RedcarRacer Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Justice was done, tracks like Rough Park should never be rewarded for the state of them! The better team and promotion won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shearer09 said: So what is the situation with new owners Dave? George in his programme notes last night said :- "As for 2020, well at this present time it's too early to say however I would just like to say that it has been a total pleasure to oversee Newcastle Speedway in the longest period of continued operation in it's history, these past 23 years have flown over, we have had many successes in that time but the actual 23 years is the important thing to me. And my sincere wish is that period extends to 24 years even if someone else is at the helm the club." Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclennell Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RedcarRacer said: Justice was done, tracks like Rough Park should never be rewarded for the state of them! The better team and promotion won! Well it's been rewarded with a lot more trophies than Redcar/Boro that's for sure. Congratulations on your win by the way which was more than deserved. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclennell Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tsunami said: George in his programme notes last night said :- "As for 2020, well at this present time it's too early to say however I would just like to say that it has been a total pleasure to oversee Newcastle Speedway in the longest period of continued operation in it's history, these past 23 years have flown over, we have had many successes in that time but the actual 23 years is the important thing to me. And my sincere wish is that period extends to 24 years even if someone else is at the helm the club." Hope that helps. Yeah read to me that if they're looking for new owners (maybe already sorted), but if not forthcoming then it maybe the end. Might be totally wrong with that just the way it reads to me; and someone may have the knowledge to put me right. Edited October 28, 2019 by acclennell spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 So, we could be looking at a new era at Newcastle Speedway next year then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer09 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, Tsunami said: George in his programme notes last night said :- "As for 2020, well at this present time it's too early to say however I would just like to say that it has been a total pleasure to oversee Newcastle Speedway in the longest period of continued operation in it's history, these past 23 years have flown over, we have had many successes in that time but the actual 23 years is the important thing to me. And my sincere wish is that period extends to 24 years even if someone else is at the helm the club." Hope that helps. Cheers Dave I’m away at work so I know nothing regarding program notes, but I’m with you hopefully George stays at the club In some manner that’s if we get new owners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: if you had put your glasses on, you might notice I have already been on before you. Through illness I wan't there last night, but my family were, and I followed it on the Updates. Well done to Redcar, who have improved the side as they has gone on, something we haven't. Maybe a lesson there. Great to hear there was such a massive crowd las night, and along with a big crowd comes a great atmosphere. Very please to hear that Redcar fans turned up, because whilst we always give Redcar their top gates , Redcar historically don't at Brough. Enjoy your success as quite frankly they have deserved success this year through the efforts of good management, and riders who were prepared to ride. Didn't look that good early in the season, but astute management got then to what they have achieved in the Playoffs and now the KO cup. Congrats to all. Not surprised about George's revelations, but for the sake of Newcastle Speedway, I hope he stays on in a senior role and that others ae prepared to listen to his advice. Roy stepping down from his 'Ramblings' in the programme I can live with, but it does mean there is going to be a new feel about not year. Where does that leave Dalbers ? I hope this is all for the better. I hope everything is ok Dave and you are feeling better soon, as for the KO Cup defeat I never saw us wining it anyway, however I have to admit I was a little disappointed not to win it after tying it up on aggregate but well done Redcar at least a north east team won rather than down south! As for the take over I hope this is a step in the right direction, however I do feel In my honest opinion it needs to be a clean break without George, so many times on here as well as people who know me personally including George himself know I'm not his biggest fan as a manager, however I do think he's been there for what will be 23 seasons in 2020 time to move on George as I think it would be in the best interests for both parties a clean break. However time will tell & lets see what the future brings starting with us running in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, RedcarRacer said: Justice was done, tracks like Rough Park should never be rewarded for the state of them! The better team and promotion won! It is NOT Rough Park it is Brough Park why act this childish way when you have Newcastle fans including myself who have congratulated you on the silverware? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RedcarRacer said: Justice was done, tracks like Rough Park should never be rewarded for the state of them! Is this the same Rough Park that around 3 years ago Redcar fans vowed NEVER to return to because of the state of the track? ... Quite a few hypocrites went back on their word when a 12 point lead opened up after the first leg !! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winditon Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Bear_Bottom said: As a consolation Redcar are offering Newcastle fans a free tea or coffee. We'll even supply the Cup! Can we stir it with the wooden spoons you have accumulated? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Honestly Newcastle flattered to deceive yet again; pulled things back and all square by heat 12 building up to the grand finale only to be let down in heats 13 and 15 and not for the first time, what a damp squib in the end and dare I say; it looked like the Redcar riders seemed to want it more; and well done to the Redcar team a great effort; also the Redcar Promotion and Fans who thoroughly deserved their victory in the end and Newcastle got exactly what they deserved "Zip" because if you cant get a race advantage in either 13 or 15 at home you don't deserve to get anything in my book.It certainly shouldn't be two 1-5's to the opposition (or am I expecting to much?) So the Redcar faithful can bask in the warmth and glory of their Cup victory over the cold winter nights looking forward to the 2020 season. Special mention for Sarj who potentially got the same as Baby Bjerre would have scored so no loss there and it was definitely more than I expected him to score to be totally honest, in fact after the first heat where he followed Worrall home someone said he had borrowed and engine off Cookie and I had to ask was it not Cookie on the bike? The one poor decision IMHO was the exclusion of Barker in Heat 7 for running