Call me wolfie Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Whilst i admire fans devotion to a chosen side it still baffles me. I likewise am a supporter of the sport rather than any specific team. It's not baffling at all, it's completely natural to develop an affinity with the team you pay to watch every week. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 I have followed the Stars the whole length and breath of this country. I cant think of a track I haven't visited during the countless years I've supported this wonderful sport. Too right, once I was the most ardent of Stars fans and would argue the point to the end, but as time goes bye you see life differently. Going to speedway matches was once the be all of everything, it dictated your moods, it define the whole week. It was the catalyst of your whole being. How sad was I , that I allowed it to govern my life for so long. My love for fast motor sport is as evident as ever, but now realise it has to be put into prospective. Now I see the sport as it really is and understand the lack of importance is a reflection of how the world see it. Gone are the days when it challenged Football in relation to supporting numbers, Fans stay at home now, it is fast disappearing because costs haven't been controlled. Probably the bikes are now faster, the heats are quicker, and the riders are better, but the race meetings are not like they use to be. The atmosphere has gone, the excitement is missing the crowds have all but gone . So if it is possible to go to a variety of venues to get my dose of yesteryear, then believe me I will go whether the Stars are riding there or not..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, g13webb said: I have followed the Stars the whole length and breath of this country. I cant think of a track I haven't visited during the countless years I've supported this wonderful sport. Too right, once I was the most ardent of Stars fans and would argue the point to the end, but as time goes bye you see life differently. Going to speedway matches was once the be all of everything, it dictated your moods, it define the whole week. It was the catalyst of your whole being. How sad was I , that I allowed it to govern my life for so long. My love for fast motor sport is as evident as ever, but now realise it has to be put into prospective. Now I see the sport as it really is and understand the lack of importance is a reflection of how the world see it. Gone are the days when it challenged Football in relation to supporting numbers, Fans stay at home now, it is fast disappearing because costs haven't been controlled. Probably the bikes are now faster, the heats are quicker, and the riders are better, but the race meetings are not like they use to be. The atmosphere has gone, the excitement is missing the crowds have all but gone . So if it is possible to go to a variety of venues to get my dose of yesteryear, then believe me I will go whether the Stars are riding there or not..... Was it ever really a 100% Sport ? I always saw it as a form of entertainment that was self governing and open to various forms of corruption, and varied types of you scratch my back, i will scratch yours. Carphole stadiums that took the pee out of the fans and no real investment in the future. Just hungry promotions who the fans fed to the extreme. Now we end up with a British League that is on the bones of its ass. You reap what you sew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, g13webb said: How sad was I , that I allowed it to govern my life for so long. Echoed here! I too rode a motorbike all over the UK for many years to watch speedway. Based in Northmapton I was a regualr at Lynn, Coventry, Sheffield, White City etc 10 hours ago, g13webb said: Probably the bikes are now faster, the heats are quicker, and the riders are better, but the race meetings are not like they use to be. The atmosphere has gone, the excitement is missing the crowds have all but gone . No lure now for me. Three KL matches last season. Wish I could get over to Peterborough from time to time, but not pulled powerfully there either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 2:59 PM, 1984Star said: Effort and time I don’t see it like that at all, he is building both sides in a similar way ie with three distinct heat leaders and riders who have plenty of history at each club and will be popular with many supporters. Jorgensen and Kerr wouldn't have been in many people’s teams due to their scoring but they are popular, they are club men. Many people who go every week will be happy they are included, same goes for Hans, Niels, Ulrich and to a lesser extent MPT at P’boro. Buster knows people will keep coming back if his teams win at home and that what he is going for I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Buster knows people will keep coming back if his teams win at home and that what he is going for I believe. He might know that some people come back regularly if his teams win at home but he does not seem to accept that some others won't come back regularly, if it is invariably boring, processioanl racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: He might know that some people come back regularly if his teams win at home but he does not seem to accept that some others won't come back regularly, if it is invariably boring, processioanl racing. Less dirt this year apparently so perhaps the penny has dropped. Anyway a winning team will always trump good racing for folk generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: Less dirt this year apparently so perhaps the penny has dropped. If so, better late than never. I used to love going but in recent years, 3 or 4 mins of interest in a meeting, has almost killed off the likelihood of me watching live in the stadium. Wiil give it at least one try this season, just in case you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Sponsors stepping down I see. ED Bales has sent a good luck message to King’s Lynn ahead of the new season – after standing down as main team sponsor.The club will be unveiling their new backers next week after Poultec stepped aside to channel their funds to the Poultec speedway programme enhancing opportunities for young riders within the sport.“The training programme is requiring increased input to run successfully but hopefully it continues to grow and be of great benefit to the sport,” said Bales.“I wish Keith and Cheryl Chapman and the King’s Lynn team every success for the new season and I am sure we will be around to support them in other ways.“We are looking forward to the new season.”Stars co-promoter Keith Chapman said: “It’s always a pleasure to work alongside Ed and Debbie Bales and we can’t thank them enough for their support last season.“They are good friends of us here at King’s Lynn and they know they are more than welcome to come along and see us as our guests at any time.