cinderfella Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Blupanther said: Are there even enough riders to form one big league ? Well if 3 or 4 clubs don't run next year then I'd say so. One thing that has, IMO, killed speedway was averages below 45pts. Each team has 45 available in a match so that is what teams should be built to. Fans are being cheated when they are given a team with less than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Has he? Can't see one man preventing the leagues amalgamating if that's the way the BSPL want to go. Two leagues, imo, is suicide for British Speedway. And as for CVS saying Wolves will only compete in a top league I must be missing something as only one rider, Lake Becker, rode exclusively for Wolves last year so the other 6 riders were riding in the 'lesser' division. British Speedway has turned from being the best in the world to a joke. There will the normal 3 leagues Lawson signed for kings Lynn & Plymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Well if 3 or 4 clubs don't run next year then I'd say so. One thing that has, IMO, killed speedway was averages below 45pts. Each team has 45 available in a match so that is what teams should be built to. Fans are being cheated when they are given a team with less than that. Don't you mean 42? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Wolverhampton can run a speedway team but they need to field a team containing British riders and affordable ones too. The promoter and his followers should lower their expectations and they might survive. It's so sad when there are riders local to Wolves who would relish the opportunity to race. What about a Shale Track Racing Venue as I'm sure Entain wouldn't turn down a viable prospective proposal. Edited November 4, 2021 by Pieman72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Grachan said: Don't you mean 42? No surely 15 heats of 6pts adds to 90 half of which is 45? If the nominated heat 15 points don't count then why bother having it. Ht15 can be the most expensive ht for promotions and I remember if a match had been won by ht top riders on higher pay wouldn't be nominated. Equally some riders had contracts saying if they wanted to ride in ht 15 they could even if they had scored poorly. Another of speedway's own goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, Pieman72 said: Wolverhampton can run a speedway team but they need to field a team containing British riders and affordable ones too. The promoter and his followers should lower their expectations and they might survive. It's so sad when there are riders local to Wolves who would relish the opportunity to race. What about a Shale Track Racing Venue as I'm sure Entain wouldn't turn down a viable prospective proposal. Nothing to do with costs of riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, cinderfella said: No surely 15 heats of 6pts adds to 90 half of which is 45? If the nominated heat 15 points don't count then why bother having it. Ht15 can be the most expensive ht for promotions and I remember if a match had been won by ht top riders on higher pay wouldn't be nominated. Equally some riders had contracts saying if they wanted to ride in ht 15 they could even if they had scored poorly. Another of speedway's own goals It does count towards the average, but the rider average is the average per ride multiplied by 4. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, cinderfella said: Well if 3 or 4 clubs don't run next year then I'd say so. One thing that has, IMO, killed speedway was averages below 45pts. Each team has 45 available in a match so that is what teams should be built to. Fans are being cheated when they are given a team with less than that. 1 hour ago, Grachan said: Don't you mean 42? 1 hour ago, cinderfella said: No surely 15 heats of 6pts adds to 90 half of which is 45? If the nominated heat 15 points don't count then why bother having it. Ht15 can be the most expensive ht for promotions and I remember if a match had been won by ht top riders on higher pay wouldn't be nominated. Equally some riders had contracts saying if they wanted to ride in ht 15 they could even if they had scored poorly. Another of speedway's own goals 9 minutes ago, Grachan said: It does count towards the average, but the rider average is the average per ride multiplied by 4. No wonder the sport struggles when basics such as this are not understood Fair play Grachan for still taking the time to reply and correct - sad to say I can't be bothered anymore.