Pob Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Looks like it might be on the slick side at the moment imho. Understandable with the weather. 10 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Still plenty of time to sort that out. The positive is just how good a shape in looks in considering the last few days It is now possible to make it how the Witches want it rather than just how the weather dictates Bring it on!! #NoSlickWeWantGrip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, The Weasel said: Whilst I can't dispute your figures for this years rainfall and how many PP that would have caused, the simple fact is, October sees more average rainfall than September, so if you start the Play Offs in September you give yourselves more time to get the fixtures in and we don't end up with the farcical situation we currently have where there's only 2 weeks left in the season and the fixtures are run in poor conditions and whenever we can fit them in to the detriment of the sport and its supporters. How many people booked last Monday off work (Wolves v Swindon) and then couldn't go on the Weds? likewise this week, how many booked yesterday (for the biggest meeting of the year) and have to miss out because they can't get out of work the following day? Swindon have managed to fill a coach despite only knowing on Thursday that they'd definitely be in the final and with it being PP yesterday have managed to fill it again for today, how many coaches would they have filled if they'd had fair warning of the fixture? 2? probably 3? likely 4? possibly, the sport is missing out and doing itself no favours, forget all the usual nonsense about yellow helmets and 1 big league, the first stop is just better organisation all round. They only seem to need more than 1, 2, for Cardiff GP. The final doesn't draw the big crowds like it did 10-15 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Sun is still shining here in Ipswich so bring it on Whatever the result tonight and tomorrow, thank you witches for the ride in 2019. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, auntie doris said: They only seem to need more than 1, 2, for Cardiff GP. The final doesn't draw the big crowds like it did 10-15 years ago As our learned forumite, The Weasel, has already pointed out, the organisation and leadership of this organisation is shocking. We had a similar issue back in 2012 when 3 times the Poole v Swindon match was attempted before it was finally completed. That was in October too. Lessons learned - nope. As an example, I have been available to attend the original running of both Wolves and Ipswich but cannot attend the re-staged meetings as funnily enough, like most of us, I have work commitments and responsibilities. It is unbelievable that a group of people can continually make the same mistakes 'ad nauseum'. From a Swindon perspective 'young' Kilby seems to have an idea about how to engage the Swindon supporters and coaches have now run to Belle Vue, Wolves and Ipswich. He is also introducing a season ticket payable over a year to ease the tremendous financial burden families face but cleverly, you pay all year round to ensure a reliable cashflow to the club. The rest of the promoters, and I am sure that individually they are nice blokes, however, collectively I wouldn't p*** on any of them and trust them to organise the usual night out in the brewery. Typically, these dinosaurs are too selfish, shortsighted and refuse to see the bigger picture but like dinosaurs, you all know what happens in the end..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 hours ago, A ORLOV said: Both clubs would get a lot more attend if the final was either a Saturday or Sunday Why not have the final at a neutral venue, this year could have been held at Belle Vue , if you could hold it at the weekend you would get all the local fans as well as the fans of the two clubs involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 And both clubs lose out having the final at home and miss out on revenue? Gotta be two legs 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Looks like it might be on the slick side at the moment imho. Understandable with the weather. That will play into Swindon's hands unfortunately. Edited October 15, 2019 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 T 21 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: And both clubs lose out having the final at home and miss out on revenue? Gotta be two legs No they shouldn't lose out the revenue would be shared just like it is in every other sport that has their final at a neutral venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, foreverblue said: T No they shouldn't lose out the revenue would be shared just like it is in every other sport that has their final at a neutral venue. Lol no disrespect but that's a bit of a naive post so you think the 2000+ that Blunsdon would get and perhaps a similar crowd tonight would all attend at a neutral venue? I really don't think you would get that much interest from neutrals after all how many neutrals will go tonight or thursday? Plus how is that fair on fans that can attend a home meeting but not away?