Bagpuss Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, sommelier said: Kemp more than Rowe ? Not a lot between them at the moment from what I’ve seen and of course Rowe appears not to be a rising star pick. It’s a reserve pairing at Ippo which is going to be the envy of many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, gazzac said: I imagine both Rowe and Kemp will be at Ipswich, so Brennen the most likely and to be honest all three are capable of beating each other and think Brennen will be best at Monmore of the 3. As regards their future potential, who knows at the moment, how many times have we seen similar very good youngsters go in very different directions career wise, always think back to Tai and Lewis Bridger being very similar at 17/18, and we know where that went. based on what I saw in 2019 at Perry Barr and on trips to Somerset and Eastbourne and a bit of Brennan in 2020, I would say it's hard to decide between them. Hopefully they will kick on and stabilise as genuine CL second strings possible heat leaders by end of 2022 and develop in to good PL performers. Anything else is a bonus. Kemp seems more confident after a difficult spell at Sheffield, Rowe came on leaps and bounds in latter half of 2019 and carried through 2020, Brennan was very impressive before a bad injury and seems to have got over if based on 2020 rides. Can't do either Kemp or Brennan any harm to ride at a Club that seems to specialise in developing young riders over many decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Do we know who the other four are to go with Kemp and Brennan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Not a lot between them at the moment from what I’ve seen and of course Rowe appears not to be a rising star pick. It’s a reserve pairing at Ippo which is going to be the envy of many. I’d agree in the UK they appear pretty much similar standard. Didn’t both ride in Poland in 2020 as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 bacon at wolves would be my bet brennan at belle vue would be my bet kemp deffo at ipswich sheffield will have one of the thompson twins palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, stevebrum said: I’d agree in the UK they appear pretty much similar standard. Didn’t both ride in Poland in 2020 as well? Only Anders rode in Poland in 2020, Kemp has signed for Gdansk, but will he get a ride as its very tough league to go straight into Polish first division 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: bacon at wolves would be my bet brennan at belle vue would be my bet kemp deffo at ipswich sheffield will have one of the thompson twins palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn If I have understood it properly you can use a Grade 3 or 4 rider for Rising Star rider in the Premier League. If that s the case then on the list that I have seen Josh Bates is on the list of grade 4 riders. If that is the case then I would expect Sheffield to have Josh Bates as their rising star rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: bacon at wolves would be my bet brennan at belle vue would be my bet kemp deffo at ipswich sheffield will have one of the thompson twins palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn Is there not a age limit on rising stars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Bacon and Bates? IMO the scheme should be concentrating on our U21 riders, with all due respect to those two they are never going to be anywhere near international standard. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Bacon and Bates? IMO the scheme should be concentrating on our U21 riders, with all due respect to those two they are never going to be anywhere near international standard. I was very surprised to Josh Bates name on the list, but he is on the list of Grade 4 riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Knock knock..... Who's there? A 28 year old with 6 years in British speedway A 28 year old with 6 years experience in British speedway is a rising star ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Sounded like a good idea to start with,,,, if Bates and Bacon are on it, soon turns it into another load of speedway dribble 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 hours ago, sommelier said: Kemp more than Rowe ? Definitely, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Trackerman48 said: Is there not a age limit on rising stars? Set at 85 to avoid any possible need to test the rule.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 If Bates is a rising star,think Lynn should go with Kerr as theirs. Sorry Wolves fans didn't realise this was your thread. You have a good team lined up imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) On 2/9/2021 at 3:42 PM, Bagpuss said: Bacon and Bates? IMO the scheme should be concentrating on our U21 riders, with all due respect to those two they are never going to be anywhere near international standard. Am a big fan of Tom Bacon. Very professional and immaculate in the way he presents himself, his setup , and how he talks to people - definitely a CVS type of rider. That said, I would say his chance of kicking on to a higher level has probably passed now. Edited February 10, 2021 by MattB 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 8:33 AM, sommelier said: Kemp more than Rowe ? It seems that people rate both riders as much the same or preferring Kemp, How come Kemp is a level 3 then while Rowe is a level 4? Probably fits a team better that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Steve0 said: It seems that people rate both riders as much the same or preferring Kemp, How come Kemp is a level 3 then while Rowe is a level 4? Probably fits a team better that way! If as seems 99% certain both end up at Ipswich then it makes no difference as fits whichever way round Has more impact in CL as 4☆ rating prevents riding in that league as part of the scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 It must be down to 2019 averages in the CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 23 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If as seems 99% certain both end up at Ipswich then it makes no difference as fits whichever way round Has more impact in CL as 4☆ rating prevents riding in that league as part of the scheme It doesn't prevent a 4* rider doing CL in the slightest. All it prevents is that rider being a CL club's Rising Star. The example is Berwick, where 4*,Kyle Bickley is in the 1-6, with 3* Leon Flint the Rising Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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