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: No wonder the sport struggles when basics such as this are not understood Fair play Grachan for still taking the time to reply and correct - sad to say I can't be bothered anymore.... It is quite remarkable how often it comes up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 How many still fill in a programme or buy one at all? A lot of people I see are not aware of averages or team positions and what they mean. It’s racing that is the attraction for many whether it’s heat 2 or heat 15. A radical move would be to combine the leagues give clubs the chance to race on their chosen day. Reduce rider costs but less income so would hasten the sport to a part time activity. We won’t see the likes of Woffenden or Lambert or Bewley but hopefully will produce riders to fill their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, GWC said: How many still fill in a programme or buy one at all? A lot of people I see are not aware of averages or team positions and what they mean. It’s racing that is the attraction for many whether it’s heat 2 or heat 15. A radical move would be to combine the leagues give clubs the chance to race on their chosen day. Reduce rider costs but less income so would hasten the sport to a part time activity. We won’t see the likes of Woffenden or Lambert or Bewley but hopefully will produce riders to fill their place. I've had to start buying programmes recently as Poole scoreboard not working or not got anyone to do it! I relied on it a lot. I just went on british speedway website if I wanted to look at averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Ward Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just go on Speedway Plus and it will generate the program of your choice. Once you have put in the home riders once the next time it automatically puts them in. Takes about 5 mins to do and it’s free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Clive Ward said: Just go on Speedway Plus and it will generate the program of your choice. Once you have put in the home riders once the next time it automatically puts them in. Takes about 5 mins to do and it’s free I've got the rumours about Wolves closing could anyone define what's happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Pieman72 said: I've got the rumours about Wolves closing could anyone define what's happening? What rumours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, noaksey said: What rumours? I suggest Pieman is telling us a PorkiePie! ...... unless it's the rumour of Wolves running in the Premiership on a Monday night and also on a Friday in the Championship and using the same seven riders in both teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lefty said: I suggest Pieman is telling us a PorkiePie! ...... unless it's the rumour of Wolves running in the Premiership on a Monday night and also on a Friday in the Championship and using the same seven riders in both teams. Custard Pie for Pieman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Prediction using 2021 team building regulations: Wolverhampton Sam Masters 8.34 Nick Morris 7.12 Luke Becker 6.95 Scott Nicholls 6.54 Max Clegg 3.51 Connor Bailey 3.00 Leon Flint 4* Total 35.46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 8:37 PM, noaksey said: Custard Pie for Pieman? As said head in the sand and severe anorak behaviour. The way it's going there won't be any teams to race against get real. You need to look beyond Wolverhampton, there is a bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellioth4 Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 WOLFPACK SPEEDWAY SUPPORT TEAM Passionate supporters of Wolverhampton Speedway are proud to announce the launch of the Wolfpack Speedway Support Team. Following the COVID-19 outbreak, the future of many businesses was put into considerable doubt. Wolverhampton Speedway was one such organisation. With the help of fans contributing to a Go Fund Me page, the club was able to continue with restricted crowds towards the start of the season. Speedway clubs are continuing to struggle in what is a difficult economic landscape. With this in mind, the aim of the Wolfpack Speedway Support Team is to help to guarantee the future of Wolverhampton Speedway. We’re asking Wolves fans to contribute £5.00 per month to help the club. We’ll then use the funds for specific items – for example, to help purchase new equipment at the track or to help with one-off costs incurred by the club’s management. All members will receive regular newsletters, which will detail the funds we’ve raised and how they’ve helped the club. We’re also planning prize draws for members, to win both cash and memorabilia. Please help us to ensure the long-term future of Wolverhampton Speedway. If you’re interested, please email: enquiries@wsst.co.uk To find out more, please visit: http://www.wolverhampton-speedway.com/wsst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 6:24 PM, Pieman72 said: Wolverhampton can run a speedway team but they need to field a team containing British riders and affordable ones too. The promoter and his followers should lower their expectations and they might survive. It's so sad when there are riders local to Wolves who would relish the opportunity to race. What about a Shale Track Racing Venue as I'm sure Entain wouldn't turn down a viable prospective proposal. I really have no idea what you are on about. Wolves are one of the most stable promotions around. I cannot see Wolves not running in 2022. If they don't, then British top level speedway is in a hell of a lot of trouble possibly terminal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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