Speedway fan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 The MD of the greyhound company has been on holiday and back today and the consortium leader is due to call her tomorrow ...therefore until they speak the agreement to run is awaited then the consortium will finalise the deal to takeover Birmingham Speedway from the outgoing Mason family. Therefore the next few days are important for the club with the new potential owners ready to confirm everything for the 2022 season --- and formulating the Brummies side can be sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Speedway fan said: The MD of the greyhound company has been on holiday and back today and the consortium leader is due to call her tomorrow ...therefore until they speak the agreement to run is awaited then the consortium will finalise the deal to takeover Birmingham Speedway from the outgoing Mason family. Therefore the next few days are important for the club with the new potential owners ready to confirm everything for the 2022 season --- and formulating the Brummies side can be sorted I was told this today about the MD, hopefully it will be sorted in Brummies favour, but what I heard is the owners of Perry Barr stadium will want the rental fee upfront, there is no guarantee brummies will generate the income from attendances alone, so there must be a big sponsorship incoming to make 2022 possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway fan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: I was told this today about the MD, hopefully it will be sorted in Brummies favour, but what I heard is the owners of Perry Barr stadium will want the rental fee upfront, there is no guarantee brummies will generate the income from attendances alone, so there must be a big sponsorship incoming to make 2022 possible not correct on the rental fee but there will be advance payments made by the consortium not the whole annual rental fee ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 questions. 1 Is there anyone who really thinks that Birmingham can average 1000 fans per meeting? 2 Can Birmingham run 20 meetings next season (If not the rent will be higher per meeting) 3 Can anyone give me a competitive 1-7 with riders that are not already fixed up. Now I want the Brummies to run next season as much as anyone, But what I don’t want is to see them start the season then collapse part way through the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 I’m hoping there’s a problems with the dogs and the stadium owners need the Brummies back to help to bring money into the stadium.In the last few years I’ve attended Rye House and Birmingham hopefully they will both return to league racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: I’m hoping there’s a problems with the dogs and the stadium owners need the Brummies back to help to bring money into the stadium.In the last few years I’ve attended Rye House and Birmingham hopefully they will both return to league racing Then Birmingham lose another sport if there is a problem with the dogs, we've already lost one greyhound stadium in the city, I know the council don't give a flying toss about sport in this city, but we the residents of the city do care, if Perry Barr had problems the stadium would fall into disrepair and stand empty like it did for years many moons ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Then Birmingham lose another sport if there is a problem with the dogs, we've already lost one greyhound stadium in the city, I know the council don't give a flying toss about sport in this city, but we the residents of the city do care, if Perry Barr had problems the stadium would fall into disrepair and stand empty like it did for years many moons ago You’ve misunderstood me lm hoping that the greyhound’s will need speedway and the stadium owners welcome back the speedway promoters with open arms rather than making it hard for the Brummies to return 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said: You’ve misunderstood me lm hoping that the greyhound’s will need speedway and the stadium owners welcome back the speedway promoters with open arms rather than making it hard for the Brummies to return The problem is ARC and their "business model". They have realised that they can run Dogs with or without Crowds during Covid 19. By getting Betting Levy income they can run behind closed doors, minimal staff, minimal costs and make more profit in a couple of days than Speedway (or anything else) will pay in a season in rent. Their argument would be that they don't need the hassle! Live Dog racing beamed round the globe is as close to a virtual sport in the flesh as you can get. They have taken over Perry Barr, Newcastle ; Sittingbourne. Hopefully no more dog / speedway venues will fall in to their clutches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HGould said: The problem is ARC and their "business model". They have realised that they can run Dogs with or without Crowds during Covid 19. By getting Betting Levy income they can run behind closed doors, minimal staff, minimal costs and make more profit in a couple of days than Speedway (or anything else) will pay in a season in rent. Their argument would be that they don't need the hassle! Live Dog racing beamed round the globe is as close to a virtual sport in the flesh as you can get. They have taken over Perry Barr, Newcastle ; Sittingbourne. Hopefully no more dog / speedway venues will fall in to their clutches. Worryingly they don't need existing stadia to do that. They could build a track in the middle of nowhere and just run it 24x7. Perhaps that's their long term aim, but I feel more stadia under them will get sold once they realise this. Edited November 30, 2021 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Gerbat1875 said: Then Birmingham lose another sport if there is a problem with the dogs, we've already lost one greyhound stadium in the city, I know the council don't give a flying toss about sport in this city, but we the residents of the city do care, if Perry Barr had problems the stadium would fall into disrepair and stand empty like it did for years many moons ago The Council ? bunch of t#ssers! The only sport they promote and care about is CRICKET! Say no more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsboy Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Argos said: 3 questions. 