kelvinht Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Yep. Your are right. 2.5 it is But I like the idea of 5% reduction! Would give British riders even better chance of team places. Always felt 2.5% was a bit low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 hours ago, g13webb said: If you look hard enough they'll always be an answer. I look at the other teams and they seem to find an option without having to gamble. In our league format, the reserves are second only to the heat headers in the terms of importance. We need to be confident that our riders are of known quality and are capable of scoring points against similar positions in the other teams. In Kvech we have neither of those. I liked the look of Kvech when I see him in the u21s. He finished quite high against some good opposition too. I thought people wanted to see someone different. I know that he would give his all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriors Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 16 hours ago, g13webb said: If you look hard enough they'll always be an answer. I look at the other teams and they seem to find an option without having to gamble. In our league format, the reserves are second only to the heat headers in the terms of importance. We need to be confident that our riders are of known quality and are capable of scoring points against similar positions in the other teams. In Kvech we have neither of those. Championship team, premiership prices. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Warriors said: Championship team, premiership prices. To be fair.... You could say the same thing about most teams.. A great many of the riders in the Premiership will be Championship riders also.. (Many as heat leaders in both Leagues for their respective teams).. With Doyle looking like he will be the only 'top 15' in the world rider to compete over here.. I do think the Premiership have to keep prices 'high' in the hope it gives the message of being clearly the top league.. The reality is that in many ways, the level of the reserves in both leagues make the ultimate biggest impact to the standard differential.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 19 hours ago, mikebv said: I do think the Premiership have to keep prices 'high' in the hope it gives the message of being clearly the top league.. I chose which meetings that seemed to heighten and rouse my interest and went to three of them last season. Higher prices for a lesser product means I will do the same again ( as very likely will others ) as the VFM slides yet again. Two or three real races for your money is poor value by my way of thinking. Unless the quality of racing inproves I fear I will soon not be stepping into Saddlebow Road again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 A lot of hopes are being pinned on the promise of a slicker surface, I really hope they stick to their word on that. Would love to see Buster widen the track too but would have thought that’s unlikely. Most importantly let’s hope there is no price rise for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: I chose which meetings that seemed to heighten and rouse my interest and went to three of them last season. Higher prices for a lesser product means I will do the same again ( as very likely will others ) as the VFM slides yet again. Two or three real races for your money is poor value by my way of thinking. Unless the quality of racing inproves I fear I will soon not be stepping into Saddlebow Road again. And that's one of the key challenges the sport faces.. ie Does the competitions standing itself, and the riders on show, encourage fans to go? Or.. Is it the quality and closeness of racing, regardless of who is doing it, that gets them there? The NSS has terrific racing pretty much every week, with the majority of races having at least one pass through the field and the vast majority of races having the final positions still in doubt to the last bend.. And that can be said for the Colts as well as the Aces.. However, one is £10 in total for me and my 16 year old lad, and the other is £26.. £16 difference to actually see very little difference in racing quality from what I have seen over the past few years.. Therefore, I attend the Colts much, much more as I can get my 'Speedway fix' much cheaper, and as I have zero belief that winning a Team Speedway title in the UK has any credibility, then it more than ticks the boxes I want from the sport.. However, the Aces get probably double the crowds of the Colts which suggests the riders on view are a greater pull for many.. For me, the sport, in the UK, has to decide if it's actually a truly bona fide sport, with winning titles having some real kudos through having credible rules and teams.. Or.. It becomes sports entertainment, whereby the racing itself is the main draw... The fans seem to want both which, in fairness to the Promoters and their various circuits, given the wide ranging challenges they face, probably isn't anywhere near attainable.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Another rider to be announced later this week according to the Stars twitter. Probably be Cookie I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Another rider to be announced later this week according to the Stars twitter. Probably be Cookie I think. Probably Friday then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Starboy118 said: Probably Friday then. Who’s Friday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, mrss said: Who’s Friday? Won the Deserted Island best pairs with Robinson Crusoe a few years ago ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Peter Schroek now saying we need to give more British youngsters a chance. I read that as we'll have a youngster at no. 7, not necessarily a very experienced one, which maybe means not Cookie....or we will be understrength before we even start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 I think Dale Allitt has said that the team will be slightly over half a point under the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, kelvinht said: Peter Schroek now saying we need to give more British youngsters a chance. I read that as we'll have a youngster at no. 7, not necessarily a very experienced one, which maybe means not Cookie....or we will be understrength before we even start Got to be Rambo lambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, Racin Jason 72 said: Got to be Rambo lambo He said youngster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, kelvinht said: Peter Schroek now saying we need to give more British youngsters a chance. I read that as we'll have a youngster at no. 7, not necessarily a very experienced one, which maybe means not Cookie....or we will be understrength before we even start At the end of last season, he also said it was no good having riders who fly at the AFA and can't score away. What do they do, sign them again for 2020 and add Ty Proctor . The mind boggles, well mine does anyway Edited January 2, 2020 by Bald Bloke 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 KL just tweeted their next signing will be announced at 6am tomorrow, the rider in question was playing “darts”. I know NKI is a massive darts fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 8:14 AM, mikebv said: And that's one of the key challenges the sport faces.. ie Does the competitions standing itself, and the riders on show, encourage fans to go? Or.. Is it the quality and closeness of racing, regardless of who is doing it, that gets them there? The NSS has terrific racing pretty much every week, with the majority of races having at least one pass through the field and the vast majority of races having the final positions still in doubt to the last bend.. And that can be said for the Colts as well as the Aces.. However, one is £10 in total for me and my 16 year old lad, and the other is £26.. £16 difference to actually see very little difference in racing quality from what I have seen over the past few years.. Therefore, I attend the Colts much, much more as I can get my 'Speedway fix' much cheaper, and as I have zero belief that winning a Team Speedway title in the UK has any credibility, then it more than ticks the boxes I want from the sport.. However, the Aces get probably double the crowds of the Colts which suggests the riders on view are a greater pull for many.. For me, the sport, in the UK, has to decide if it's actually a truly bona fide sport, with winning titles having some real kudos through having credible rules and teams.. Or.. It becomes sports entertainment, whereby the racing itself is the main draw... The fans seem to want both which, in fairness to the Promoters and their various circuits, given the wide ranging challenges they face, probably isn't anywhere near attainable.... The NNS has really surprised me. Me, thinking the track was equal to anywhere in the world and the racing was from the top draw, I automatically assumed the place would be packed every meeting. I expected, if the product was right the crowds would come just like in them olden day. Situated in the 3rd biggest city in the land with a copulation to die for, this place was tailor made to reinvent this sport in this modern era. But unfortunate it hasn't happened. My question now is: if somewhere like NNS cant attract the masses, what chance has other places got. I'm sorry for being pessimistic but I must agree with the promoters of this sport, and therefore understand , there's little point in spending good money chasing after bad... The only people that continue supporting the sport now are those fans from years back . Soon there wont be any of us left.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: KL just tweeted their next signing will be announced at 6am tomorrow, the rider in question was playing “darts”. I know NKI is a massive darts fan. Looks very much like Cook to me. As for the Shroeck comments, from what I’ve seen they are without context so probably don’t even relate to the seventh rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Mmmmm, was playing darts,,,, was darts world final last night,,, winner Peter Wright,,, was Wright the clue,,, being James Wright at reserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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