DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 How about a more intense season condensed into just ten or twelve weeks with 8 or 10 clubs riding against each other just twice (home and away) and with a home meeting every week, culminating in the play offs and grand final? May to July or June to August. It should focus the interest of the media and speedway fans and encourage more of them to travel to away matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 i have made COMmEnTS about condensing the league program in the championship section . it will never happen because its an idea from followers of the sport and not the idiots who control British speedway ! watching speedway in good weather , sun on yer back and a rola cola in yer hand .. no , instead we run the two most important meetings in both leagues in freezing , wet and crazy conditions . time to wake up and smell the coffee British speedway .......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, DC2 said: How about a more intense season condensed into just ten or twelve weeks with 8 or 10 clubs riding against each other just twice (home and away) and with a home meeting every week, culminating in the play offs and grand final? May to July or June to August. It should focus the interest of the media and speedway fans and encourage more of them to travel to away matches. And which nights of the week would you have these Premiership meetings take place? And how would you guarantee Premiership-standard riders being available for all the fixtures? Just asking....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Rubbish idea. Sorry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: How about a more intense season condensed into just ten or twelve weeks with 8 or 10 clubs riding against each other just twice (home and away) and with a home meeting every week, culminating in the play offs and grand final? May to July or June to August. It should focus the interest of the media and speedway fans and encourage more of them to travel to away matches. There's a lot of sense to that, got to be better than the current situation with loads of blank dates mid summer then lots of action on the cold/dark/wet nights! Loads of logistical problems though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 A 2 month Speedway season? You cannot be serious! Maybe do like other sports, though, and be home one week, away the next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersub Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Let's be sensible, May to September makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 or 12 team league 13 Heat Format No.7 protected British U23 Home and Away once One Cup Competition Start April finish in August Play offs in September 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Falcon1983 said: 10 or 12 team league 13 Heat Format No.7 protected British U23 Home and Away once One Cup Competition Start April finish in August Play offs in September Why 13 heats? Surely 15 is better value? And Robert Lambert at reserve for King's Lynn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Grachan said: Why 13 heats? Surely 15 is better value? And Robert Lambert at reserve for King's Lynn? Is it better value? What if they say "less is more so let's call it £25 to watch speedway" as it's only a dozen meetings people will pay it Or keep it £18 to watch 13 heats instead meaning less races, less cost for riders, less cost for promoters etc. Also with 13 heats do correct me if I am wrong but reserves only get 3 program rides? With a protected no.7 it would be better to do it this way British U23 with a certain average criteria so Lambert would not be at no.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Grachan said: A 2 month Speedway season? You cannot be serious! Maybe do like other sports, though, and be home one week, away the next. Currently supporters complain about rain offs, not having a home meeting every week and losing the enthusiasm to go to home matches,, let alone never going to away matches. A shortened season in the summer might answer these issues and give a consistent and reliable product. Doesn’t the Polish Extraliga operate like this? It could also be supported by the CL and the NL operating a slightly longer season, say May to September, to draw in PL supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Grachan said: A 2 month Speedway season? You cannot be serious! Maybe do like other sports, though, and be home one week, away the next. Out of interest, how many matches have you been to this season, Grachan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, paulboy said: There's a lot of sense to that, got to be better than the current situation with loads of blank dates mid summer then lots of action on the cold/dark/wet nights! Loads of logistical problems though. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Is it better value? What if they say "less is more so let's call it £25 to watch speedway" as it's only a dozen meetings people will pay it Or keep it £18 to watch 13 heats instead meaning less races, less cost for riders, less cost for promoters etc. Also with 13 heats do correct me if I am wrong but reserves only get 3 program rides? With a protected no.7 it would be better to do it this way British U23 with a certain average criteria so Lambert would not be at no.7 Yes. 17 quid to get in. 17/13 = £1.31 per race 17/15 = £1.13 per race. So it's better value by 18p per race. The one thing with the old 13 race format, though, I'll admit, is it gives you plenty of 9 point riders - so people think the league is stronger even though it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DC2 said: Out of interest, how many matches have you been to this season, Grachan? About 3 I think. But I live more than 30 miles from the track, have a 1 year old daughter, and I have to work in London on Fridays. So I tend to only go to Monday meetings. Edited October 16, 2019 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Grachan said: About 3 I think. But I live more than 30 miles from the track and I have to work in London on Fridays. So I tend to only go to Monday meetings. And yet you would object to a ten week season with 7 to 9 home matches? I’m not quite getting that. I can understand more committed fans like Sidney and Steve Shovlar initially protesting that it would be too short but I think that even they might enjoy a more intense season with more reason to go to every home and away match to get their fix and the possibility of CL or NL matches to top up their season to 30 fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, DC2 said: And yet you would object to a ten week season with 7 to 9 home matches? I’m not quite getting that. I can understand more committed fans like Sidney and Steve Shovlar initially protesting that it would be too short but I think that even they might enjoy a more intense season with more reason to go to every home and away match to get their fix and the possibility of CL or NL matches to top up their season to 30 fixtures. Because the World isn't just about me. No offence, but a ten week season is mental. Speaking of me, as we were, it's still good for me to follow the season over a longer period of time and watch it on telly on a Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Grachan said: Yes. 17 quid to get in. 17/13 = £1.31 per race 17/15 = £1.13 per race. So it's better value by 18p per race. The one thing with the old 13 race format, though, I'll admit, is it gives you plenty of 9 point riders - so people think the league is stronger even though it isn't. Yep but if you base your calculations of £25 a meeting for 15 heats its then not value for money. Everyone has to play their part for the longevity of the sport Riders riding 13 heats means less maintenance but slightly less earning capacity Promoters will save on a reduced 13 heat format, less wages to pay, if they can keep sponsorship the same amount etc. That helps keep clubs more financially healthy Fans can either pay more for the product or it is reduced slightly to the good old days of 13 heats and fans do their bit As for the original idea of the poster... Can't see why the premier league can't start in a cup/group format in April to May with the final in September with some league fixtures starting in May also Then the championship/NL can start late May until mid July with play offs end of July The Premiership then resumes Mid July til end of August with plays offs in September Would make it easier doubling up, fans of the PL clubs may go watch other clubs during the "summer break" when some of the international meetings are also on When the CL/NL is finished then these fans may boost attendances locally at PL tracks I dont think it works at present with 3 leagues all running at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Falcon1983 said: Yep but if you base your calculations of £25 a meeting for 15 heats its then not value for money. Just as well it's not 25 quid a meeting then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, DC2 said: How about a more intense season condensed into just ten or twelve weeks with 8 or 10 clubs riding against each other just twice (home and away) and with a home meeting every week, culminating in the play offs and grand final? May to July or June to August. It should focus the interest of the media and speedway fans and encourage more of them to travel to away matches. 10 week season? How will they fit in all the matches when they have loads of fixtures are post poned because football is on the telly??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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