Championship Grand Final 2019

[IronScorpion]

1 hour ago, wtf said:

Lenny

Nagy1 may well be looking at much of this weeks events through some red and white tinted glasses, but believe me when I say Mr McGregor has never has a red and white tint to his decision making and I would imagine his appointments are based as much on geography as anything else. His usual tints of decision making were very much blue and gold in the past 

imho of course

More looking at events through red eyes through all the bleating & crying.

[IronScorpion]

1 hour ago, nagy1 said:

I half agree with you on the Scunny meeting. The more pivotal was getting beat at Leicester. We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. (SJ fell at the last turn) 

I am ruing the injury to Starke. The difference is you can cherry pick guests for a rider 3rd in your averages. We had to replace Paul or go R/R. Most people prefer to see 7 man teams. Them are the rules and the breaks. Leicester were more fortunate than us. That again is not bitter it is fact

IF'S, BUT's & MAYBE'S. It is a dangerous, high octane sport that has it's spills & thrills.

Staying on the bike, engine failures are part of the sport. How many other teams can go back & count points dropped?

Leicester used the guest option to have a 7 man team. Glasgow replaced Starke to have a 7 man team.

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, nagy1 said:

I half agree with you on the Scunny meeting. The more pivotal was getting beat at Leicester. We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. (SJ fell at the last turn) 

I am ruing the injury to Starke. The difference is you can cherry pick guests for a rider 3rd in your averages. We had to replace Paul or go R/R. Most people prefer to see 7 man teams. Them are the rules and the breaks. Leicester were more fortunate than us. That again is not bitter it is fact

Was replacing Paul not the right option though,whether you should have brought Paul back(if he was recovered from injury)was the only decision to be made.

ps 

I don’t if he was fit or not.

I didn’t really matter who topped the league. IMO Leicester done you a favour picking Redcar.

Hard luck on Glasgow but they had good season and provided some great entertainment.

[Gemini]

8 hours ago, iainb said:

I've got to say that whoever is in charge of Leicester's media really does need replacing... I expected to return from Glasgow to catch up on all of the reaction, not particularly in the media, but quite certainly on the website, pictures, interviews with riders and management, video of Ellis Perks clinching the final in that fantastic heat 14 and the celebrations afterwards.

Only there's nothing, just a bog standard match report "GLASGOW 50 LIONS 40 (AGG: 89-91)", that's the only clue on the website that Lions have done anything at all on a Tuesday night in October, and they lost. It's a bit of an insult to the fans that have been supporting the club all year long and had the 2nd leg taken away from them. 

Is it any wonder that it's not in the local paper when the club can't even be bothered to do media for their fans on their own website... just another match on a Tuesday night in October.

The fans won't get to see this team again, the team that won the league title for the first time in 50 years! See you in March... and oh yes if you don't come in enough numbers we'll close down.

DISGRACEFUL!!

I agree that is very poor but the 2 Lions groups on Facebook have been brilliant with their praise.

Not much use if you aren't on Facebook though I suppose. 

[phillipsr]

What is true is that Glasgow replaced riders pretty poorly.. going for Andersen and Jensen was just poor management.. Leciester managed there situation better and i think they would of won over two legs if both Starke and Worrall had been fit

[Endeavour]

8 hours ago, wtf said:

Lenny

Nagy1 may well be looking at much of this weeks events through some red and white tinted glasses, but believe me when I say Mr McGregor has never has a red and white tint to his decision making and I would imagine his appointments are based as much on geography as anything else. His usual tints of decision making were very much blue and gold in the past 

imho of course

Jim may be nicknamed Grand Monarch but IMO he is a fair referee. We compete in a GB league with GB referees. Doesn’t stand any nonsense from riders. Other refs could take a leaf out of his book. 

[waytogo28]

21 hours ago, iainb said:

Is it any wonder that it's not in the local paper when the club can't even be bothered to do media for their fans on their own website... just another match on a Tuesday night in October.

Sadly Leicster are not the obly club who can't be bothered to give their fans something to enjoy in return for their loyal support. It's part of the UK disease that spells the demise of league speedway as we know it here. They often go on about "look at socail media it's buzzing". Many people choose not to look at or use social media and it's the lazy person's excuse. Why bother to even run a club website then? I am confident that social media has not increased support on the terraces, however much you post there.

[Big Al]

On 10/24/2019 at 7:53 AM, nagy1 said:

Are you alluding to the way Glasgow didn't allow Leicester to loan Victor? Glasgow would of been happy for your to buy him. If your promotion had played ball with Sarj at the start of the season there wouldn't of been a problem.

If I've got things right, Leicester decided not to purchase Palovaara, were only interested in having him on a loan basi but Glasgow didn't allow it. So he was available to be re-employed by Glasgow, had they been able to accommodate him. I'm not a Glasgow expert, so I presume they either decided he wouldn't improve the side, or just couldn't fit him in. If they had done, maybe it would have changed the outcome of the league title, but as I said I'm no Glasgow expert and have no idea if he could have been accommodated.

