Col Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 So that's it... season over. Time for grades. Harris.. B- most entertaining rider at PB, misses the gate too often but always has. Grobauer. F. Anonymous in terms of racing & scores. Morris. C. Inconsistently infuriating. Shanes. E. Can be the fastest rider at PB, after the first lap Performances have deteriorated badly as the season came to an end. Riss. D. Not the heat leader I thought he'd be. Castagna. B+. The only reason Brummies win at home. Thomas. C+. Has got better, can be too tentative at times when track is tricky. Promotion. D. Nobody wants to hear promoters whining. Track Staff. Z. Just awful, dusty, bumpy, unraceable, inconsistent... everything you don't want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Col said: So that's it... season over. Time for grades. Harris.. B- most entertaining rider at PB, misses the gate too often but always has. Grobauer. F. Anonymous in terms of racing & scores. Morris. C. Inconsistently infuriating. Shanes. E. Can be the fastest rider at PB, after the first lap Performances have deteriorated badly as the season came to an end. Riss. D. Not the heat leader I thought he'd be. Castagna. B+. The only reason Brummies win at home. Thomas. C+. Has got better, can be too tentative at times when track is tricky. Promotion. D. Nobody wants to hear promoters whining. Track Staff. Z. Just awful, dusty, bumpy, unraceable, inconsistent... everything you don't want. I like your grading of riders and 'take' on the season.... Harris = A+ :gave everything in every match...a TRUE LEGEND IMO! Grobauer = E :an absolute waste of space! Morris = C : Hit and miss as always! Shanes = E : Not up to Championship level IMO! Riss = Z : woeful, I wouldn't give him the time of day! Castagna = B : did his best and on his day performed well....lots of potential, just lacks that 'bottle' to go up a level ! Thomas = C : Potential is there, hope he can kick on! Promotion = A : purely for just sticking at it, when it would have been far easier to give up! Track Preparation (can't blame the staff....no shale/dodgy equipment....) disappointing...made for lack lustre racing....however Chris Harris's performances 'negate' my opinion. It obviously took a rider with deft skill and huge bottle to get something out of it...... It's a shame we signed a bunch of non-gaters and supplied a 'gating' track ??? NO LOGIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 hours ago, GiveusaB said: I like your grading of riders and 'take' on the season.... Harris = A+ :gave everything in every match...a TRUE LEGEND IMO! Grobauer = E :an absolute waste of space! Morris = C : Hit and miss as always! Shanes = E : Not up to Championship level IMO! Riss = Z : woeful, I wouldn't give him the time of day! Castagna = B : did his best and on his day performed well....lots of potential, just lacks that 'bottle' to go up a level ! Thomas = C : Potential is there, hope he can kick on! Promotion = A : purely for just sticking at it, when it would have been far easier to give up! Track Preparation (can't blame the staff....no shale/dodgy equipment....) disappointing...made for lack lustre racing....however Chris Harris's performances 'negate' my opinion. It obviously took a rider with deft skill and huge bottle to get something out of it...... It's a shame we signed a bunch of non-gaters and supplied a 'gating' track ??? NO LOGIC! Riss probably looking after his average for whoever he rides for next season.He is very inconsistent though,not sure what to make of him, thought he was going places after his 1st season atEdinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Riss probably looking after his average for whoever he rides for next season.He is very inconsistent though,not sure what to make of him, thought he was going places after his 1st season atEdinburgh. He's certainly got 'something'....but like you say, it's if/when he wants to use it? I wouldn't sign him again ! (Not that we'll have the option ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: He's certainly got 'something'....but like you say, it's if/when he wants to use it? I wouldn't sign him again ! (Not that we'll have the option ) Germans who used to ride for Edinburgh have previous... Just saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I think Riss is struggling with the new tyres like a lot of riders, tho some do seem to have found a way of making them work. Sometimes when riders are happy and performing and then get a change like that it really affects them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 An Edinburgh fan I was fortunate enough to spend the evening talking to said Riss was likely to give British Speedway a miss next year, doesn't like the tracks. Don't think he's been intentionally lowering his average, has had a poor season for Kings Lynn also. Certainly not the rider who romped to a 15 point maximum for Redcar in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Col said: An Edinburgh fan I was fortunate enough to spend the evening talking to said Riss was likely to give British Speedway a miss next year, doesn't like the tracks. Don't think he's been