Ghosty Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 What will 2020 have install for the Rebels fans? what league? "May"-be the return of some of the riders the fans want to see i.e. Allen, Wright, BWD & Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) If Somerset go up, I would like to see both Jack & Chris (if he is riding in uk) Holder in the side Edited October 15, 2019 by Buttons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 have Somerset not just dropped out of the SO called premier league . stick with the championship. cheaper price , same riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Buttons said: If Somerset go up, I would like to see both Jack & Chris (if he is riding in uk) Holder in the side If the top league stick to their fixed race nights I would be doubtful Somerset would make the jump up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Personally can't see them going up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, screm said: If the top league stick to their fixed race nights I would be doubtful Somerset would make the jump up. 'Fixed race nights' Has this had a positive impact on the sport, in general? It seems to have taken away some clubs 'traditional' race night and, also I think that a Monday night, (for television),,, is not best placed, as its probly competing against football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: 'Fixed race nights' Has this had a positive impact on the sport, in general? It seems to have taken away some clubs 'traditional' race night and, also I think that a Monday night, (for television),,, is not best placed, as its probly competing against football. Yes, it is reducing the amount of guests and R/R for riders riding in the other league dramatically, obviously injuries cant be helped and some foreign commitments but imo it is working very well for what it was meant to do, I’m all for them changing the different nights each league gets to suit more teams but think it should be kept 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Can't see us moving anywhere in terms of League structure in 2020. I would expect Championship racing for the Rebels in 2020 and to be honest we didn't see many different riders at the OTA this year to last, barring maybe JD, Lambert and NKI. Start the team building with Anders and Bomber and off we go! Gazza will find a way of getting a competitive team on track within the budget available to ensure speedway survives in Somerset. I have heard he has multiple permutations already mapped out for the 2020 Rebels! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 The Championship is rubbish value for money compared to the Premiership. The quality of riders is hugely different in that it's effectively a case of Doyle, Iversen, Lambert, Kurtz, Holder vs. Stoneman, Atkins, Harris and other National League riders. The price is no different in general meaning the Championship compared to the Premiership in terms of quality of rider on show and the admission price is a rip off. Why else would crowds of been so bad this season in comparison? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) I think the Somerset promotion made a mistake in doing away with the senior concessions and as a result many did not attend or were less frequent.Next season the championship will be watered down even further given the rumours flying around. Edited October 16, 2019 by Corgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Najjer said: The Championship is rubbish value for money compared to the Premiership. The quality of riders is hugely different in that it's effectively a case of Doyle, Iversen, Lambert, Kurtz, Holder vs. Stoneman, Atkins, Harris and other National League riders. The price is no different in general meaning the Championship compared to the Premiership in terms of quality of rider on show and the admission price is a rip off. Why else would crowds of been so bad this season in comparison? Fully agree here. Championship should be £15 max with any rider over 8pts pushed into the top league. If we don't have doubling up then we don't need fixed race nights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I have said it for ages any rider with a premiership average over 7.00 or NL average below 7.00 should not be allowed to ride Championship . I think it would keep the league more competitive and costs down and then making it a viable £15 night out . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 1:24 PM, Ghosty said: What will 2020 have install for the Rebels fans? what league? "May"-be the return of some of the riders the fans want to see i.e. Allen, Wright, BWD & Holder. Would be great , but I doubt we will see any of these. Gary was saying he is not going to get caught out by poor reserves next time, so that will be Anders nailed on for a reserve spot. Berge really screwed us last season let’s hope we don’t have a repeat next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 11:24 AM, Ghosty said: What will 2020 have install for the Rebels fans? what league? "May"-be the return of some of the riders the fans want to see i.e. Allen, Wright, BWD & Holder. Don't you mean that YOU want to see? It is better to have a happy team, riding to a constructive budget than pandering to the demands of 'fans' who have no real connection to the real world? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Facts are there is no rider & that includes Jason Doyle more popular with the Rebels fans than Charles Wright. I have my own successful business & very much in connection with the real world. Also I'm in no doubt that a few of the current (2019) squad did not come cheap! P.S. I'm very much in favour of a happy team, riders risk their necks every race their in so it's important that there is mutual respect among team mates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 1:22 PM, Najjer said: The Championship is rubbish value for money compared to the Premiership. The quality of riders is hugely different in that it's effectively a case of Doyle, Iversen, Lambert, Kurtz, Holder vs. Stoneman, Atkins, Harris and other National League riders. The price is no different in general meaning the Championship compared to the Premiership in terms of quality of rider on show and the admission price is a rip off. Why else would crowds of been so bad this season in comparison? Your point is valid regarding the gulf in rider differences however the names that lets it down. Yes Danny King, Rory Schlien, Charles Wright and similar are heading to the line with Luke Harris, Danny Phillips etc and that is just daft. There will never be a value product if that is the model. The top tier imposed a standard for the lower riders to achieve and that is needed in the Championship. Watch two teams were lowest ave is 4 and top is 7 and will see plenty of unpredictable racing all night. Sending riders on 10 point ave and 2 point average to the line in the same race and expecting people to pay for it is pure madness. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Chris 'Bomber' Harris is first to fly the nest and has signed for Birmingham at Championship Level !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill94d Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 I did not attend the OTA at all this year, after regular attendance in 2018. Reason? Dropped a league, got rid of the world champion and (for me a pensioner) put up prices. Try selling something under the banner of "less for more" and you will be in trouble sooner or later. I am interested in the sport and watch it on TV but the ritual clearing out of riders for a whole new set up for the next season is the height of madness. Can you imagine the uproar if football tried that? Develop a fan loyalty base, bin the points limit, and let promoter build the team they want and their supporters can relate to over time and can support commercially. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Back in the seventies we had pretty much the same team at workington for 6 seasons just an odd change, all the old fans who get on the bug red bus still talk about those riders? Taffy lou mal mackay etc, that was our team not anymore these days , no disrespect to harris but he changes team every year now how can fans get a bond with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 From rebels WEB Site Somerset boss Gary May is disappointed that he won't be able to bring Chris Harris back as an Oak Tree regular in 2020 after the Cornishman became a confirmed starter for Birmingham.Championship rivals Brummies made the announcement today and May said "I am genuinely sorry to see Bomber move on, but that is part and parcel of speedway and the annual merry-go-round of riders. At the end if the day he is not owned by Somerset rider so we had to go into the mix to negotiate a deal. Of course I would have loved to have him back. I can tell you for sure that he had featured in no fewer than fifteen of my team permutations but at the end of the day we just could not strike the right deal for Somerset Speedway. I have always said that I am not prepared to risk the future of the club by offering riders deals that we can't possibly meet, we know what we can afford and we must always strive to operate within our budget. We weren't too far away on the numbers but that's how things turn out I guess. 2"I am still determined to bring a competitive side together for 2020 and I have filled a notebook on possible teams. It's hard, very hard. Putting a team together is a bit like making buying and selling a house. If something down the chain happens there is a knock on effect throughout that chain. Likewise if one rider in a chosen seven drops by the wayside you have to take an overall look at the make-up of that side. Quite often we are working on fine margins as far as averages are concerned, and there are only limited resources out there.""What I can say is that the planning goes, the 'phone bill is rising but I am sure we well get there with a team to do us proud."Harris captained the Rebels to the SGB Championship play-off semi-finals and was a member of the SGB Championship Fours winning quartet. After just one season, Harris sits in 36th position of the all-time Rebels race winners with 52 victories to his name, and is 46th in the all-time points scorers with 264 race points scored in 2019, despite riding most of the campaign with a wrist injury, one which he is awaiting an operation on over the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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