into the back of Phillips, the ref from his lofty position said Phillips had locked up slightly and Barker had run into the back of him however from where I was standing at the tapes it looked to me (and to everyone else standing around that area) that Phillips was in the process of falling off before Barker run into the back of him, so I am pleased in one way that this incident wasn't a crucial factor in the outcome of the meeting and in the end had no bearing on the final result Good Crowd; Good Craic; a nice cold dark night racing under lights; just how it should be and nice to see the Workington contingent over getting their Speedway fix and there was some exciting racing; but the end product for us Jawdee's just wasn't there in the end. To be fair it was what we expected but to drag everything back by heat 12 only to see it all fall apart in 13 and 15 is just an extra kick in the nuts; the anticipation and optimism coming into heat 13 thinking "bloody hell we might just do this" to have the rug well and truly pulled from under you; well disappointing springs to mind amongst other words (unprintable unfortunately) but never mind onward and upward there is always next year to be disappointed all over again So again well done to Redcar long may the success last Regards THJ Edited October 28, 2019 by TotallyHonestJohn Spelling, 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, mike7164 said: It is NOT Rough Park it is Brough Park why act this childish way when you have Newcastle fans including myself who have congratulated you on the silverware? its a cracking stadium but the straights have always been slightly too long for the bends - conversely i believe STMP is the opposite with straights being slightly too short. I think racing at BP would be greatly improved by shortening the straights - I believe Wolves did this donkeys years ago and Swindon of course have just done it, in both cases the racing improved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Bellers has been quiet since Tsunami spoke up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 THJ, I was stood in the grandstand, a bit higher than yous but below the referee and, I agree with the refs idea of it. The folks around me looked astounded as I called it before the white light came on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: THJ, I was stood in the grandstand, a bit higher than yous but below the referee and, I agree with the refs idea of it. The folks around me looked astounded as I called it before the white light came on. Well there you go Tom-Mate-Toe/Tom-Mart/Oh... I can see the reasoning and the more loftier position may have given a better view but it definitely looked like Phillips was on his way down before he got the nudge from Barker so I am doubly pleased that the incident had no bearing whatsoever on the outcome. Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, ch958 said: its a cracking stadium but the straights have always been slightly too long for the bends - conversely i believe STMP is the opposite with straights being slightly too short. I think racing at BP would be greatly improved by shortening the straights - I believe Wolves did this donkeys years ago and Swindon of course have just done it, in both cases the racing improved. We(George and I ) took the 1st and 2nd bends in 2 metres in about 1998, as it was too tight and it opened the corners up. It's now 12 metres wide with the 3rd and 4th bends 14 metres. The danger with taking the bends in is, that while the bends get wider and therefore the straights slightly shorter, it does damage the drains on the kerbs and takes something off the banking which we have constantly dished in around the inside line, as the stadium owners have never let us increase the height of the outside track and the fence, as they believe the doggy punters have to see the doggies legs during the race. I calculated that even an increase of 18inches still allows this to happen, but they won't budge and of course it could be costly. I think it would improve racing, making it a bit more like a big track than a very small track. Redcar has decent banking at both ends. This is what has happened at Glasgow, and that has improved the racing very much so this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Tsunami said: We(George and I ) took the 1st and 2nd bends in 2 metres in about 1998, as it was too tight and it opened the corners up. It's now 12 metres wide with the 3rd and 4th bends 14 metres. The danger with taking the bends in is, that while the bends get wider and therefore the straights slightly shorter, it does damage the drains on the kerbs and takes something off the banking which we have constantly dished in around the inside line, as the stadium owners have never let us increase the height of the outside track and the fence, as they believe the doggy punters have to see the doggies legs during the race. I calculated that even an increase of 18inches still allows this to happen, but they won't budge and of course it could be costly. I think it would improve racing, making it a bit more like a big track than a very small track. Redcar has decent banking at both ends. This is what has happened at Glasgow, and that has improved the racing very much so this year. Instead of raising the outside, can we not dig down on the inside? Obviously a slow decrease as you get closer to the centre green, to stop pools of water forming? You'd think the dogs would want the corners moved further inside, to lessen the amount of shale that gets thrown onto the dog track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Winditon said: Can we stir it with the wooden spoons you have accumulated? You could also use the sweetener the ref was on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Will the fearless Eric Thornton be investigating the ownership position? I appreciate he may have been a bit miffed at being stood down by the SS, but I think we should be told what's going on, and maybe the nonexistent Eric is just the man for the job. Or perhaps that centre green announcer from a few years back whose qualification was that he'd been found in the pub and knew absolutely nothing about speedway...a tradition admirably carried on by Roy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Bear_Bottom said: You could also use the sweetener the ref was on . Got the Wright/Ostergaard incident right... Wright clearly wiped Ostergaard out going into the first bend because he was jealous of how well he was gating all night... However the Phillips/Barker incident was a bit dodgy... Danny locked up, and Barker couldn't do much other than hit Danny... Awkward looking fall in the end, but at the end of the day, not Danny fault... In no conceivable universe should Danny Phillips be expected to race against Ben Barker and Jordan Stewart... It's just wrong... He probably panicked when he looked behind and saw who he was in front of... It was embarrassing watching the races that had the likes of Erik Riss and Max Clegg in and Tom Woolley and Danny Phillips wobbling around at the back... Nearly a lap behind... To add: Not to mention the referee let Jordan Stewart ride in his white helmet colour all night Never seen that before... And there's no way you can tell me that it was yellow... Because it just wasn't Edited October 28, 2019 by Dandelion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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