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1 hour ago, sommelier said:

Kemp more than Rowe ?

Not a lot between them at the moment from what I’ve seen and of course Rowe appears not to be a rising star pick. It’s a reserve pairing at Ippo which is going to be the envy of many. 

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1 hour ago, gazzac said:

 

 

I imagine both Rowe and Kemp will be at Ipswich, so Brennen the most likely and to be honest all three are capable of beating each other and think Brennen will be best at Monmore of the 3.

As regards their future potential, who knows at the moment, how many times have we seen similar very good youngsters go in very different directions career wise,  always think back to Tai and Lewis Bridger being very similar at 17/18, and we know where that went.

based on what I saw in 2019 at Perry Barr and on trips to Somerset and Eastbourne and a bit of Brennan in 2020, I would say it's hard to decide between them. Hopefully they will kick on and stabilise as genuine CL second strings possible heat leaders by end of 2022 and develop in to good PL performers. Anything else is a bonus.

Kemp seems more confident after a difficult spell at Sheffield, Rowe came on leaps and bounds in latter half of 2019 and carried through 2020, Brennan was very impressive before a bad injury and seems to have got over if based on 2020 rides.

Can't do either Kemp or Brennan any harm to ride at a Club that seems to specialise in developing young riders over many decades.

 

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4 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Not a lot between them at the moment from what I’ve seen and of course Rowe appears not to be a rising star pick. It’s a reserve pairing at Ippo which is going to be the envy of many. 

I’d agree in the UK they appear pretty much similar standard. Didn’t both ride in Poland in 2020 as well?

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bacon at wolves would be my bet

 

brennan at belle vue would be my bet

 

kemp deffo at ipswich

 

sheffield will have one of the thompson twins

 

palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn

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38 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

I’d agree in the UK they appear pretty much similar standard. Didn’t both ride in Poland in 2020 as well?

Only Anders rode in Poland in 2020, Kemp has signed for Gdansk, but will he get a ride as its very tough league to go straight into Polish first division

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7 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said:

bacon at wolves would be my bet

 

brennan at belle vue would be my bet

 

kemp deffo at ipswich

 

sheffield will have one of the thompson twins

 

palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn

If I have understood it properly you can use a Grade 3 or 4 rider for Rising Star rider in the Premier League.

If that s the case then on the list that I have seen Josh Bates is on the list of grade 4 riders.

If that is the case then I would expect Sheffield to have Josh Bates as their rising star rider.

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20 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said:

bacon at wolves would be my bet

 

brennan at belle vue would be my bet

 

kemp deffo at ipswich

 

sheffield will have one of the thompson twins

 

palin and the other thompson twin will be at peterborough or lynn

Is there not a age limit on rising stars?

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1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Bacon and Bates? IMO the scheme should be concentrating on our U21 riders, with all due respect to those two they are never going to be anywhere near international standard. 

I was very surprised to Josh Bates name on the list, but he is on the list of Grade 4 riders. 

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4 hours ago, Trackerman48 said:

Is there not a age limit on rising stars?

Set at 85 to avoid any possible need to test the rule....

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On 2/9/2021 at 3:42 PM, Bagpuss said:

Bacon and Bates? IMO the scheme should be concentrating on our U21 riders, with all due respect to those two they are never going to be anywhere near international standard. 

Am a big fan of Tom Bacon.  Very professional and immaculate in the way he presents himself, his setup , and how he talks to people - definitely a CVS type of rider.  That said,  I would say his chance of kicking on to a higher level has probably passed now. 

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29 minutes ago, Steve0 said:

It seems that people rate both riders as much the same or preferring Kemp,  How come Kemp is a level 3 then while Rowe is a level 4?  Probably fits a team better that way!

If as seems 99% certain both end up at Ipswich then it makes no difference as fits whichever way round

Has more impact in CL as 4☆ rating prevents riding in that league as part of the scheme

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23 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

If as seems 99% certain both end up at Ipswich then it makes no difference as fits whichever way round

Has more impact in CL as 4☆ rating prevents riding in that league as part of the scheme

It doesn't prevent a 4* rider doing CL in the slightest.  All it prevents is that rider being a CL club's Rising Star.  The example is Berwick, where 4*,Kyle Bickley is in the 1-6, with 3* Leon Flint the Rising Star. 

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