intentionally lowering his average, has had a poor season for Kings Lynn also. Certainly not the rider who romped to a 15 point maximum for Redcar in 2019. Average not that low - 8 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Col said: An Edinburgh fan I was fortunate enough to spend the evening talking to said Riss was likely to give British Speedway a miss next year, doesn't like the tracks. Don't think he's been intentionally lowering his average, has had a poor season for Kings Lynn also. Certainly not the rider who romped to a 15 point maximum for Redcar in 2019. Strange because when I spoke to him he said that he'd be happy to stay in British speedway because its better paid than Denmark and Sweden. Only the top league in Poland is better and he's not at that level yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Average not that low - 8 points Which suggests his season hasn't been as disastrous as people make out really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 The decline in performances by Erik Riss is a total shock, when I watched him become the Championship Riders' champion he was absolutely smashing it. I believed he could fly............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, PirateShip said: The decline in performances by Erik Riss is a total shock, when I watched him become the Championship Riders' champion he was absolutely smashing it. I believed he could fly............. He is class. When he feels in the mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Riss seems to struggle when the pressure is on. You only have to see his heat 15 away at Plymouth and I think both heat 13 and 15 at the championship match at Edinburgh, it's either a tape infringement or first bend collision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Endeavour said: Average not that low - 8 points With the rolling averages they can't change as much. How Castagna remained at reserve with Shanes & Grobauer in the team is beyond odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Col said: With the rolling averages they can't change as much. How Castagna remained at reserve with Shanes & Grobauer in the team is beyond odd. Rolling averages are based on the last 20 meetings meaning Riss' average is based solely on 2021 meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Marshall07 said: Rolling averages are based on the last 20 meetings meaning Riss' average is based solely on 2021 meetings. I still say it’s average protection with a lot of riders.Need aTeam for following season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, Fromafar said: I still say it’s average protection with a lot of riders.Need aTeam for following season. He could've at least put some effort in against Edinburgh in the Cup matches ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Thoughts on Perry Barr, Iv looked at the Greyhound fixtures and it seems Perry Barr is free on Sundays. Iv thought for a few seasons there is an obvious way to save Speedway at Perry Barr, but i know some fans are set against it for whatever reason. There are some things that cant be changed such as prices of food etc etc at PB, however the Speedway could be subject to approval by the BSPl, double headers have been held at various times over seasons for as long as i can remember, so why not make double headers at Perry Barr a regular thing involving not 1 home Team but 2 these being Birmingham Brummies and Cradley Heathens putting it bluntly a Track share by not 1 but 2 teams which could encompass two seperate promotions (or One) whichever was achievable. The biggest factor in this would be cost savings by the Promotion due to a sharing of Costs for Rent, Equipment, etc etc. This may or may not mean The Brummies could survive and would also enable The Heathens to return with meaningful racing and i do not mean NDL racing by either I mean Championship or/and Premier League racing for both Teams. Iv no idea if this is do-able but just thinking of a way forward which could help both Teams, because it seems ridiculous to me that we may have a Track available (Hopefully) which wont be used should Birmingham not find a new Promoter, when a few miles away we have another Team that has support but NO Track to ride on, I know there are some supporters dead set against this for whatever reason not least PB being unpopular with Cradley fans, this would be a full blown Track Share rather than the previous Lanlord (Brummies) and (Rent Boys) Cradley, Is it do-able providing Promoters can be found ?, and obviously subject to BSPL and ARC at Perry Barr. Edited October 3, 2021 by heathen52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, heathen52 said: Is it do-able providing Promoters can be found ?, and obviously subject to BSPL and ARC at Perry Barr. Not "do-able". It's nothing to do with BSPL/ARC approval, BCC planning permission wouldn't be granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Paco made a good recovery from man flu to ride in Czech Golden Helmet today along with Bomber Edited October 3, 2021 by zlata prilba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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