DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: BWD 2018 final average was 6.00 so your promotion will expect a big drop when the new averages come out for May. No-one will put 2 points ON an average in 1 month so there will be scope for or if any changes are required during the first 2 months. But if he comes in on a converted average it surely would be the start of his rolling average and his previous 6 point average will be irrelevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 If it is similar to this year, the converted average is for team building only. His rolling average from 2018 plus his accrued scores during April 2020 up to & including the 23rd will give him a new average from the 1st May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RebelDan said: Seriously ? Why would you start the season knowing you have a rider on an inflated average - don't sign him in the first place if you think that! Imagine if Rowe increases his average by 2 points after the first set of averages are out, you are then stuffed bringing anyone else in if BWD average does drop. I don't see the logic unless you are telling riders to blatantly reduce their averages early in the season which makes no sense. Why not start a season with riders who you feel will increase or at least attain their starting GSA, sounds novel eh? Because it's probably all part of a bigger plan. Once BWD's average drops Somerset can then strengthen the side considerably. Swindon are doing the same imo. Sign Anders Rowe and then sack him once Rasmus Jensen's average drops to get a stronger rider in. Rowe doesn't have a chance of increasing his average to 6. The league isn't won and lost during the early part of the season.....Somerset only have to qualify for the Play-Offs and then take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, crescent girl said: Or keep Stoneman and replace another, perhaps more-deserving candidate with a bigger scorer.... Could do. Doubt it though. Stoneman looks like a short term signing to me and when the first set of GSA's are released. He will be sacrificed for a stronger rider imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rockstar99 said: Could do. Doubt it though. Stoneman looks like a short term signing to me and when the first set of GSA's are released. He will be sacrificed for a stronger rider imo. Don’t know why you keep saying that. Stoneman is every bit as good as the other 2 to 3 pointers being signed. There’s as much chance that Bates or Barker would be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghosty said: I don't agree with all this anti Stoneman speel, Nathan scored good points for the Rebels 2019 I see a 5+ average for 2020. I understand he had a couple of good scores towards the end of the season, but on Chris Harris' engine ! he will be ok as long as he has the machinery under him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Well reading this topic if your a championship side you want Somerset home and away in the first couple of months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, DC2 said: Don’t know why you keep saying that. Stoneman is every bit as good as the other 2 to 3 pointers being signed. There’s as much chance that Bates or Barker would be replaced. Young Brits are normally the ones being sacrificed which is why I keep saying Nathan. I agree though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Well reading this topic if your a championship side you want Somerset home and away in the first couple of months This is Matt ford locking in for Easter bank Hol meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 If the master plan is to drop Stoneman and then have x2 4pt riders at reserve then it’s still not an amazing team. History has shown us that you don’t need 2 ‘good’ reserves, but you need 1 ‘excellent’ one and tbh the other will only take 3 rides regardless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Rockstar99 said: Because it's probably all part of a bigger plan. Once BWD's average drops Somerset can then strengthen the side considerably. Swindon are doing the same imo. Sign Anders Rowe and then sack him once Rasmus Jensen's average drops to get a stronger rider in. Rowe doesn't have a chance of increasing his average to 6. The league isn't won and lost during the early part of the season.....Somerset only have to qualify for the Play-Offs and then take it from there. I just used Rowe as an example, I don't think he will either but another rider could or collectively the team could. I agree I think there's a fair chance there will be a change or two with this team come May/June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Why does BWD come in on an assessed average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesno1 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, blue witch said: Why does BWD come in on an assessed average? Because he didn't ride in the Championship last season. Therefore his Premiership average from last season is used and multiplied by 1.6. Edited December 3, 2019 by eaglesno1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred5 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Ghosty said: I don't agree with all this anti Stoneman speel, Nathan scored good points for the Rebels 2019 I see a 5+ average for 2020. I agree, he`s well capable of a +4 av Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I don’t think there is some big master plan for averages to drop and then someone else has already been lined up. I just think that Somerset have been the financial decision to not spend anymore than X amount and therefore the team isn’t anywhere near the standard you would come to expect a few seasons ago. If that is what they have to do to keep the team afloat, then that is what they have to do. The biggest mistake was not signing Wilson-Dean last season. Why that didn’t happen, I don’t know. He’s now come in on an inflated average that he won’t achieve just to compound the mistake further. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Najjer said: I don’t think there is some big master plan for averages to drop and then someone else has already been lined up. I just think that Somerset have been the financial decision to not spend anymore than X amount and therefore the team isn’t anywhere near the standard you would come to expect a few seasons ago. If that is what they have to do to keep the team afloat, then that is what they have to do. The biggest mistake was not signing Wilson-Dean last season. Why that didn’t happen, I don’t know. He’s now come in on an inflated average that he won’t achieve just to compound the mistake further. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Najjer said: I don’t think there is some big master plan for averages to drop and then someone else has already been lined up. I just think that Somerset have been the financial decision to not spend anymore than X amount and therefore the team isn’t anywhere near the standard you would come to expect a few seasons ago. If that is what they have to do to keep the team afloat, then that is what they have to do. The biggest mistake was not signing Wilson-Dean last season. Why that didn’t happen, I don’t know. He’s now come in on an inflated average that he won’t achieve just to compound the mistake further. Nail on head Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Someone more financially adept than me will be able to provide more information, but the accounts of Somerset speedway on companies house don't look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 What they put through the books and what they actually make is probably completely different a lot of cash easy not to show I.e car park fees,etc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, lewy said: What they put through the books and what they actually make is probably completely different a lot of cash easy not to show I.e car park fees,etc that could open a can of worms for someone . investigation material ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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