cuckootoyou Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ouch said: Anders Rowe 5.49 Didn't Anders refuse the rising star option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, cuckootoyou said: Didn't Anders refuse the rising star option? http://www.sheffield-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.2992 7th paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ouch said: Anders Rowe 5.49 He's not a rising star is he, he's number 6 for Ipswich ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Trees said: He's not a rising star is he, he's number 6 for Ipswich ..... Please see my previous post. Are you saying he shouldn’t have replaced Bates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Trees said: He's not a rising star is he, he's number 6 for Ipswich ..... http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/files/downloads/rising_stars_15.07.21.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/files/downloads/rising_stars_15.07.21.pdf If he is a rising star why does his average have the +5% that is used when booking a guest at home? The rules say rising stars can only be replaced by another rising star so this calculation isn’t applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, ouch said: If he is a rising star why does his average have the +5% that is used when booking a guest at home? The rules say rising stars can only be replaced by another rising star so this calculation isn’t applicable. I am sure that Andres Rowe is on the rising star list , but Ipswich put him into the main body of the team so didn’t use him as their rising star option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, mrss said: I am sure that Andres Rowe is on the rising star list , but Ipswich put him into the main body of the team so didn’t use him as their rising star option. Does that mean at that point he ceased to be a rising star and was just treated as a regular 1-6 team member ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, ouch said: If he is a rising star why does his average have the +5% that is used when booking a guest at home? The rules say rising stars can only be replaced by another rising star so this calculation isn’t applicable. It is. If Rowe is missing and a guest is brought in to replace him, he is replaced according to his average and the +5% applies at home. 2 minutes ago, mrss said: I am sure that Andres Rowe is on the rising star list , but Ipswich put him into the main body of the team so didn’t use him as their rising star option. Correct, and he can guest for another 4* Rising Star regardless of his own average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, ouch said: Does that mean at that point he ceased to be a rising star and was just treated as a regular 1-6 team member ? No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, NeilWatson said: No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 That makes sense now. Anders is both a rising star and a 1-6 team member with and average. Many thanks for clearing it up, I knew you’d know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, NeilWatson said: No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 To be honest that’s how I read things. Rowe IS on the Rising Star list so can guest for another RS? He is declared in main team by Ipswich so can have a true average. Edited July 26, 2021 by stevebrum Amended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, stevebrum said: To be honest that’s how I read things. Rowe IS on the Rising Star list so can guest for another RS? He is declared a RS by Ipswich so can have a true average. He's not Ipswich's RS rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 It's not hard to grasp is it,,, he is on the Rising Star list at the start of the season,, and still on it,,, ipswich don't use him as a rising star,, as only one rising star per team this season in the Prem,,, Kemp is ipswich rising star. So Rowe gets an average, but because he is on the list still,, he can guest for other 4 rising stars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 12 hours ago, tellboy said: So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. Could you answer the above question Neil,or hasn't that scenario been thought of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 13 hours ago, tellboy said: So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. 29 minutes ago, tellboy said: Could you answer the above question Neil,or hasn't that scenario been thought of. I don't believe that is possible, precisely because the RS riders don't have a Green Sheet average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 If another 'Woffy' came along and rode in the main body of the team, but was still an RS (like Anders Rowe), and ran say a 7 point average as he was so good... Could he then guest as a replacement for a 4* rider? Presume so given it appears your average 'doesn't matter' as was shown when Rowe recently guested for Bates.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, mikebv said: If another 'Woffy' came along and rode in the main body of the team, but was still an RS (like Anders Rowe), and ran say a 7 point average as he was so good... Could he then guest as a replacement for a 4* rider? Presume so given it appears your average 'doesn't matter' as was shown when Rowe recently guested for Bates.. Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybishop Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 19 hours ago, ouch said: Which begs the question why the Isle of Wight left the league after going through this democratic process. Odd. Does anyone know why Kemp doesn’t have an average? In this years case there was no democratic process, the rules, changes and new entrants were impossed upon us and we were not guaranteed that it would return to normal in 2022 - ie by way of a democratic vote. This is why we left. Had there been a democratic vote or even a promise to allow a democratic vote for 2022 we would still be in the BSPL. We could not allow ourselves to be dictated to, put on something we struggled to support, at our cost, our risk, our reputation, to develop riders we are not allowed to sign... totally for the benefit of higher leagues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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