LisaColette Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Beowulf said: I really have no idea what you are on about. Wolves are one of the most stable promotions around. I cannot see Wolves not running in 2022. If they don't, then British top level speedway is in a hell of a lot of trouble possibly terminal. Yet the post above your says Wolves were struggling when there was restricted crowds. Good that they are setting something up so fans can help the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
847084 Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Yet the post above your says Wolves were struggling when there was restricted crowds. Good that they are setting something up so fans can help the club. I wont be the only Wolves fan to see a supreme irony in this initiative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Yet the post above your says Wolves were struggling when there was restricted crowds. Good that they are setting something up so fans can help the club. Peterborough Panthers Speedway Supporters Club have been running what we call a 100 club for years, members pay £10 a month and 50% of money collected each month is paid out to 3 lucky members. Its been running for many years and provides the owners with cash for a variety of articles from air bags, fence panels, track equipment, shale etc or just funds to pay the maintenance bills and running costs associated with a speedway club. Keith Chapman is the latest owner to benefit and has remarked on it several times, this is in addition to the 50/50 raffle at every home meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. Wolves are probably stable but it's British Speedway in general that's in trouble. We really don't know what the situation is as the promotion/promoters say nothing. What a ridiculous position who actually runs British Speedway and what is their position regarding the future? With tracks closing at an alarming rate and other announcing their dire position a more serious pragmatic approach needs to be taken. Ignoring the future has left British Speedway on life support. No training tracks, no training schools, no engagement with local riders, Grasstrack. Going for the nuclear option to bring in expensive non committed foreign riders makes a difficult situation even worse. Am I missing something, in the past there was a possibility for locals to give speedway a go on borrowed equipment. A bunker mentality isn't going to sort out British Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Pieman72 said: I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. Wolves are probably stable but it's British Speedway in general that's in trouble. We really don't know what the situation is as the promotion/promoters say nothing. What a ridiculous position who actually runs British Speedway and what is their position regarding the future? With tracks closing at an alarming rate and other announcing their dire position a more serious pragmatic approach needs to be taken. Ignoring the future has left British Speedway on life support. No training tracks, no training schools, no engagement with local riders, Grasstrack. Going for the nuclear option to bring in expensive non committed foreign riders makes a difficult situation even worse. Am I missing something, in the past there was a possibility for locals to give speedway a go on borrowed equipment. A bunker mentality isn't going to sort out British Speedway. Tell the fans nothing,then ask them to donate to keep the Sport afloat seem to be the way these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Beowulf said: I really have no idea what you are on about. Wolves are one of the most stable promotions around. I cannot see Wolves not running in 2022. If they don't, then British top level speedway is in a hell of a lot of trouble possibly terminal. CVS himself as said himself that Wolves were close to folding and maybe they could still be in that position. But as we know they are sadly not unique to be in that position and all clubs are under threat for one reason or another not just finance. No club is immune to closing. CVS as also stated he won't run unless there is an expansion of the league. Look at Swedish speedway, according to the Star a couple of weeks ago it's basically collapsing in on itself. I remember at Long Eaton where most of the time we lived from season to season and probably most ironically looked forward to the last meeting of the season to find out if we were running the following season. That's speedway, always as been and always will be?? Unless your in Poland but then again it will av a knock on effect over there as well because the riders wont be coming through. Edited November 10, 2021 by PirateShip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntdouble Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 Berwick supporters club run a five-one draw every month. Winner 500 second prize 100. It’s a tenner a month on direct debit and the rest of the money goes into the stars project to help out the club . Currently sitting on over 160 members and has raised over 20k since it started . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Fromafar said: Tell the fans nothing,then ask them to donate to keep the Sport afloat seem to be the way these days. Don't do it. If you put money into a business you need it to be certified and a share of ownership in the company. Avoid !!! Speedway promoters tend to be slippery as we know. Edited November 10, 2021 by Pieman72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Stuntdouble said: Berwick supporters club run a five-one draw every month. Winner 500 second prize 100. It’s a tenner a month on direct debit and the rest of the money goes into the stars project to help out the club . Currently sitting on over 160 members and has raised over 20k since it started . 3rd Prize £50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 10 hours ago, PirateShip said: That's speedway, always as been and always will be?? Unless your in Poland but then again it will av a knock on effect over there as well because the riders wont be coming through. Which is why they have set up the U24 league.. The Football Premier U23 League (and the clubs Academies from a very young age upwards), all have lots of players from overseas to ensure that the quality of the Premier League remains as high as can be.. They know that there isnt enough talent in the UK only to keep that level up, hence pay out many millions collectively to attract some of the best young talent from all parts of the globe... Obviously not all make it in the very top League with some ending up playing either in the lower leagues over here, going back "home" and playing, or joining another league elsewhere... Bottom line being the standard remains high so the product remains saleable.. Poland are adopting a similar model to ensure their Leagues all have a flow through of talent (regardless of nationality), in the years to come.. No point building the hugely successful operating and business models that they now have, to just let it all decline due to not being able to replace "the talent" with a similar level of rider.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 So it looks like 6 teams only in the Premier again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Peter Adams says they are happy with running with 6 teams as they like the plan for the new fixture list. Masters Becker Douglas Stevie Worrall Morris Nicol Flint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 CVS as also stated he won't run unless there is an expansion of the league. Now Podcast with P Adams included. http://speedwaygb.co.uk/podcast Times change quickly, wonder what extra fixtures are ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bluenose said: CVS as also stated he won't run unless there is an expansion of the league. Now Podcast with P Adams included. http://speedwaygb.co.uk/podcast Times change quickly, wonder what extra fixtures are ?. Maybe some cup ones? Might be time for Wolves to have 2022 thread by now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Bluenose said: CVS as also stated he won't run unless there is an expansion of the league. Now Podcast with P Adams included. http://speedwaygb.co.uk/podcast Times change quickly, wonder what extra fixtures are ?. Oh no more foreign riders. What about the future how can you expand when your contracting grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 It needs home and away twice for the league and a secondary competition to start the season.. just the same as the 1964 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Maybe some cup ones? Might be time for Wolves to have 2022 thread by now! There will be other mini league competitions A 4TT league every track hosts a round A Premiership Best Pairs Championship where clubs will host a round each Plus a Premier League riders championship again every club hosting a round Potential for a league cup competition 2 groups of 3 home and away once each group winner into a final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: There will be other mini league competitions A 4TT league every track hosts a round A Premiership Best Pairs Championship where clubs will host a round each Plus a Premier League riders championship again every club hosting a round Potential for a league cup competition 2 groups of 3 home and away once each group winner into a final I think there will be a limit to just how many times people will be prepared to watch the same riders no matter how you dress it up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: There will be other mini league competitions A 4TT league every track hosts a round A Premiership Best Pairs Championship where clubs will host a round each Plus a Premier League riders championship again every club hosting a round Potential for a league cup competition 2 groups of 3 home and away once each group winner into a final More likely league Cup with all 6 home and away once with top 4 to the semi finals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: There will be other mini league competitions A 4TT league every track hosts a round A Premiership Best Pairs Championship where clubs will host a round each Plus a Premier League riders championship again every club hosting a round Potential for a league cup competition 2 groups of 3 home and away once each group winner into a final How about every team races home & away twice, then 6th drops out, remaining 5 race home & away again - 5th drops out, remaining 4 race again etc. Minimum 10 home matches, maximum 20 home matches! Won't happen I know, but would be something different! Edited November 12, 2021 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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