“We have been working hard behind the scenes and we should be in a position to make an announcement next week regarding our 2020 team sponsors.” Edited February 26, 2020 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 How about a Haulage firm from Dunham as the Headline Sponsor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 GB star Cook ready to do 'proper job' with King's Lynn Great Britain international Craig Cook is revving up for his first full season in King's Lynn colours. PUBLISHED: 10:30 27 February 2020 | UPDATED: 10:30 27 February 2020 After finding things tough over the last couple of years, the Whitehaven-born rider now has a plan in place which should mean Stars supporters will see the best of him in 2020. Cook said: "I feel the last two years have been a bit scattered and obviously with doing the Grands Prix in 2018 and then last year was a bit higgledy-piggledy too. We were kind of all over the place not knowing what was going on, which was quite stressful. "I think I can still do a great job at number five. I always feel like I have underachieved so we have put things into place in the off-season where I can get things right and get things organised, getting myself in a position where I am doing my job properly. "Like I say, we have got things in order this year - we knew who we were signing for so everything has been stress-free getting all the bikes ready so we are pretty much ready to go for this season." The Stars will have two former British champions in their ranks again this year and Cook was quick to praise number one Robert Lambert. "I always feel that Robert is always probably going to be the number one," he said. "Obviously he had a bit of an off-season in 2019 and he knows his way around King's Lynn better than anyone. I think that he will get himself back together and back to his form from two years ago." Cook has also welcomed the alterations being made to British tracks and feels they will benefit the sport in the UK. "It is good see that promoters are running the tracks a bit slicker to suit the bikes of today," he said. "I mean, even King's Lynn has been slicker than it ever used to be but it is still grippy. "The bikes are designed to be so much more aggressive and get so much more traction which can make it difficult racing. "There's going to be some little changes to the track at Lynn this year and I think once we get dialled in around there you'll see how good the racing can be. I think once we get settled, it will be a massive benefit to us at home and probably even more so, on the road." From the EDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/23/2020 at 9:44 AM, Bagpuss said: . Buster knows people will keep coming back if his teams win at home and that what he is going for I believe. I'm not so sure on that, Personally, I know of at least a dozen Lynn supporters, who have stopped going in the past 2 years. So I imagine there are many more who can say something similar. Comparing them facts with figures, that must equate to £2 grand a season at least on missed revenue. What the fans really want is a realistic chance of success. Assembling a stronger team at our closest rivals is probably the biggest turnoff he could do..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, g13webb said: I'm not so sure on that, Personally, I know of at least a dozen Lynn supporters, who have stopped going in the past 2 years. So I imagine there are many more who can say something similar. Comparing them facts with figures, that must equate to £2 grand a season at least on missed revenue. What the fans really want is a realistic chance of success. Assembling a stronger team at our closest rivals is probably the biggest turnoff he could do..... There must be some people who have stopped going due to the poor entertainment in recent seasons and to be honest I wouldn’t really blame them but unless I’m misunderstanding you I don’t think anybody would have stopped going in 2018 because there wasn’t a realistic chance of success, we would have won the title that year but for injuries. The bottom line is that the vast majority of people will keep returning if they see their team win. And I genuinely don’t think they are bothered what other teams get up to or look like on paper if that’s the case. What I will say is that the buzz around a season disappears if the Play Offs aren’t reached or even look like being achieved and can lead to fewer through the gate, or fewer occasional attendees, regardless of winning at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 What’s Buster charging for standard admission this season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 hours ago, g13webb said: What the fans really want is a realistic chance of success What this fan really wants to see is that in a majority of races the positions will stand a very good chance of changing after 1/2 lap. And that riders believe that that is possible and make a real effort to do so, rather than accept after that first 1/2 lap that the result is set in stone. And settle for a high speed verion of line dancing. Bring back racing and the belief that having a serious go is worth it. Not least to entertain the remaining supporters! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 7:49 AM, waytogo28 said: What this fan really wants to see is that in a majority of races the positions will stand a very good chance of changing after 1/2 lap. And that riders believe that that is possible and make a real effort to do so, rather than accept after that first 1/2 lap that the result is set in stone. And settle for a high speed verion of line dancing. Bring back racing and the belief that having a serious go is worth it. Not least to entertain the remaining supporters! Sounds like this fan wants NL racing back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 7:49 AM, waytogo28 said: What this fan really wants to see is that in a majority of races the positions will stand a very good chance of changing after 1/2 lap. And that riders believe that that is possible and make a real effort to do so, rather than accept after that first 1/2 lap that the result is set in stone. And settle for a high speed verion of line dancing. Bring back racing and the belief that having a serious go is worth it. Not least to entertain the remaining supporters! Not the case at Swindon, there is plenty of overtaking throughout the whole race in the PL meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: Sounds like this fan wants NL racing back Spot on! It was far better, less predictable racing rather than a first and second bend melee and - well, that's it! All over bar dodging stones coming your way from the riders following each other round and hoping to gate better next time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Slicker track should mean much better racing if that international was anything to go by. That was a thoroughly entertaining meeting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 hours ago, A ORLOV said: Not the case at Swindon, there is plenty of overtaking throughout the whole race in the PL meetings. Exactly. The better the track prep the better the quality of racing, whether that’s NL, CL or PL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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