DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, RS50 said: 10 week season? How will they fit in all the matches when they have loads of fixtures are post poned because football is on the telly??? Postponed? Why? All you need is fixture management, with all PL teams willing to ride on a Mon or a Thurs as necessary. That would cover rain offs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 52 weeks in a year and we’re proposing a 10 week “season”? LOL, no. That’s one long long long off season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 There is scope to make it last 3 or 4 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Prefer mid April till end of Aug with the playoffs in Sept, 18 weeks of league racing, then playoffs and whatever comp the rest of the league want in Sept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, DC2 said: Postponed? Why? All you need is fixture management, with all PL teams willing to ride on a Mon or a Thurs as necessary. That would cover rain offs too. 2018 fixtures called off because of football world cup. 2019 fixture called off due to that Liverpool Tottenham match. Presume England will be in next year's football European cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Supersub said: Let's be sensible, May to September makes sense Or even start April, Play Offs end of September. 1 match home and away. adopt the Polish system of play offs for top half of the table and bottom half. a 10 week season is beyond crazy and none workable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Or even start April, Play Offs end of September. 1 match home and away. adopt the Polish system of play offs for top half of the table and bottom half. a 10 week season is beyond crazy and none workable. “1 match home and away over six months” - how many teams in your league, Steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: “1 match home and away over six months” - how many teams in your league, Steve? Assuming 8 teams....... 7 home matches 7 away matches ——————— top half/bottom half split 3 home 3 away ————————— play offs for top 4 - 1 or 2 extra matches bottom 4 race for positions 5-8. Giving at least 2 extra matches. thats 12 home matches race every other week = 6 months. add in a KO Cup competition or inter league competition if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: What if they say "less is more so let's call it £25 to watch speedway" as it's only a dozen meetings people will pay it I'm not entirely sure they would to be honest, I think cost is actually one of the major factors behind why crowds are falling so increasing it to silly amounts would probably kill it completely within a season or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Could one answer to the question of a condensed season for conventional speedway be for teams to run using current machines and call it formula one and those clubs who want to see costs reduced adopt the formula 2 machines. I guess most riders have more than one bike so to have a high spec machine for F1 and an F2 machine costing less in maintenance etc. could be a way to keep riders happy with regular meetings from an income perspective, supporters who want a weekly fix with two tier admission depending on the formula. Standard F2 machines could attract mainstream engine manufacturers as sponsors. Something needs to be done to try and keep all parties interested particularly in the summer months but those making the rules must insist that for F1, the cut off dates will not change so league fixtures/standings as at the end of the first week of September will determine the teams in the playoffs which must take place in the second and third week of September and the final in the fourth week. F2 will be a straight forward league format with the top team being crowned champions. F2 could run a cup competition or something like an 4TT and/or a nationwide individual U.K. championship open to home based and overseas riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 hours ago, crazysue said: probably kill it completely within a season or two. That is on the cards now. No sport can go on hiding behind a total crowd level of less than 20,000 across the whole UK. Speedway in the UK is no longer sustainable, as we have known it. If we are fortunate something like F2, on a semi-pro basis, will emerge from the death throes of domestic league racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, DC2 said: And yet you would object to a ten week season with 7 to 9 home matches? I’m not quite getting that. I can understand more committed fans like Sidney and Steve Shovlar initially protesting that it would be too short but I think that even they might enjoy a more intense season with more reason to go to every home and away match to get their fix and the possibility of CL or NL matches to top up their season to 30 fixtures. I think it is a interesting idea DC2 well worth looking into there was one period in the season where we had quite a few meeting's close together and personally that is what i like. Edited October 17, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Wouldn't totally be against something like this. Add in a meaningful KO CUP and trophy at the end of the season, and a 3 round british final series shared around different tracks every year and the meetings soon add up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) On 10/16/2019 at 9:42 AM, DC2 said: How about a more intense season condensed into just ten or twelve weeks with 8 or 10 clubs riding against each other just twice (home and away) and with a home meeting every week, culminating in the play offs and grand final? May to July or June to August. It should focus the interest of the media and speedway fans and encourage more of them to travel to away matches. You don't half come out with some junk DC. 8-10 teams Edited October 17, 2019 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 While 10 weeks is to short a season, 20 week season would be a realistic target. What is baffling, especially in the Premiership is the lack of fixtures in July & August. The months kids are off school and more free family time the Speedway season seems to go into shutdown. If anything, the BSPA needs to make these two months in the year are jam packed with fixtures. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: While 10 weeks is to short a season, 20 week season would be a realistic target. What is baffling, especially in the Premiership is the lack of fixtures in July & August. The months kids are off school and more free family time the Speedway season seems to go into shutdown. If anything, the BSPA needs to make these two months in the year are jam packed with fixtures. Absolutely, and how about making the last round of meetings on the Bank Holiday Monday at the end of August? Then we can get in with the Play Offs in early September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Would like to see 18 team league..and fixtures April-September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 hours ago, RS50 said: 2018 fixtures called off because of football world cup. 2019 fixture called off due to that Liverpool Tottenham match. Presume England will be in next year's football European cup. Yes, that’s why we need fixture management. I don’t know if they do it now but someone needs to sit down before organising the fixture list and consider what clashes there would be with other sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Yes, that’s why we need fixture management. I don’t know if they do it now but someone needs to sit down before organising the fixture list and consider what clashes there would be with other sports. They don't. Just call off fixtures and stick 2 fingers up to those who wanted to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 hours ago, crazysue said: I'm not entirely sure they would to be honest, I think cost is actually one of the major factors behind why crowds are falling so increasing it to silly amounts would probably kill it completely within a season or two. That's why I said everyone has to do their bit All as important as each other the sport can't continue with the combination of - Clubs - Riders - Fans If we drop to 13 heats it's less mechanical costs for riders over the season, only a little saving of course however less heats is also less income so that's their sacrifice right there People want weekly speedway which for me would be £25 a meeting with programme with a little bit of food perhaps That would be £100 per month for 4 regular meetings... Now if it was £25 including programme and I go twice plus but a little bit of food that's £60 per month For the sport you love would you not pay the extra £20 I would Then it's down to the club to use the extra revenue and less cost to lay the foundations for the club to be enjoyed by future generations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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