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Lol no disrespect but that's a bit of a naive post so you think the 2000+ that Blunsdon would get and perhaps a similar crowd tonight would all attend at a neutral venue? I really don't think you would get that much interest from neutrals after all how many neutrals will go tonight or thursday? Plus how is that fair on fans that can attend a home meeting but not away?? The only example of this happening I can think of is Knockout Cup Final in 1996. Monmore Green had closed early due to work on the greyhound track so the 1st leg, Wolves v Peterborough, took place at Long Eaton. It was RAMMED. Different times now I admit and a journey to Belle Vue from Swindon is longer.. and even further still from Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Lol no disrespect but that's a bit of a naive post so you think the 2000+ that Blunsdon would get and perhaps a similar crowd tonight would all attend at a neutral venue? I really don't think you would get that much interest from neutrals after all how many neutrals will go tonight or thursday? Plus how is that fair on fans that can attend a home meeting but not away?? Maybe your right but the Nations cup at Belle Vue was sold out, I would think Swindon are taking a fair few fans to Ipswich tonight, Ipswich can't be any nearer and Belle Vue was only as a example the venue could be anywhere. All the rugby league fans travel to Wembley and they don't get huge crowds on a week to week basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Lol no disrespect but that's a bit of a naive post so you think the 2000+ that Blunsdon would get and perhaps a similar crowd tonight would all attend at a neutral venue? Ipswich should get a lot more than 2000 tonight.... Up the Witches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 The play off final is what all the league racing is about, to have the ability to host a final on your own turf for your own local fans, the money maker grand final... Speedway is one sport that it would simply not work, the average demographic of a speedway fan wouldn't fancy a 2-3hr coach journey as by the time they are there the coach may as well park at the local A&E for all the seized joints that you would expect. The nations league is different as it's an international meeting, people are patriotic and would go support team GB in most events if local to them or if it's a sport you follow you're more likely to travel. Rugby attendances may be poor but they are good in relation to speedway, it's a sport that is more well known to a casual sporting fan than speedway, it's a sport that a fair % of non rugby fans would watch I.e. rugby world cup So if your local rugby team get to a final, day out at Wembley on a weekend and a few mates are going more will attend, most have also had the opportunity at some stage in life to "have a go" at rugby via school etc. Speedway is so far down compared to most sports I think classing speedway as a minority sport is even sometimes being generous, certainly not a professional one at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Maybe your right but the Nations cup at Belle Vue was sold out, I would think Swindon are taking a fair few fans to Ipswich tonight, Ipswich can't be any nearer and Belle Vue was only as a example the venue could be anywhere. All the rugby league fans travel to Wembley and they don't get huge crowds on a week to week basis. Wouldn't it be unfair for the loyal supporters that have supported both teams all season, but for various reasons, health, cost, transport ETC. To miss out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggytastic Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 I will miss my first home meeting this year as I was naive enough to think the playoffs would be over by now so am sitting by the pool in Menorca. Going to be tight but not without hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 It was just a thought, maybe it would work maybe it wouldn't . I know I would be going to both legs of the final if it was my team so a trip to a neutral venue for the final would be fine but I realise that isn't the case with everyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Ipswich should get a lot more than 2000 tonight.... Up the Witches Be near double that I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, theblueboy said: As our learned forumite, The Weasel, has already pointed out, the organisation and leadership of this organisation is shocking. We had a similar issue back in 2012 when 3 times the Poole v Swindon match was attempted before it was finally completed. That was in October too. Lessons learned - nope. As an example, I have been available to attend the original running of both Wolves and Ipswich but cannot attend the re-staged meetings as funnily enough, like most of us, I have work commitments and responsibilities. It is unbelievable that a group of people can continually make the same mistakes 'ad nauseum'. From a Swindon perspective 'young' Kilby seems to have an idea about how to engage the Swindon supporters and coaches have now run to Belle Vue, Wolves and Ipswich. He is also introducing a season ticket payable over a year to ease the tremendous financial burden families face but cleverly, you pay all year round to ensure a reliable cashflow to the club. The rest of the promoters, and I am sure that individually they are nice blokes, however, collectively I wouldn't p*** on any of them and trust them to organise the usual night out in the brewery. Typically, these dinosaurs are too selfish, shortsighted and refuse to see the bigger picture but like dinosaurs, you all know what happens in the end..... Admire anyone that travels on coach to meetings that may or may not be on. Lee has done a fantastic job and crowds have increased at The Arena this year. The sport needs more Kilbys, Bishops... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Ipswich should get a lot more than 2000 tonight.... Up the Witches Yeah fair enough so my point further proven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Listening to the BBC Radio Wiltshire coverage tonight. Come on you Robins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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