King's Lynn Stars 2020

[Clive Ward]

The 1-7 isn’t the team I would have picked but at the end of the day surely it’s not just about wether the averages fit but if the finances fit as well. 
I’m not having a go at what other supporters think the team should have been but no one knows what the club has had to pay to secure the services of both Robert and Cookie and surely there has to be a limit as to what the club can pay out in wages. 
Personally if it was a choice of spending silly money and winning the league or have what I call a reasonable team and be still have a team to support every week I would chose reasonably good team every time.

Having said it’s not the team I would have picked I do believe that every rider can easily up their 2019 average and I’ll be there every week supporting the team 100%

[acef]

4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Stars will need Lambert to average 9+ and Cook 8+ to even stand a chance for top 4.

I disagree about the weakest team so far though, with completed teams I'd say Belle Vue are. Kildermand won't offer them anything and Kurtz as a No1? No thanks

Most certainly underwhelming apart from Lambert and Cook

Belle Vue the weakest?

What have you been smoking?

[acef]

4 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Which two teams are they out of interest? 

Swindon and Belle Vue, who are the teams to beat imo.

[acef]

I think the thing with this Lynn team is that we already know what will happen. Proctor was absolutely woeful last season, Jorgensen and Kerr were useless on the road. 

That middle order is piss easy to get at and they don't have a strong enough top 3 to bail it. With the introduction of the German, questions can now also be asked about the quality they have at reserve.

There is a reason that the away form for KL was so poor last season, and essentially those riders have been re-recruited. Indeed, the one that should have stayed has gone!

Quite honestly I think it's a diabolical team and depending on the completion of the Peterborough team I fully expect the stars to be propping up the division.

Edited January 10, 2020 by acef

[Bagpuss]

25 minutes ago, acef said:

Swindon and Belle Vue, who are the teams to beat imo.

I’d agree they are the teams to beat but it wouldn’t surprise me if we went through the card at home, the side is stacked with Lynn specialists. 

The hope of course is that the middle order rides like they did in 2018 and not 2019. There is a lot of reliance on Proctor to get back to being a 6+ rider.

[KLFAN]

7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I’d agree they are the teams to beat but it wouldn’t surprise me if we went through the card at home, the side is stacked with Lynn specialists. 

The hope of course is that the middle order rides like they did in 2018 and not 2019. There is a lot of reliance on Proctor to get back to being a 6+ rider.

What we have to remember is, it is the team you finish the league with rather than the one you start with (Swindon 2019). However the key issue here is that changes are made soon enough to rectify any deficiencies.

[Arch Stanton]

Wouldn’t be overly concerned by people’s predictions on here, they’re always pretty woeful tbf. Rewind 12 months ago and Ipswich were being slaughtered for having “the worst top flight team ever”. 
 

Seems some never learn 

[foreverblue]

3 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Wouldn’t be overly concerned by people’s predictions on here, they’re always pretty woeful tbf. Rewind 12 months ago and Ipswich were being slaughtered for having “the worst top flight team ever”. 
 

Seems some never learn 

Don't think anybody said they had the worst ever. this years team looks competitive and should easily make the play offs whereas Kings Lynn look like they may struggle especially away.

[Bald Bloke]

39 minutes ago, acef said:

I think the thing with this Lynn team is that we already know what will happen. Proctor was absolutely woeful last season, Jorgensen and Kerr were useless on the road. 

That middle order is piss easy to get at and they don't have a strong enough top 3 to bail it. With the introduction of the German, questions can now also be asked about the quality they have at reserve.

There is a reason that the away form for KL was so poor last season, and essentially those riders have been re-recruited. Indeed, the one that should have stayed has gone!

Quite honestly I think it's a diabolical team and depending on the completion of the Peterborough team I fully expect the stars to be propping up the division.

Agree with most of it. I wouldn't call diabolical though, but the lack of ambition is there for all to see.

[Arch Stanton]

8 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Don't think anybody said they had the worst ever. this years team looks competitive and should easily make the play offs whereas Kings Lynn look like they may struggle especially away.

Col did, and a fair few others were also pretty scathing. TBF I wasn’t impressed pre season either and I also thought we’d have a struggle to avoid the wooden spoon. My point is most people’s predictions on here are usually way off, and I include myself in that! It’s all a bit of fun. Lynn do have the benefit of having a real home comforts track. All clubs have a home advantage for sure, but Lynn is always a difficult place to get a result from despite the team strengths. As Bagpuss says, wouldn’t surprise me to see them unbeaten all season there. 

Edited January 10, 2020 by Arch Stanton

[Bagpuss]

8 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Agree with most of it. I wouldn't call diabolical though, but the lack of ambition is there for all to see.

Or maybe a lack of funds through Buster financing two clubs? 

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

Looks like the wooden spoon is going to make the short trip from Peterborough to King's Lynn.

Why MPT was let go is a mystery. Should have kept him.

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Col did, and a fair few others were also pretty scathing. TBF I wasn’t impressed pre season either and I also thought we’d have a struggle to avoid the wooden spoon. My point is most people’s predictions on here are usually way off, and I include myself in that! It’s all a bit of fun. Lynn do have the benefit of having a real home comforts track. All clubs have a home advantage for sure, but Lynn is always a difficult place to get a result from despite the team strengths. As Bagpuss says, wouldn’t surprise me to see them unbeaten all season there. 

