sommelier Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: Johnno? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Its not Kings Lynn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 hours ago, tellboy said: Blimey,he's nearly 50 isn't he. Yep, he's 50 in October. Sullivan is 46 tomorrow. Crump is the youngster at 45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mimmo said: Yep, he's 50 in October. Sullivan is 46 tomorrow. Crump is the youngster at 45. British speedway youth policy in full swing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, M.D said: British speedway youth policy in full swing. But just look at the knowledge the youngsters could gain from people like Crump and Johnston.One outstanding class act and a very decent rider from their era who will no doubt pass on their knowledge to our youngsters.That in itself could prove invaluable to our youngsters if they want to further their career.Listen and learn from people that have been there and done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I think we are going to get more and more of this in light of COVID and Poland.....clubs are going to prefer UK based riders who will prioritise our domestic racing and not spend money flying European riders in and out. Rules out Brady Kurtz then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, tellboy said: But just look at the knowledge the youngsters could gain from people like Crump and Johnston.One outstanding class act and a very decent rider from their era who will no doubt pass on their knowledge to our youngsters.That in itself could prove invaluable to our youngsters if they want to further their career.Listen and learn from people that have been there and done it. I jest of course.. Many ex UK riders do this behind the scenes for our youth and in my opinion youth wise, we are starting to move forward. We are starting to show the signs of this, its a long term programme that was implemented a few years back that is starting to show a few good prospects and in the future, a few more I hope.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Johnno? He announced on social media many months ago that he was making a full time comeback. Didn’t he ride in a couple of meetings in Australia not too long ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) I think we may see quite a few ex riders coming out of retirement now , leagues that weak the likes of Crump and Sullivan would still average 7+. Edited January 20, 2021 by Pinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Personally I’d have thought giving young British riders a chance would be far better for the longer term future of British speedway than giving has beens a team spot . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Haza said: Personally I’d have thought giving young British riders a chance would be far better for the longer term future of British speedway than giving has beens a team spot . Who's to say young British riders aren't going to be a chance also? So Bridger has been retired for 4 years and had a few problems in the past(who doesn't) but to class him as a has been is out of order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, tellboy said: Who's to say young British riders aren't going to be a chance also? So Bridger has been retired for 4 years and had a few problems in the past(who doesn't) but to class him as a has been is out of order. Hardly out of order, he was well beyond his sell by date before he retired so a has been is probably a fair comment. He was without doubt a very talented rider but way too reliant on sponsorship. At the end of the day he was self employed - same as me. If i turn up to work with inappropriate tools I lose work so I dont see how speedway is any different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Pinny said: Hardly out of order, he was well beyond his sell by date before he retired so a has been is probably a fair comment. He was without doubt a very talented rider but way too reliant on sponsorship. At the end of the day he was self employed - same as me. If i turn up to work with inappropriate tools I lose work so I dont see how speedway is any different. So a has been could be referred to probably half of the leagues riders according to your interpretation. Think you will find most riders are reliant on sponsorship. Edited January 20, 2021 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, tellboy said: Who's to say young British riders aren't going to be a chance also? So Bridger has been retired for 4 years and had a few problems in the past(who doesn't) but to class him as a has been is out of order. Really ? 4 years out of the sport is a massive amount of time he WAS a rider with great talent I’m not doubting that but I stick with what I said to give a team spot to him over a young British rider is absolute madness in my opinion . we’ve a massive opportunity to showcase British talent let’s do it and do it now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Haza said: Really ? 4 years out of the sport is a massive amount of time he WAS a rider with great talent I’m not doubting that but I stick with what I said to give a team spot to him over a young British rider is absolute madness in my opinion . we’ve a massive opportunity to showcase British talent let’s do it and do it now . First of all i would suspect he would be replacing a German.Secondly i can see young British talent being given an opportunity this season.You simply cannot accommodate every young British rider though or else you get a league on par with the NL. I take it if the British youngsters are given their chance then you may make a comeback yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, Haza said: Really ? 4 years out of the sport is a massive amount of time he WAS a rider with great talent I’m not doubting that but I stick with what I said to give a team spot to him over a young British rider is absolute madness in my opinion . we’ve a massive opportunity to showcase British talent let’s do it and do it now . I would imagine there will be spots for riders like Bridger and youngsters alongside him, if anything this whole situation is going to see riders like Hartel and other modestly talented European riders not riding over here which isn’t a bad thing IMO. I don’t think we should be discouraging or turning away any British riders who are good enough and want to ride in our leagues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, tellboy said: First of all i would suspect he would be replacing a German.Secondly i can see young British talent being given an opportunity this season.You simply cannot accommodate every young British rider though or else you get a league on par with the NL. I take it if the British youngsters are given their chance then you may make a comeback yourself Can anyone of us say we will be attending meetings at this point in time ? who even knows when the season will start yes they say May but that’s by no means certain- in my case circumstances have changed and I have much more time on my hands so definitely more likely to attend meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Haza said: Can anyone of us say we will be attending meetings at this point in time ? who even knows when the season will start yes they say May but that’s by no means certain- in my case circumstances have changed and I have much more time on my hands so definitely more likely to attend meetings. I'm clinging to the hope the vaccine will be well rolled out by then and we can nearly get back to normal by May.Afterall they are giving the vaccine to the speedway fans first,the over 80's now the over 70's soon be the over 60's and that's just about the fan base covered. Any old/new fan is good news to have at the speedway,so hope you do make it back 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, tellboy said: I'm clinging to the hope the vaccine will be well rolled out by then and we can nearly get back to normal by May.Afterall they are giving the vaccine to the speedway fans first,the over 80's now the over 70's soon be the over 60's and that's just about the fan base covered. Any old/new fan is good news to have at the speedway,so hope you do make it back The thing that concerns me about the vaccine as of yet (and fingers crossed this will change ) those who’s already had the vaccine can’t go back to normal life they’ve not even been told you don’t need a face mask they don’t no yet if those who’s been vaccinated can still pass the virus on - unless that changes it’s not going to get any sports fans back into any stadiums anytime soon sadly . Don’t get me wrong fantastic we’ve a vaccine but so many uncertainties surrounded it yet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Haza said: The thing that concerns me about the vaccine as of yet (and fingers crossed this will change ) those who’s already had the vaccine can’t go back to normal life they’ve not even been told you don’t need a face mask they don’t no yet if those who’s been vaccinated can still pass the virus on - unless that changes it’s not going to get any sports fans back into any stadiums anytime soon sadly . Don’t get me wrong fantastic we’ve a vaccine but so many uncertainties surrounded it yet . Maybe i am being optimistic.I just feel in over 3 months a lot can change for the better.Over half the population should be vaccinated so that should really leave only the fittest.We will be out of Winter by then.Plus the Government will want the people to believe the vaccine has worked so some sort of normality will be resumed.Having said that i just don't believe half of what the Government are saying at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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