TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 The majority will say sign Ryan Douglas. I think he's one to avoid from a Wolverhampton perspective. Ryan is a big track rider. Monmore doesn't suit his style. Build around Becker, Masters & Thorssell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Masters. Camera switched to him, stood next to Peter Adams. Adams his usual face, Masters straight faced. Turns, saw camera was on him, breaks into big smile and laughs. Now I know that's the kind of character he is, but it's not what you want to see your No 1 doing on a humiliating night for your team. There are fans who have already stated, if the riders don't care, why should they and next season they may not bother. It's not to say he didn't care... but there is a time and a place and perception can go a long way. Agree 100%. When you are a fan watching your team take a beating the last thing required is "couldn't care less attitude" from team members. I recall a tv meeting from Swindon against the Bees in their last season in the top league. Coventry were being well beaten, and when the camera zoomed in on the pita area two bees riders and the team manager were fooling around in front of the camera. Not a good feeling watching that , then again it is something that would never have happened during the time bees were run by a disciplined management team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: Agree 100%. When you are a fan watching your team take a beating the last thing required is "couldn't care less attitude" from team members. I recall a tv meeting from Swindon against the Bees in their last season in the top league. Coventry were being well beaten, and when the camera zoomed in on the pita area two bees riders and the team manager were fooling around in front of the camera. Not a good feeling watching that , then again it is something that would never have happened during the time bees were run by a disciplined management team. Spur of the moment fun from a former World Champion and a few riders in front of the TV cameras - never happened before or since I suppose. How do you know it wasn’t part of the ‘script’ - ah, that would be because you weren’t part of the management team....... Edited October 11, 2019 by NeilWatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Spur of the moment fun from a former World Champion and a few riders in front of the TV cameras - never happened before or since I suppose. How do you know it wasn’t part of the ‘script’ - ah, that would be because you weren’t part of the management team....... A good management team would be listening to feedback and understanding such actions have absolutely no benefit, only the negative of possible lost fans through the turnstiles. It's not as if the sport can afford that is it. As for never happened before or since, it's certainly a rare thing. Imagine a football manager and players having a laugh in front of a camera as they leave the pitch 3-0 down at half time. There would be outrage from supporters. Your response is absolutely typical of those involved in running the sport and is yet another indication of just how out of touch promoters and management teams can be and another indicator of why the sport in this country is in the mess it is. Time and a place.. when your team is being humiliated, that most certainly isn't it. You already have an annoyed fan base as it is. Edited October 11, 2019 by BWitcher 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, Rockstar99 said: The majority will say sign Ryan Douglas. I think he's one to avoid from a Wolverhampton perspective. Ryan is a big track rider. Monmore doesn't suit his style. Build around Becker, Masters & Thorssell. Can't agree with this. Douglas is one to actively pursue. He's put some good scores in at Monmore and he will only improve there. The fact he has the ability to score well away from home is a massive plus point and something the club needs. Of the other three you mention only Becker would I most certainly sign. Thorssell most likely, but Masters would need some consideration. Some fresh blood is needed and most certainly a leader. I'm not totally convinced Schlein is the answer in that regard although I'm not knocking his efforts for the club. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, BWitcher said: A good management team would be listening to feedback and understanding such actions have absolutely no benefit, only the negative of possible lost fans through the turnstiles. It's not as if the sport can afford that is it. As for never happened before or since, it's certainly a rare thing. Imagine a football manager and players having a laugh in front of a camera as they leave the pitch 3-0 down at half time. There would be outrage from supporters. Your response is absolutely typical of those involved in running the sport and is yet another indication of just how out of touch promoters and management teams can be and another indicator of why the sport in this country is in the mess it is. Time and a place.. when your team is being humiliated, that most certainly isn't it. You already have an annoyed fan base as it is. Saved me the trouble of a reply .