chunky Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 8:55 PM, gustix said: That is an idea lucifer sam. But I think an item on a forum would also be rejected by Wikipedia. Expand The Defunct Speedway website is not a forum. I can see why comments on a forum would be rejected, but would they do that to a standard website? Would Wikipedia staff go through every website to check for its authenticity and legitimacy? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 5:08 PM, lucifer sam said: Gustix, any chance you could please arrange to add something to the Harringay page of the Defunct Speedway page (the track he was most synonymous with), which could then be used as a reference? Expand On 10/11/2019 at 8:55 PM, gustix said: That is an idea lucifer sam. But I think an item on a forum would also be rejected by Wikipedia. The best idea as mentioned previously in this thread is to wait for the sad news to appear in 'Speedway Star' then pass the item on to Wikipedia for the update. Expand My apologies lucifer sam for describing a website as a forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 2:21 PM, gustix said: My apologies lucifer sam for describing a website as a forum. Expand No problem. It was just an idea that Wikipedia might accept a link to a website such as the Defunct Speedway website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I only picked up now that my “namesake” is no longer with us. So sad to hear that Split has died but his name will come up again and again as one of the best riders (or maybe THE best rider?) never to be crowned World Champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) As a postscript to the debate about citing a reference to the date of Split''s death, I have just looked up a number of other deceased speedway riders on Wikipedia. Although all of them give the date of death, not one of them has a citation. Edited October 14, 2019 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Seeme to be one person calling himself "michig" on Wikipedia who keeps deleting stuff every time someone adds the news of Split Waterman's death. I see Norbold and others have updated the news several times. Each time it's the same idiot who undoes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 6:19 PM, PotteringAround said: Seeme to be one person calling himself "michig" on Wikipedia who keeps deleting stuff every time someone adds the news of Split Waterman's death. I see Norbold and others have updated the news several times. Each time it's the same idiot who undoes it. Expand Is there some way this guy michig and his actions can be queried with Wikipedia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 6:27 PM, gustix said: Is there some way this guy michig and his actions can be queried with Wikipedia? Expand Apart from very, very basic editing, I have no idea how Wikipedia works. Maybe Norbold is more clued up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Seems the person prefers to discuss edits on the talk page rather than enter an edit war, although that is basically what is happening here. And that is what is recommended. Comes from Leicester..... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 As far as I understand michig is one of the site's administrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 7:00 PM, norbold said: As far as I understand michig is one of the site's administrators. Expand Yes and it looks like they want to discuss any edits rather than people just doing them. As it mentions, this is a bit ott, but better to talk than just going round in circles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) As has been previously mentioned the answer is for a BSF member to photocopy the report of the sad death of Split Waterman that will appear in this week's edition of 'Speedway Star'. Then forward that to Wikipedia with a note also detailing the sad loss of Split. Unfortunately I cannot do this - I do not get 'Speedway Star' nor have a scanner to copy the news item. Edited October 14, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wikipedia is designed for people to add their own entries and to add their own updates. Obviously, they do have to watch for questionable content, but this straightforward factual information. Again, many of us have updated the site on a number of occasions with no problems whatsoever, but this seems totally ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 9:20 PM, gustix said: As has been previously mentioned the answer is for a BSF member to photocopy the report of the sad death of Split Waterman that will appear in this week's edition of 'Speedway Star'. Then forward that to Wikipedia with a note also detailing the sad loss of Split. Unfortunately I cannot do this - I do not get 'Speedway Star' nor have a scanner to copy the news item. Expand You don't have to scan in anything and send it to them, you just need to cite the date of the Speedway Star it appears in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOS50 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 9:28 PM, chunky said: This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wikipedia is designed for people to add their own entries and to add their own updates. Obviously, they do have to watch for questionable content, but this straightforward factual information. Again, many of us have updated the site on a number of occasions with no problems whatsoever, but this seems totally ridiculous. Expand In that case you could inform Wikipedia of the erroneous assertion that California (nr. Wokingham) is a village, it might help to cheer up your pal the doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 2:32 AM, JOS50 said: In that case you could inform Wikipedia of the erroneous assertion that California (nr. Wokingham) is a village, it might help to cheer up your pal the doctor. Expand Perhaps you need to understand what wikipedia and parishes are before you make "clever" comments fella. You've been made to look foolish on the other thread, maybe keep your head down unless you know what you're talking about eh. #headway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 2:32 AM, JOS50 said: In that case you could inform Wikipedia of the erroneous assertion that California (nr. Wokingham) is a village, it might help to cheer up your pal the doctor. Expand That is not my responsibility, and if we can't get Split Waterman's passing on there, what makes you think we could get anything else changed? Have you ever considered that YOU may be wrong, and that this particular entry in Wikipedia may be inaccurate? I don't just assume that everything I read is correct (particularly if there is a question about it), so I will conduct my own research. I have always been under the impression that California (or California-in-England was not an actual place name, more a term applied to a certain area. I didn't actually know the history of the place until now, and so far, what I have found seems to agree with what The Doctor has said. The ONLY reference to California as a village is that single entry on wikipedia, which was submitted by an individual claiming supposed knowledge of the subject. We all know that due to the origins of the information on there, it is not 100% accurate. Steering away from wikipedia, a couple of the main resources I checked were detailed (and, it would seem, pretty accurate) gazetteer of towns and villages in Berkshire, and one of towns and parishes in Berkshire. There is no reference to it as a village, hamlet, parish, or any other locale with the actual name of California. All reference to "California: or "California-in-England" concerns the park. More to the point, if California WAS a true village or hamlet, then I am pretty sure it would appear on a map of the area. I have yet to find a map on which it is shown, other than in reference to the park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Please!!!! Can we just debate Split Waterman on this thread? There is already a thread debating California. It's title is California name debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 5:54 AM, gustix said: There is already a thread debating California. It's title is California name debate Expand Really? I had no idea! I do apologize most sincerely... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 5:54 AM, gustix said: Please!!!! Can we just debate Split Waterman on this thread? There is already a thread debating California. It's title is California name debate Expand On 10/15/2019 at 12:43 PM, chunky said: Really? I had no idea! I do apologize most sincerely... Expand This thread title is Split Waterman RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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