1 Is there anyone who really thinks that Birmingham can average 1000 fans per meeting? 2 Can Birmingham run 20 meetings next season (If not the rent will be higher per meeting) 3 Can anyone give me a competitive 1-7 with riders that are not already fixed up. Now I want the Brummies to run next season as much as anyone, But what I don’t want is to see them start the season then collapse part way through the season. 1000 unless more sponsorship is found was what was being quoted? Don't want be negative but i think they will struggle to hit a thousand each meeting. Lets hope they prove us all wrong and at least they have not given up on saving their club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, HGould said: The problem is ARC and their "business model". They have realised that they can run Dogs with or without Crowds during Covid 19. By getting Betting Levy income they can run behind closed doors, minimal staff, minimal costs and make more profit in a couple of days than Speedway (or anything else) will pay in a season in rent. Their argument would be that they don't need the hassle! Live Dog racing beamed round the globe is as close to a virtual sport in the flesh as you can get. They have taken over Perry Barr, Newcastle ; Sittingbourne. Hopefully no more dog / speedway venues will fall in to their clutches. As an ex dog man, who still has contacts within the Sport this is 100% correct, the only thing you forgot to mention is ARC also have major interests in Horse racing Tracks, but the model is pretty much the same with that ie all weather Tracks if possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: You’ve misunderstood me lm hoping that the greyhound’s will need speedway and the stadium owners welcome back the speedway promoters with open arms rather than making it hard for the Brummies to return In my opinion the council don't want speedway in Birmingham, The Arc don't want speedway at any of their stadiums, hence the high rents, once the commonwealth games are over only the mainstream football and cricket will be in this city, don't forget they won't let Moseley rugby club have any sort of stadium, just an old playing fields that was once used for Sunday league football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Gerbat1875 said: In my opinion the council don't want speedway in Birmingham. Rubbish. Only fans not turning up will kill Birmingham Speedway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies23 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Argos said: 3 questions. 1 Is there anyone who really thinks that Birmingham can average 1000 fans per meeting? 2 Can Birmingham run 20 meetings next season (If not the rent will be higher per meeting) 3 Can anyone give me a competitive 1-7 with riders that are not already fixed up. Now I want the Brummies to run next season as much as anyone, But what I don’t want is to see them start the season then collapse part way through the season. Depending if they want to come ride for the brummies that’s another question.. 1) Sam Masters. 9.88 2) paco 5.52 3) Ryan Douglas 7.74 4) Tero Aarnio 6.94 5) Danny king or martin smolinski 6) joe Thompson 7) jack thomas That the team I look to build 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Deano said: Rubbish. Only fans not turning up will kill Birmingham Speedway. Not Rubbish, go and speak to the Perry Barr MP, he will tell what the locals feel about speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Brummies23 said: Depending if they want to come ride for the brummies that’s another question.. 1) Sam Masters. 9.88 2) paco 5.52 3) Ryan Douglas 7.74 4) Tero Aarnio 6.94 5) Danny king or martin smolinski 6) joe Thompson 7) jack thomas That the team I look to build Then you woke up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gerbat1875 said: Not Rubbish, go and speak to the Perry Barr MP, he will tell what the locals feel about speedway So tell me what he said? And who is complaining? Save me the effort. Also an MP doesn’t sit on the council. Edited November 30, 2021 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 Its nowt to do with the Council how many fans watch Birmingham Speedway, do the Councillors tell Brummies to stay away or otherwise ?. The biggest issue Birmingham Speedway need to overcome apart from how many watch meetings is the apparent lack of security at the Stadium, and gaining more access to the Track to do remedial work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Brummies23 said: Depending if they want to come ride for the brummies that’s another question.. 1) Sam Masters. 9.88 2) paco 5.52 3) Ryan Douglas 7.74 4) Tero Aarnio 6.94 5) Danny king or martin smolinski 6) joe Thompson 7) jack thomas That the team I look to build Hum, well 4 of them riders are fixed up, and if they did field a team of that status they would need to average 1500 per home meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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