GWC Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: The annoying thing is that they’d got Lawson, Wells and Mountain I’m in the first place instead of Proctor, Bridger and Kinsley it would have been a half decent team. And the Wolves result wouldn’t have happened and Cook wouldn’t have been released. Opportunity missed. In the current climate perhaps they couldn’t afford those riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: The annoying thing is that they’d got Lawson, Wells and Mountain I’m in the first place instead of Proctor, Bridger and Kinsley it would have been a half decent team. And the Wolves result wouldn’t have happened and Cook wouldn’t have been released. Opportunity missed. Seems very much like they got one team very much right and one team very much wrong. I would think Buster signed off on both teams even if he wasn’t directly involved in doing the donkey work in putting either side together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, semion said: Seems very much like they got one team very much right and one team very much wrong. I would think Buster signed off on both teams even if he wasn’t directly involved in doing the donkey work in putting either side together. I would of thought that was the case as well. Maybe Buster must need more fans at the Showground than the AFA. He has rent to pay at his 2nd track, but owns Lynn. Hence the starting line ups. Edited June 17, 2021 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 I would think it costs far more to run Speedway at Alwarton than Saddlebow. All income ( including stadium naming rights) at Saddlebow goes to Buster. Income at Alwarton must be much more limited. So would need much bigger gates at P’Boro. Yet strangely Panthers are top of The League whist the Stars are rooted at the bottom. Is one track subsiding the other ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said: I would of thought that was the case as well. Maybe Buster must need more fans at the Showground than the AFA. He has rent to pay at his 2nd track, but owns Lynn. Hence the starting line ups. And fair play to him if that it what he is doing... A sensible business plan for me.. No one will really bother who wins a league of six teams (or let's he honest, any amount of teams), so makes strong sense to keep both clubs financially solvent.. There may end up being more fans at Peteborough than Lynn, but with less to pay out and getting money from concessions, car park etc, it could still be more profitable...? And with Speedway down to the "die hards" (who have proven by still regularly attending that they will accept whatever is provided), then why not run both business's this way? Makes clear sense if that is what he is doing.. Edited June 17, 2021 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriors Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: There's a massive difference imo. Peterborough have 4 rider's that have experienced the top of the game, King's Lynn have none. Regardless of age at Peterborough, there is an absolute chasm of difference in quality at both clubs. King's Lynn's team buiding has been an absolute embarrassment. I keep say it's no more than a championship team, and they would struggle in that, worth £20 I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, mikebv said: And fair play to him if that it what he is doing... A sensible business plan for me.. No one will really bother who wins a league of six teams (or let's he honest, any amount of teams), so makes strong sense to keep both clubs financially solvent.. There may end up being more fans at Peteborough than Lynn, but with less to pay out and getting money from concessions, car park etc, it could still be more profitable...? And with Speedway down to the "die hards" (who have proven by still regularly attending that they will accept whatever is provided), then why not run both business's this way? Makes clear sense if that is what he is doing.. You can be solvent & competitive. The gap between the two clubs in terms of rider's is massive, you can't tell me Peterborough's overheads are less than King's Lynn's. The way the teams were put together is chalk & cheese. It certainly gives the impression of caring far more for the Panthers than the Stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: You can be solvent & competitive. The gap between the two clubs in terms of rider's is massive, you can't tell me Peterborough's overheads are less than King's Lynn's. The way the teams were put together is chalk & cheese. It certainly gives the impression of caring far more for the Panthers than the Stars. Buster owns KL though doesn't he? Meaning he may get less watching there than he gets at Peterborough but still make more money than he would at Peterborough where he pays rent and wont get any anciliary income... We have seen a few times how successful seasons can actually help close tracks down due to the increase in outlay not being covered by an increase in crowds, so maybe having two succesful clubs could be a step too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, mikebv said: Buster owns KL though doesn't he? Meaning he may get less watching there than he gets at Peterborough but still make more money than he would at Peterborough where he pays rent and wont get any anciliary income... We have seen a few times how successful seasons can actually help close tracks down due to the increase in outlay not being covered by an increase in crowds, so maybe having two succesful clubs could be a step too far? Yes Buster owns the AFA. And no doubt Lynn needs less fans to break even. But He has had his beloved Lynn for over 20 years. Buys Peterborough, and neglects (imho) Lynn. Where the loyal fans have supported his team for decades. It don't sit well with me i'm afraid..I'm probably not the only one.. I'm not blaming Peterborough or their fans. Buster made the move by himself. But If he keeps things as they are with the two teams, some Stars fans will not bother, myself included. Lynn's team selection was shocking, and i suspect a good bit cheaper too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 For now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 who knows, maybe Kings Lynn will be all car racing and Peterborough for the speedway in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, stevehone said: who knows, maybe Kings Lynn will be all car racing and Peterborough for the speedway in the future? And no World F1 Stox Final for the AFA this year... That must make a fair old dent in the coffers given how many attend it... Edited June 17, 2021 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, semion said: For now Don't tease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, stevehone said: who knows, maybe Kings Lynn will be all car racing and Peterborough for the speedway in the future? Isnt Peterborough's future destined to be an housing estate Edited June 17, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEATTHEBOOKIEBOB Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Isnt Peterborough's future destined to be an housing estate I think you are correct Scoobydoo - 6500 new homes I seem to recall reading some 2 years ago starting in 2023 which would give us speedway for the rest of this season and all of 2022 - Can only hope the council have a change of heart - Too good a track to lose - I was thinking of moving there until I read that news - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, BEATTHEBOOKIEBOB said: I think you are correct Scoobydoo - 6500 new homes I seem to recall reading some 2 years ago starting in 2023 which would give us speedway for the rest of this season and all of 2022 - Can only hope the council have a change of heart - Too good a track to lose - I was thinking of moving there until I read that news - As far as I know the Council have decreed that any development at EOES must include provision for Speedway. In the long term it would be desirable IMO for Speedway and Ice Hockey to be aligned at the same venue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Isnt Peterborough's future destined to be an housing estate . . . . . Not anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 hours ago, wealdstone said: As far as I know the Council have decreed that any development at EOES must include provision for Speedway. In the long term it would be desirable IMO for Speedway and Ice Hockey to be aligned at the same venue Get those spikes out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 hours ago, wealdstone said: As far as I know the Council have decreed that any development at EOES must include provision for Speedway. In the long term it would be desirable IMO for Speedway and Ice Hockey to be aligned at the same venue Eh, how would that work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: . . . . . Not anymore. What’s the latest situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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