foreverblue Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Good signing in my opinion, loved him at Poole, would be the first name I would pick, really came on in the last two seasons and very likable character, so good in the pits too, sure to be a great success at Ipswich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 A bit like, did Iversen and Sarj really score more points than KP and Kennett would have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 to be fair with the amount of "top riders" then not many teams can really go the Swindon route anyway, so for me having two solid reserves who can take 7 riders each would be the best way forward, If Holder was available I would have dropped Klindt out of the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: to be fair with the amount of "top riders" then not many teams can really go the Swindon route anyway, so for me having two solid reserves who can take 7 riders each would be the best way forward, If Holder was available I would have dropped Klindt out of the side So basically you are saying our team is going to be weaker than it needs to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: to be fair with the amount of "top riders" then not many teams can really go the Swindon route anyway, so for me having two solid reserves who can take 7 riders each would be the best way forward, If Holder was available I would have dropped Klindt out of the side Dont you expect/want both then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: A bit like, did Iversen and Sarj really score more points than KP and Kennett would have? I think so yes, iversen won some races against opposing heat leaders that i don’t think any of the others would’ve done to get us over the line and into the playoffs and playoff final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Klindt Hans King Allen Heeps Covatti Nicholls 42.5 on the dot before you take away 2.5% reductions. Always going to have 2 strong reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, blue witch said: Klindt Hans King Allen Heeps Covatti Nicholls 42.5 on the dot before you take away 2.5% reductions. Always going to have 2 strong reserves. That would be the best team in the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: That would be the best team in the circumstances. Or with reductions Harris would fit instead of Hans? Not great at home but helps away from home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, blue witch said: Klindt Hans King Allen Heeps Covatti Nicholls 42.5 on the dot before you take away 2.5% reductions. Always going to have 2 strong reserves. I would expect a return to Peterborough for Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, blue witch said: Klindt Hans King Allen Heeps Covatti Nicholls 42.5 on the dot before you take away 2.5% reductions. Always going to have 2 strong reserves. Very similar to last season. Strong and steady but will fall away in the big races and against someone like Swindon, who come strong after heat 11, that team would really struggle. Under the circumstances though, that's the best way for Ipswich to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I would expect a return to Peterborough for Hans. Ipswich and Peterborough will have very similar patterns. No out and out number 1 but solid throughout with good reserves. I think the teams with a genuine top 3 will fair better. BV, Swindon and Sheffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, acef said: Ipswich and Peterborough will have very similar patterns. No out and out number 1 but solid throughout with good reserves. I think the teams with a genuine top 3 will fair better. BV, Swindon and Sheffield If Peterborough can get Harris and Hans along with MPT they will have the basis of a very good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: If Peterborough can get Harris and Hans along with MPT they will have the basis of a very good team. And they will build well around it I'm sure. My concern would be big heats. So let's say 13 for example, Tungate and MPT Vs Batchelor and Doyle. It's a heat advantage to Swindon 9 times from 10 and those races, in the last quarter of the meeting, where both Ipswich and Peterborough will fall away. Will always be in meetings but when it really matters and when it comes to handing out trophy's, I think both will miss out. End of the day the league needs restructuring so all teams have an out and out number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Richard Weston said: No 1 positions at Ipswich last year was a bit of a revolving door but it didn't turn at all shabby in the end. I'll probably take some flak for this but I think Ipswich over achieved last season. I'll admit I had them down to finish well out of the play offs. I think we all did. Take nothing away from them, but that performance in the final was how I was expecting the entire season to pan out. Think they just ran out of steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, acef said: Very similar to last season. Strong and steady but will fall away in the big races and against someone like Swindon, who come strong after heat 11, that team would really struggle. Under the circumstances though, that's the best way for Ipswich to go. Swindon will be good in 13 & 15 but would have Perks/Stewart against Nicholls/Covatti/Allen/Heeps in heats 12 and 14, so 3-3s might be the best they could hope for. I can’t see Rowe picking up any points away from home and Swindon will concede a lot of heat advantages in heats 2 & 8 (and possibly in 4, 12 & 14) Let’s face it, from the riders available, no one, can match Swindon’s top three or four, so building with strength in depth is far better than trying to compete with the same strategy but having weaker riders. I think the teams that have gone for strong top fives, Belle Vue and Sheffield, will be more exposed when one of their riders has an off night. That Ipswich team looks like it could cover two riders having an off night and I think it’s the best way to go, making them joint favourites with Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If Peterborough can get Harris and Hans along with MPT they will have the basis of a very good team........ .........in the Championship Edited December 17, 2019 by Daniel Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siggysigalos Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Klindt is a solid signing,good round Foxhall and to be fair most other tracks,im not good on averages as you Guys,but assuming Danny King will be the 4th Witch announced,does the signing of Klindt now rule out Chris Holder or a Proper Number 1,and have we still got a chance of Nicholls and Covatti at Reserve,or is that me dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, DC2 said: Swindon will be good in 13 & 15 but would have Perks/Stewart against Nicholls/Covatti/Allen/Heeps in heats 12 and 14, so 3-3s might be the best they could hope for. I can’t see Rowe picking up any points away from home and Swindon will concede a lot of heat advantages in heats 2 & 8 (and possibly in 4, 12 & 14) Let’s face it, from the riders available, no one, can match Swindon’s top three or four, so building with strength in depth is far better than trying to compete with the same strategy but having weaker riders. I think the teams that have gone for strong top fives, Belle Vue and Sheffield, will be more exposed when one of their riders has an off night. That Ipswich team looks like it could cover two riders having an off night and I think it’s the best way to go, making them joint favourites with Swindon. BV will cover it better. Despite the quality of the top 5 we have much better reserves this time. Better than Swindon and Sheffield imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Ipswich don't need a No.1 and neither do Peterborough. Only 2 legit No.1's in this league Doyle & R. Lambert. What ever Ipswich & Peterborough lose out on in Heats 13 & 15 against teams like Sheffield & Swindon will be levelled out because Ipswich & Peterborough will hit a 5-1 9 times out of 10 in Heat 2 whilst having the beating of reserve pairings like Perks & Rowe, A. Morris & T. Kurtz. Solid 1-7 is better than a No.1 and weak reserves. Out and out No.1 means nothing if tail end isn't up to scratch. For example Doyle, Batch & Jensen would outscore Klindt, King and the other HL but at the same time. Allen, Covatti & the other TBA would outscore Stewart, Perks & Rowe by the same margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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