weeks last summer. Keleher is that much older and has had offers from Poland but wants to do his 'apprenticeship' in UK first. Play-offs first is always the initial target for Poole. Edited February 13, 2020 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Why does having 3 x 2019 Championship number 1s make it look really weak? Neilsen and MacDonald have Championship track knowledge and experience and Cook has at least seen a number of tracks when he was staying with Middlo for several weeks last summer. Keleher is that much older and has had offers from Poland but wants to do his 'apprenticeship' in UK first. Play-offs first is always the initial target for Poole. I know you’re the great defender but.....the three number ones were only 7th, 17th and 20th in the top 20 riders by GSA in last year’s Championship. It would be easy to spin each individual rider, or to do them down, but I won’t do that. And I don’t think there will be any lack of effort from the team. But my opinion, and that’s all it is, is that Poole’s starting 1-7 is too top heavy and will therefore be vulnerable to better balanced teams. Edited February 13, 2020 by Wee Eck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Wee Eck said: I know you’re the great defender but.....the three number ones were only 7th, 17th and 20th in the top 20 riders by GSA in last year’s Championship. It would be easy to spin each individual rider, or to do them down, but I won’t do that. And I don’t think there will be any lack of effort from the team. By my opinion, and that’s all it is, is that Poole’s starting 1-7 is too top heavy and will therefore be vulnerable to better balanced teams. each one of our top three can come in at any time with a low score there stats says so I can see where you are coming from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, ray c said: each one of our top three can come in at any time with a low score there stats says so I can see where you are coming from As I said, I’m not doing anyone down but your point is valid. I suspect that lack of involvement with and, truthfully, interest in the lower league and its riders, has caught the Poole management out. Without changes, the Pirates will be nowhere near the play-offs. But, if league structures stay the same, I’d expect them to come storming back in 2021. Meanwhile, the Poole faithful are in for some exciting racing as the fearless young riders, coming through from the British Youth Championship strive to prove they’ve got what it takes, and the old heads show those young whippersnappers that experience isn’t easily overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I dont think are team is that weak we have 3 no1 riders plus nielsen on a false average imo,hes been capable of 7 average a couple of seasons ago so if he gets to a 6 id be happy then you just need1 of the lower end riders to find his feet then your ok,think poole will be around play offs,think leicester will be the target this year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 When Nielsen reached a 7 average, he was riding at no2 when off the inside gates in heat 1, he generally came 1st or 2nd. Add to that heat 8 where he, also, came 1st or 2nd a lot. He was, also, riding with a guest at no1 who, mostly, were poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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