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, BWitcher said: A good management team would be listening to feedback and understanding such actions have absolutely no benefit, only the negative of possible lost fans through the turnstiles. It's not as if the sport can afford that is it. As for never happened before or since, it's certainly a rare thing. Imagine a football manager and players having a laugh in front of a camera as they leave the pitch 3-0 down at half time. There would be outrage from supporters. Your response is absolutely typical of those involved in running the sport and is yet another indication of just how out of touch promoters and management teams can be and another indicator of why the sport in this country is in the mess it is. Time and a place.. when your team is being humiliated, that most certainly isn't it. You already have an annoyed fan base as it is. I am sure many a Polish League manager, and team riders, have been filmed having a good laugh when getting beaten... And I am sure their fans would have keenly joined in with such hilarity... Or maybe not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 hours ago, mikebv said: I am sure many a Polish League manager, and team riders, have been filmed having a good laugh when getting beaten... And I am sure their fans would have keenly joined in with such hilarity... Or maybe not? You've earned a like from Neil Watson.. Surely he can't believe you're supporting his words.... surely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 If i was a wolves fan i would definitely want Douglas and Becker. And maybe thorssell other than that not sure the others did enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 8:31 AM, mikebv said: Fair play to Doyle who still seems to treat the UK with the same focus as he does all his racing... Absolutely. I think Doyle deserves such credit for staying loyal to British speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, TheReturn said: Absolutely. I think Doyle deserves such credit for staying loyal to British speedway. Of course he needs a club willing to pay him. Lindgren didn't want to leave Wolves initially, it came down to Wolves cutting their costs.. and thus cutting their crowds.. which means.... well you get it I'm sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Of course he needs a club willing to pay him. Lindgren didn't want to leave Wolves initially, it came down to Wolves cutting their costs.. and thus cutting their crowds.. which means.... well you get it I'm sure. Although I see your point, Wolves crowds must be as good as Swindon, so they should have been able to pay Lindgren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Klindt over Masters/Thorssell anyone ?, certainly Nicolai seems to have refound his mojo over the last 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, greyhoundp said: Klindt over Masters/Thorssell anyone ?, certainly Nicolai seems to have refound his mojo over the last 2 seasons. Gating tart, no thanks. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, greyhoundp said: Klindt over Masters/Thorssell anyone ?, certainly Nicolai seems to have refound his mojo over the last 2 seasons. I think you will find Klindt being a Poole asset, he is not going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: I think you will find Klindt being a Poole asset, he is not going anywhere Absolutely. Klindt has improved quite dramatically over the last couple of seasons and is Pirates rider of the season. He showed promise early in his career but never seemed to fulfil it. Finally he is showing everyone what he is capable of and the Polish top flight is beckoning. No way he will return to Monmore and should be Fords first signing alongside Josh. No way would we want Thorsell who now seems nowhere near the rider he was, even taking injury into consideration, or Masters who’s reached his level and was frankly appalling in the playoffs both here and for his Polish club. Schlein, Douglas, Becker and perhaps Howarth. Depends how much enthusiasm the Wolves management have left. Adams seemed to have little on tv.Is he a promoter there is just an employee? Time to cast loyalty aside and find a younger and more enthusiastic manager? A hard call. Perhaps he realised Wolves game was up when the track got a dousing in the first leg. Would Wolves like to see Adams bow out gracefully and be replaced by Sam Ermolenko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Absolutely. Klindt has improved quite dramatically over the last couple of seasons and is Pirates rider of the season. He showed promise early in his career but never seemed to fulfil it. Finally he is showing everyone what he is capable of and the Polish top flight is beckoning. No way he will return to Monmore and should be Fords first signing alongside Josh. No way would we want Thorsell who now seems nowhere near the rider he was, even taking injury into consideration, or Masters who’s reached his level and was frankly appalling in the playoffs both here and for his Polish club. Schlein, Douglas, Becker and perhaps Howarth. Depends how much enthusiasm the Wolves management have left. Adams seemed to have little on tv.Is he a promoter there is just an employee? Time to cast loyalty aside and find a younger and more enthusiastic manager? A hard call. Perhaps he realised Wolves game was up when the track got a dousing in the first leg. Would Wolves like to see Adams bow out gracefully and be replaced by Sam Ermolenko? I'm sure you know this really Steve, but Peter Adams is a Promoter at Wolverhampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 13 hours ago, proud panther said: Although I see your point, Wolves crowds must be as good as Swindon, so they should have been able to pay Lindgren. They could have payed Lindgren, they took the cheaper option. 4 hours ago, Arthur54 said: I think you will find Klindt being a Poole asset, he is not going anywhere Long may that be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: I'm sure you know this really Steve, but Peter Adams is a Promoter at Wolverhampton. I wasn’t sure though had an inkling. In which case they are stuck with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, stevebrum said: . Long may that be the case. You wouldn’t want Klindt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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