[IainB]

1 hour ago, waytogo28 said:

Sadly Leicster are not the obly club who can't be bothered to give their fans something to enjoy in return for their loyal support. It's part of the UK disease that spells the demise of league speedway as we know it here. They often go on about "look at socail media it's buzzing". Many people choose not to look at or use social media and it's the lazy person's excuse. Why bother to even run a club website then? I am confident that social media has not increased support on the terraces, however much you post there.

I used to follow Leicester Speedway on Twitter... until they blocked me, turns out they didn't want to hear my opinions during one of the debacles that were run at BP this year. So perhaps that is buzzing? I'll never know. It's easier than ever before for somebody to interview somebody or take video using a mobile phone and upload it to a website... yet still nothing

[Gazc]

48 minutes ago, Big Al said:

If I've got things right, Leicester decided not to purchase Palovaara, were only interested in having him on a loan basi but Glasgow didn't allow it. So he was available to be re-employed by Glasgow, had they been able to accommodate him. I'm not a Glasgow expert, so I presume they either decided he wouldn't improve the side, or just couldn't fit him in. If they had done, maybe it would have changed the outcome of the league title, but as I said I'm no Glasgow expert and have no idea if he could have been accommodated.

Or maybe Victor didn't fancy riding for us, entirely possible he spat the dummy you can hardly blame him.

[jenga]

is there going to be a highlights DVD on sale of the tigers 2019 season ?  if so it will be a good Christmas prezzie for me . put it on the list , just in case .. 

[Bagpuss]

40 minutes ago, jenga said:

is there going to be a highlights DVD on sale of the tigers 2019 season ?  if so it will be a good Christmas prezzie for me . put it on the list , just in case .. 

If it’s full of racing like heat 13 from the other night which I saw on social media then it will be well worth buying, superb speedway. 

[Paulco]

7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

If it’s full of racing like heat 13 from the other night which I saw on social media then it will be well worth buying, superb speedway. 

We've had that type of thing all season . The track has produced the best speedway we've seen in many a year . Ok it would have been nice to have silverware at the end of the season , apart from the Pairs , but the entertainment has more that made up for the lack of trophys.  

[Fromafar]

42 minutes ago, Paulco said:

We've had that type of thing all season . The track has produced the best speedway we've seen in many a year . Ok it would have been nice to have silverware at the end of the season , apart from the Pairs , but the entertainment has more that made up for the lack of trophys.  

Agree some great Speedway this season.

[Big Al]

12 hours ago, Gazc said:

Or maybe Victor didn't fancy riding for us, entirely possible he spat the dummy you can hardly blame him.

Fair point!

[Mr Bump]

Ellis Perks’ title winning ride in heat 14 is on the Leicester Speedway Twitter page now. It’s a great piece of riding on a great racetrack. Good stuff

[SharpenRake]

22 hours ago, Mr Bump said:

Ellis Perks’ title winning ride in heat 14 is on the Leicester Speedway Twitter page now. It’s a great piece of riding on a great racetrack. Good stuff

I can't help thinking Perks is a classic example of a rider getting better and better with the more rides he gets. For him riding for 3 teams has worked really well. In other cases some riders are only getting 3 rides a week and are unable to improve and or afford to continue riding. Well done Mr Perks you have shown others it can be done. 

[DC2]

14 hours ago, SharpenRake said:

I can't help thinking Perks is a classic example of a rider getting better and better with the more rides he gets. For him riding for 3 teams has worked really well. In other cases some riders are only getting 3 rides a week and are unable to improve and or afford to continue riding. Well done Mr Perks you have shown others it can be done. 

 

And yet only two years ago he wasn’t picked by any team in any league despite having several years’ experience!

 

 

[wtf]

1 hour ago, DC2 said:

 

And yet only two years ago he wasn’t picked by any team in any league despite having several years’ experience!

 

 

He wasn't picked for 2018 because his average was quite high in the eyes of those who were building teams that year. in 2017 he started the year on a 2.38 at reserve, had a great year at Redcar and more than doubled it to 5.08. I think from memory he spent the last month or so in the main body and held his own, but obviously team builders wrongly saw little improvement potential so chose to ignore him. This year he will finish the season on a 6.40 average and could well have the same issues as before. I hope not for his sake.

[DC2]

56 minutes ago, wtf said:

He wasn't picked for 2018 because his average was quite high in the eyes of those who were building teams that year. in 2017 he started the year on a 2.38 at reserve, had a great year at Redcar and more than doubled it to 5.08. I think from memory he spent the last month or so in the main body and held his own, but obviously team builders wrongly saw little improvement potential so chose to ignore him. This year he will finish the season on a 6.40 average and could well have the same issues as before. I hope not for his sake.

 

I think he will be signed next season regardless of whether or not he can add to his average because he has proven himself in all three leagues to be both a winner and a crowd pleaser!