Birmingham Brummies 2020

[Col]

9 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

My appetite for the new season has been suppressed by this team switch!

I want a season ticket refund.

[kitten2502]

44 minutes ago, Col said:

I want a season ticket refund.

Are you seriously saying you bought a season ticket on the back of one signing?!!!!!!!

 

[Sidney the robin]

14 hours ago, stevebrum said:

I’ve been hearing this about him for years including his various spells in the top flight. Always appears to be on a bargain low average.

The reality is that it isn’t a bargain at all as he has been hugely overrated for a huge chunk of his career.

At championship level you would expect his average to be much higher but the truth is because of his general lack of interest in riding in the UK I’d say that is mostly his level these days.

 

I never  saw this as a bargain signing at all,  a huge underachiever who does not come cheap Brum will be better off in the longterm.

[Bagpuss]

Seems like a bit of a Jonasson free for all on here, not his fault he’s been mucked about and I think he’d have been a decent signing without setting the world alight. His exclusion certainly weakens Brum.

[HGould]

8 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Seems like a bit of a Jonasson free for all on here, not his fault he’s been mucked about and I think he’d have been a decent signing without setting the world alight. His exclusion certainly weakens Brum.

Agree. Swedish Fixtures moved, that's his homeland and main income stream, no brainer.

Unfortunate for us and happened at a time with very little options available, especially when we don't have access to a work permit.

I remember seeing Grobhauer at Somerset, he looked OK and he seems to have become homesick and left at a time when he was starting to show some form.

Lets get behind the lad, it is still a very solid 1-7.

 

[Sidney the robin]

3 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Seems like a bit of a Jonasson free for all on here, not his fault he’s been mucked about and I think he’d have been a decent signing without setting the world alight. His exclusion certainly weakens Brum.

I saw him ride for King's Lynn at Swindon a few years ago way overweight and he was woeful.Even  at Champs level for me never good anough now to be a reliable third heat leader.

[GiveusaB]

Having reflected over-night....I think that VG will have more desire to prove that he's capable, as opposed to a 'has-been' ?

Obviously a massive skill difference, but us Brummies love a trier and I hope VG gives us his all, at the very least!?

Did he quit mid-season last year, or was he pushed? that will tell us a lot about the man?

[GiveusaB]

Just read last seasons report about VG leaving Somerset?

May states that VG felt that he wasn't up to the job?

What is the difference this season, especially having not rode in England since last July?

Hmmmmmmmmm???

[teaboy279]

When I looked at the riders I could potentially be announcing on parade this season THJ was easily in the top 5 that excited me. Big blow for Brummies fans and management and indeed the wider speedway family imo.

[Pinny]

I’m with Steve brum on this one, I was once a fan of Jonasson but he’s taken the piss one too many times now. 
 

Farce of a scenario and an awful replacement. 

[Col]

22 hours ago, HGould said:

Lets get behind the lad, it is still a very solid 1-7.

I totally disagree. Without the THJ potential X factor, Brummies now look the weakest team.in.the league except for possibly Newcastle.

Two heat leaders in CH & JG who often miss the gate. Probably the weakest third heat leader in the league. AM & JS are returning from injury

[GiveusaB]

 

I think VG will be similar to Paco? he'll be ok at home once he gets dialled in......however, I can't see many points being picked up away from home ?

I thought there'd be better options out there ? Obviously not!

Morris has been around long enough and he was bang on the money just before his injury, so I'd expect him to make a claim for the 3rd heat leader position?

[GiveusaB]

3 hours ago, Pinny said:

I’m with Steve brum on this one, I was once a fan of Jonasson but he’s taken the piss one too many times now. 
 

Farce of a scenario and an awful replacement. 

It's not Jonasson's fault?

But I agree, farce/awful replacement!!

[HGould]

11 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

It's not Jonasson's fault?

But I agree, farce/awful replacement!!

So who from a very small available list would you have signed???

[Bagpuss]

21 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

I saw him ride for King's Lynn at Swindon a few years ago way overweight and he was woeful.Even  at Champs level for me never good anough now to be a reliable third heat leader.

I remember that meeting, 2017, think it was on telly, and pretty sure he won a race. Apart from one meeting when he scored paid 14 he seemed ill prepared during that spell with Lynn. 

Listen, nobody expected him to be a world beater but having signed a while ago and starting the season with everyone else I think he would have been a solid middle order man and certainly better than Grauber. 

[Col]

1 hour ago, HGould said:

So who from a very small available list would you have signed???

With Jonasson's average removed from the original septet there is 7.64 available for team building, where is the sense in signing a rider a rider on 5.38.

Ludvig Lindgren, Victor Palovaara & Dimitri Berge are three riders who do not have a Championship ride and all averaged more than Grobauer in recent years.  I know signing a Dane is not ideal due to race night but there are a host of Danish riders who also fit.

[GiveusaB]

2 hours ago, HGould said:

So who from a very small available list would you have signed???

I havent seen the list of availabilities so I can't answer that question ?

I have a feeling that Thomsen might have been a better signing if he could continue the way he finished last season......he certainly wouldnt be any worse!?

[GiveusaB]

39 minutes ago, Col said:

With Jonasson's average removed from the original septet there is 7.64 available for team building, where is the sense in signing a rider a rider on 5.38.

Ludvig Lindgren, Victor Palovaara & Dimitri Berge are three riders who do not have a Championship ride and all averaged more than Grobauer in recent years.  I know signing a Dane is not ideal due to race night but there are a host of Danish riders who also fit.

Berge would have been great!

[uk_martin]

There seems to be a huge assumption being made that every rider not currently signed up to a British team actually wants to ride in this country. Consider the possibility that they don't. They certainly don't owe us their presence.

And if as an EU national, you are not currently living and working in the EU, what are the hoops that Brexit requires them to jump through to get a job here now? Another factor that makes the UK less than an attractive, possibly.

One day when SCB  / BSPA get their heads out of the sand and see what's going on in the real world, we'll probably have so much coronavirus related disruption to the league, over and above that which the weather creates, that getting a full league programme completed this year will be such a tall order that the inevitable messing around to a riders timetable might make a forward thinking foreign based rider simply decide that it's all not worth the hassle.

[GlasVegas]

53 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

There seems to be a huge assumption being made that every rider not currently signed up to a British team actually wants to ride in this country. Consider the possibility that they don't. They certainly don't owe us their presence.

And if as an EU national, you are not currently living and working in the EU, what are the hoops that Brexit requires them to jump through to get a job here now? Another factor that makes the UK less than an attractive, possibly.

One day when SCB  / BSPA get their heads out of the sand and see what's going on in the real world, we'll probably have so much coronavirus related disruption to the league, over and above that which the weather creates, that getting a full league programme completed this year will be such a tall order that the inevitable messing around to a riders timetable might make a forward thinking foreign based rider simply decide that it's all not worth the hassle.

In fairness to the BSPA (and all other governing bodies of sports & non-sports) we are now in unchartered territory, it's unlikely (certainly in speedway, but in many other areas too) that any dedicated contingency planning exist for the potential disruption which now seems inevitable. Bodies / management teams / riders / supporters are all now pawns in something much, much bigger than 'merely' getting on with normal life as we know it. Personally, I can't see how British speedway can survive (and thrive) as out of step with all available guidance and decisions now being published by the hour. Speedway cannot avoid being impacted.