Sidney the robin Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: Rob Ledwith has not ridden second tier speedway for a quarter of a century (when there was no third tier I ll add) and is also on a 4.0..... which seems astonishing to me, even more so when he had an assessed 3.5 average in the NL last year. Totally agree Teaboy i know speedway has always to some exstent been a number's game but Rob's case clearly shows the rules in some cases are not right.Gutted for Hume again he has been unlucky overall plenty of youngsters in the Championship.ie) Kemp, Palin, Lawlor, Thomas, Thompson x2 Rowe, Gilkes, Bailey (ect). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Totally agree Teaboy i know speedway has always to some exstent been a number's game but Rob's case clearly shows the rules in some cases are not right.Gutted for Hume again he has been unlucky overall plenty of youngsters in the Championship.ie) Kemp, Palin, Lawlor, Thomas, Thompson x2 Rowe, Gilkes, Bailey (ect). You can add Leon Flint to that list shame as Henry Atkins looks set to miss out too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: You can add Leon Flint to that list shame as Henry Atkins looks set to miss out too? Yes young Flint/ Bickley forgot those two, with the reserves in place as they are it will be very interesting to see who goes at number six.Does the rule state it has to be the senior reserve at number six ? for these youngsters being at number seven that has to be an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Yes young Flint/ Bickley forgot those two, with the reserves in place as they are it will be very interesting to see who goes at number six.Does the rule state it has to be the senior reserve at number six ? for these youngsters being at number seven that has to be an advantage. I think the problem we have with reserves trying to progress, is that you can get away with just one strong reserve if the manager is tactically astute? The stronger reserve can/will replace the weaker one in 2 of their heats and then the weaker reserve will sometimes get thrown in to a tougher race, whereby he'll replace an average second string rider , or someone who's having an off night? I think it's a tactic that a lot of managers come in for criticism for not using the right reserve at the right time? (i'm certainly guilty of 'gobbing' off when i think that the manager has made an error?) sometimes I get it right and sometimes not !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I think the problem we have with reserves trying to progress, is that you can get away with just one strong reserve if the manager is tactically astute? The stronger reserve can/will replace the weaker one in 2 of their heats and then the weaker reserve will sometimes get thrown in to a tougher race, whereby he'll replace an average second string rider , or someone who's having an off night? I think it's a tactic that a lot of managers come in for criticism for not using the right reserve at the right time? (i'm certainly guilty of 'gobbing' off when i think that the manager has made an error?) sometimes I get it right and sometimes not !? It is so hard, as a club you want young riders some who might be longterm asset's to progress but you have to think of the now as well.At Swindon we have young Anders i am really keeping my fingers crossed that he can be on the pace but i know Ellis Perks will more and likely swap races at times.A real dilemma and that is the brutality of sport i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: It is so hard, as a club you want young riders some who might be longterm asset's to progress but you have to think of the now as well.At Swindon we have young Anders i am really keeping my fingers crossed that he can be on the pace but i know Ellis Perks will more and likely swap races at times.A real dilemma and that is the brutality of sport i suppose. I guess that they (the young uns) can still learn a lot by just being in the team.....set-ups.....track technique's etc..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 hours ago, szkocjasid said: 2) i think a 4.00 ave is very generous and see no reason for it to be any lower! Are we talking about the former Premier League Riders Champion, James Wright? Last time I can recall a rider coming in out of the cold after a long lay off like this was Andrew Silver at Rye House in 2009. If I recall, he ended up with an average well above 4.00 and he wasn't half the rider that James Wright was. If "Rizzla" Wright has been allocated a 4.00 average then that's a bargain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Are we talking about the former Premier League Riders Champion, James Wright? Last time I can recall a rider coming in out of the cold after a long lay off like this was Andrew Silver at Rye House in 2009. If I recall, he ended up with an average well above 4.00 and he wasn't half the rider that James Wright was. If "Rizzla" Wright has been allocated a 4.00 average then that's a bargain. Beg to differ regarding your comparison of Silver and Wright. