BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Speedway fan said: so they just give up now do they? Well that's not going to happen ....get behind the people trying to save the club . It's all false hope. Just no way Birmingham get a 1,000 fans turn up at every home meeting. Dodgy weather forecast keeps many fans away these days, Then you get the odd farce meeting full of guests and R/R which see's a low attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Speedway clubs need to break away from venues owned by other parties such as greyhound stadiums as it's not a viable way to survive anymore. Yep I know, easier said than done unless u av a few bob in yer back pocket. We wouldn't have Belle Vue if they hadn't moved but of course no one would expect a NSS for every club. Is the Wheels Project at Adderley Park worth a consideration? I guess this would have already been considered. I went there in '85 to watch Long Eaton and numerous other meetings. From what I know the stadium is still there as you can see the floodlights when your on a passing train. Edited November 17, 2021 by PirateShip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Birmingham Bordesley Green (Wheels Project) (defunctspeedway.co.uk) To quote: 'The wheels project is still used by stock cars and could house speedway again, with very little work if the Greyhound Stadium ever runs into trouble running the speedway' Edited November 17, 2021 by PirateShip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway fan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, PirateShip said: Birmingham Bordesley Green (Wheels Project) (defunctspeedway.co.uk) To quote: 'The wheels project is still used by stock cars and could house speedway again, with very little work if the Greyhound Stadium ever runs into trouble running the speedway' The wheels project closed a few weeks ago and the leaseholder has handed the keys back . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Birmingham Wheels told to leave site due to Japanese Knotweed infestation - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk) Oh, but then I've just read this about Japanese Knotweed infestation and Philip Bond having his lease terminated 31st October 2021 at the venue. Jeez, the council are ***** ***** **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway fan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: It's all false hope. Just no way Birmingham get a 1,000 fans turn up at every home meeting. Dodgy weather forecast keeps many fans away these days, Then you get the odd farce meeting full of guests and R/R which see's a low attendance. well the consortium are not giving up and have big plans and will be working hard on marketing and promotion in a variety of ways . You may be a pessimist thankfully they aren't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 As Phil Collins once sang ........after Cradley closed? And you coming back to me is against all the odds, It's the chance I gotta take. We at Long Eaton still meet up once a month dreaming into our pint glass, and also thinking it's half full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 hours ago, PirateShip said: So is a 7 foot waiter! Matt and Danny could get you to do the jokes at the Poole end of season do...on the other hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: It's all false hope. Just no way Birmingham get a 1,000 fans turn up at every home meeting. Dodgy weather forecast keeps many fans away these days, Then you get the odd farce meeting full of guests and R/R which see's a low attendance. It's better to try and fail than fail to try!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, FromBendThree said: Matt and Danny could get you to do the jokes at the Poole end of season do...on the other hand Scores on the doors Miss Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 would the national league be more viable? Less wages and 99% of crowd would still turn up. There could be an extra competition/mini league for those national league teams that want more fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, Speedway fan said: well the consortium are not giving up and have big plans and will be working hard on marketing and promotion in a variety of ways . You may be a pessimist thankfully they aren't Lol. False hope will only prolong the pain once the inevitable happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, PirateShip said: It's better to try and fail than fail to try!!! On realistic terms I would agree but they aren't going to get 1,000 fans to turn up at every home meeting as it's an unrealistic target by a distance. Premiership clubs don't get anywhere near that most weeks and that's with higher quality 1-7's on show. Let's say they run just for the sake of it.........They'd be left with the scraps to build an uncompetitive 1-7 and then they'll need 1,000 fans to pay up every week to watch them. It's just so unrealistic and the writing is on the wall either way. They'll either not run or they'll take a huge risk and run to fight a losing battle and they'll go bust mid season and pull out like Eastbourne did this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 I wouldn't normally react to negative postings, but here we have a group of people working really hard to keep our club in business - and the response we get from a significant minority of posters, who still purport to call themselves speedway enthusiasts, is to just to sneeringly pour scorn on their efforts. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: On realistic terms I would agree but they aren't going to get 1,000 fans to turn up at every home meeting as it's an unrealistic target by a distance. Premiership clubs don't get anywhere near that most weeks and that's with higher quality 1-7's on show. Let's say they run just for the sake of it.........They'd be left with the scraps to build an uncompetitive 1-7 and then they'll need 1,000 fans to pay up every week to watch them. It's just so unrealistic and the writing is on the wall either way. They'll either not run or they'll take a huge risk and run to fight a losing battle and they'll go bust mid season and pull out like Eastbourne did this year. There isn't a club in the premiership that doesn't hit 1000 every meeting. I don't think people are understanding the sponsorship side of things. That is a massive source for every club going. If they sort some good partner sponsors out the figure will dramatically be reduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, brianbuck said: I wouldn't normally react to negative postings, but here we have a group of people working really hard to keep our club in business - and the response we get from a significant minority of posters, who still purport to call themselves speedway enthusiasts, is to just to sneeringly pour scorn on their efforts. Keep up hard work Brian, if it wasn't for people like ur good self where wud speedway be?.....Nowhere! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Trackerman48 said: Not at Birmingham unfortunately, but I hope it can be done . Only this season did redcar get that sort of crowd? Whilst Redcars crowd average was up this year , as it has been year on year since 2017, it doesn’t get the four figure crowd that Birmingham appear to need but, due to good leadership, this is offset by very good club sponsors. Personally I think that’s not an achievable figure under the circumstances they find them selves in. Demanding Landlord, bad previous history in 2021 and will be putting a team together after every other club ? Recipe for another disastrous season? Edited November 17, 2021 by Fortythirtyeight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Oddly enough the mason family would have been ideal custodians of arlington stadium , theyve slung plenty in at brum and its basically burning money . Any consortium / partnership etc really would be barmy to get involved with arc at the wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, brianbuck said: I wouldn't normally react to negative postings, but here we have a group of people working really hard to keep our club in business - and the response we get from a significant minority of posters, who still purport to call themselves speedway enthusiasts, is to just to sneeringly pour scorn on their efforts. Be the usual suspects who bask in the struggles of the sport whilst doing nothing themselves to help it go forward waiting eagerly to say I told you so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Why not approach Troy Deeney or any of the other Birmingham City players to sponsor a meeting or two. What Brummies (and most other clubs) need to break even is simply pocket money to most footballers at Championship level or higher and seeing a soccer player's name linked to a speedway club could even attract a few more spectators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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