Ok fair enough but in fairness Ipswich didn't look a great team but you also have a lot of home advantage and it just showed what team spirit can do. 

[g13webb]

Even though we had to wait these silly time schedules, we do at last know the full 1-7.    Cant say I'm over impressed with the declaration,  even though we could have forethought most of the team.   Personally terribly disappointed there will be no MPT,   Had I been in charge he would had a place at the expense of any in the bottom 4.    I feel TJ;  TP and LK have all had enough  time to fulfil their potential, and the Stars have signed them again  because of who they are and not on any improvement  they might give.  

I believe we have two chances of making it to them PO's.    1,  Our top 3 perform to the standard expected of them.  Considering the substandard quality of this league top riders like Lambert and Cook should be capable of averaging double figures without too many problems.   Riss should be aware of all the tracks by now and should be averaging 8 at least.    If these top riders can perform and install some added belief, then possibly the others can get on the bandwagon.   2nd  chance we may have is if this Hartel has improves as much as been observed.    Being of German nationality  one would expect he will favour the bigger track.   Close friends with both Lambert and Riss, he might surprise a few this second time round.  

Though never expecting miracles,     but I feel we do have a little wisp of hope....   

[tellboy]

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Col did, and a fair few others were also pretty scathing. TBF I wasn’t impressed pre season either and I also thought we’d have a struggle to avoid the wooden spoon. My point is most people’s predictions on here are usually way off, and I include myself in that! It’s all a bit of fun. Lynn do have the benefit of having a real home comforts track. All clubs have a home advantage for sure, but Lynn is always a difficult place to get a result from despite the team strengths. As Bagpuss says, wouldn’t surprise me to see them unbeaten all season there. 

Never use to be.Back in the day so to speak everyone use to like coming to Lynn because there was always a chance of getting an away win.Only when it became really grippy did we get plenty of advantage as away riders couldn't cope and basically bottled it.By all accounts they are making it less grippy next season.Will this go against our home advantage?

[tellboy]

38 minutes ago, g13webb said:

Even though we had to wait these silly time schedules, we do at last know the full 1-7.    Cant say I'm over impressed with the declaration,  even though we could have forethought most of the team.   Personally terribly disappointed there will be no MPT,   Had I been in charge he would had a place at the expense of any in the bottom 4.    I feel TJ;  TP and LK have all had enough  time to fulfil their potential, and the Stars have signed them again  because of who they are and not on any improvement  they might give.  

I believe we have two chances of making it to them PO's.    1,  Our top 3 perform to the standard expected of them.  Considering the substandard quality of this league top riders like Lambert and Cook should be capable of averaging double figures without too many problems.   Riss should be aware of all the tracks by now and should be averaging 8 at least.    If these top riders can perform and install some added belief, then possibly the others can get on the bandwagon.   2nd  chance we may have is if this Hartel has improves as much as been observed.    Being of German nationality  one would expect he will favour the bigger track.   Close friends with both Lambert and Riss, he might surprise a few this second time round.  

Though never expecting miracles,     but I feel we do have a little wisp of hope....   

Don't agree with the statement concerning Lambert and Cook that they should average double figures without too many problems.There has been many better and experienced riders in this weaker league that haven't done that including Doyle,Iversen,Lindgren to name a few.When was the last rider to average 10pts?I am not picking just saying it is very hard to average double figures.

I hope your right though,if those 2 average 10 or more Lynn will easily make the play-offs and hopefully win the league for the first time.

Edited January 10, 2020 by tellboy

[Bagpuss]

55 minutes ago, g13webb said:

Even though we had to wait these silly time schedules, we do at last know the full 1-7.    Cant say I'm over impressed with the declaration,  even though we could have forethought most of the team.   Personally terribly disappointed there will be no MPT,   Had I been in charge he would had a place at the expense of any in the bottom 4.    I feel TJ;  TP and LK have all had enough  time to fulfil their potential, and the Stars have signed them again  because of who they are and not on any improvement  they might give.  

I believe we have two chances of making it to them PO's.    1,  Our top 3 perform to the standard expected of them.  Considering the substandard quality of this league top riders like Lambert and Cook should be capable of averaging double figures without too many problems.   Riss should be aware of all the tracks by now and should be averaging 8 at least.    If these top riders can perform and install some added belief, then possibly the others can get on the bandwagon.   2nd  chance we may have is if this Hartel has improves as much as been observed.    Being of German nationality  one would expect he will favour the bigger track.   Close friends with both Lambert and Riss, he might surprise a few this second time round.  

Though never expecting miracles,     but I feel we do have a little wisp of hope....   

Agree with the majority of this, however I think your expectations of the top three are a title high.....if Cook & Lambert can both average 9 and Riss 7-7.5 they will all have had good seasons. Also I’d argue that the improvement he might give is the only reason Proctor has been signed again. 

[False dawn]

3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

My point is most people’s predictions on here are usually way off, and I include myself in that! It’s all a bit of fun.

And what else are we going to do between October and March? 

[Bagpuss]

It’s very much a bit of fun. The important thing is to not take umbrage when somebody thinks your team will be sh ite 

[False dawn]

32 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

It’s very much a bit of fun. The important thing is to not take umbrage when somebody thinks your team will be sh ite 

Wouldn't it be a bit of fun if we could formalise this prediction process. For example, we all predict our 1 to 7 for the League. Then come October we "measure" who's prediction is the best.
Sounds like a job for Racers-and-Royals to me!