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, uk_martin said: Are we talking about the former Premier League Riders Champion, James Wright? Last time I can recall a rider coming in out of the cold after a long lay off like this was Andrew Silver at Rye House in 2009. If I recall, he ended up with an average well above 4.00 and he wasn't half the rider that James Wright was. If "Rizzla" Wright has been allocated a 4.00 average then that's a bargain. You are joking ? as much as i like James Wright and have always followed his career have a look at what Andrew Silver achieved in his.speedway career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Are the Birmingham Bulls running in 2020 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chris116 said: The Bulls website show their first game at home is on Sunday 19th April at 2pm against Ouse Valley Eagles. They dont have a website . Are you aware this is a speedway forum ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: They dont have a website . Are you aware this is a speedway forum ? I am well aware of what this site is. Birmingham Bulls are an American Football team and I tried to answer your question. I won't bother again. Edited January 8, 2020 by Chris116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Chris116 said: I am well aware of what this site is. But Birmingham Bulls are an American Football team and I tried to answer your question. I won't bother again. Yes i am aware of this also . I am not sure whether you are winding me up or not . The Birmingham Bulls is the name of our Junior team (SPEEDWAY) that has been running from Perry for the past 2 seasons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chris116 said: I am well aware of what this site is. Birmingham Bulls are an American Football team and I tried to answer your question. I won't bother again. Best to walk away from them Chris. You made a genuine mistake while trying to help them. Clearly best not to try. Plenty of other places to talk here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, RobMcCaffery said: Best to walk away from them Chris. You made a genuine mistake while trying to help them. Clearly best not to try. Plenty of other places to talk here. I walked away from replying to anything on this site a few days ago and made the bad mistake of trying to help, something that does not seem to be liked around here. Having been at my first meeting in 1955 at Rye House, a fan of Wimbledon then Arena Essex than Skegness and then back to Rye House before it closed. Last season I saw just two meetings on the Isle of Wight and following the last week on here I think I will join the former supporter who don't go and have lost interest because the past few days have convinced me I don't want to be involved in this site or Speedway. Although I may read your reply I will not answer it and I will remove this site from my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Best to walk away from them Chris. You made a genuine mistake while trying to help them. Clearly best not to try. Plenty of other places to talk here. Mr high and mighty get a sense of humour .I notice you like to talk down to people alot . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Chris116 said: I walked away from replying to anything on this site a few days ago and made the bad mistake of trying to help, something that does not seem to be liked around here. Having been at my first meeting in 1955 at Rye House, a fan of Wimbledon then Arena Essex than Skegness and then back to Rye House before it closed. Last season I saw just two meetings on the Isle of Wight and following the last week on here I think I will join the former supporter who don't go and have lost interest because the past few days have convinced me I don't want to be involved in this site or Speedway. Although I may read your reply I will not answer it and I will remove this site from my computer. Well thats a shame . A huge over reaction but your choice . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Beg to differ regarding your comparison of Silver and Wright. Totally agree! Silver was a very stylish (leg-trailer if I remember?) rider! All out action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris116 said: I walked away from replying to anything on this site a few days ago and made the bad mistake of trying to help, something that does not seem to be liked around here. Having been at my first meeting in 1955 at Rye House, a fan of Wimbledon then Arena Essex than Skegness and then back to Rye House before it closed. Last season I saw just two meetings on the Isle of Wight and following the last week on here I think I will join the former supporter who don't go and have lost interest because the past few days have convinced me I don't want to be involved in this site or Speedway. Although I may read your reply I will not answer it and I will remove this site from my computer. Don't walk away completely.Jus take a couple of months not visiting the British Speedway Forum, then return in a refreshed state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 hours ago, uk_martin said: Are we talking about the former Premier League Riders Champion, James Wright? Last time I can recall a rider coming in out of the cold after a long lay off like this was Andrew Silver at Rye House in 2009. If I recall, he ended up with an average well above 4.00 and he wasn't half the rider that James Wright was. If "Rizzla" Wright has been allocated a 4.00 average then that's a bargain. Bear in mind someone has commented Wright should be on a 2.00 ave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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