speedwaysliders Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SuperSpeed said: Eastbourne Eagles and Arlington Stadium are two separate concerns now, the speedway club rent the stadium from the Dugards on race nights. THANK you for that info,but as they are speedway people,would it not be possible for the Dugards to somehow set some kind of plan in place and not let it get this far,as they have been down this road before? Edited August 24, 2021 by speedwaysliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, screm said: Very poor from Eastbourne management. Eastbourne have been asked by BSPL not to make their statement today, I am sure as soon as they are allowed to speak they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Midland Red said: What does the league table matter? Surely, first of all, you go to watch the speedway racing. If there’s a meeting on, it hardly matters whether it’s for the Gold Cup, European Cup, League Title, Grand National or whatever. At the end of the day, it’s 14 riders battling it out on track with no brakes. Why cut your nose off to spite your face, just because the Mickey Mouse league title is out of reach. Support your club, pay your money, help to secure a future, enjoy the racing. Unfortunately that's not how everyone feels about speedway. Some people want to see their teams win, and have a chance of winning silverware. It's the same in every sport, when football teams get relegated their fans drop off in their thousands. Not everyone is happy to spend what little money they may have on just seeing some speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Midland Red said: What does the league table matter? Surely, first of all, you go to watch the speedway racing. If there’s a meeting on, it hardly matters whether it’s for the Gold Cup, European Cup, League Title, Grand National or whatever. At the end of the day, it’s 14 riders battling it out on track with no brakes. Why cut your nose off to spite your face, just because the Mickey Mouse league title is out of reach. Support your club, pay your money, help to secure a future, enjoy the racing. Of course it matters quite clearly not to you but to the majority it will ... People go to watch there team win Edited August 24, 2021 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, orion said: Of course it matters quite clearly not to you but to the majority it will ... People go to watch there team win Only if they've been indoctrinated that winning is everything. Plenty of regular attendees (note l don't say fans) go to a speedway be entertained, to enjoy a night out in convivial company and to watch a good contest, good racing and a thrill and spill. Your team wins, yes that's nice too, but it shouldn't be everything. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 IF the BSPL are holding things up with statements etc what about the riders? If the club is going to close they are running out of time to get fixed up elsewhere.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, crescent girl said: Only if they've been indoctrinated that winning is everything. Plenty of regular attendees (note l don't say fans) go to a speedway be entertained, to enjoy a night out in convivial company and to watch a good contest, good racing and a thrill and spill. Your team wins, yes that's nice too, but it shouldn't be everything. The fact remains in nearly every sport a winning team will get bigger crowds .. you might not like it but that is how it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 As the days go by and further anonymous “ holding statements” are put out the more tenuous EB speedway’s future under Jordan/Fineing becomes. The difficulty that BSPL have is the speedway club is owned by 2 directors outside the jurisdiction of BSPL. Neither they nor the 2 promoters appear to have the collateral to clear debt and to sustain the speedway operation. The limited liability of Eastbourne Eagles Ltd. Is £100. Sadly, I would suggest that unless the next home meeting on Sept 4th takes place, they will cease operations. The fixture disruption being caused seems almost irrecoverable before the play off date, and they have a KO cup fixture to complete. The late Jon Cook was another director, and would have similarly been outside the membership of the BSPL. I suspect that his previous promotion at Lakeside with Stuart Douglas , which ended unceremoniously allegedly owing money to riders prevented either taking up another promoters licence? Not for nothing the Dugard family have let out the speedway and stocks operations to others since the passing of Bob Dugard. I am sure they have decided they wanted no more direct involvement , but they expect a reasonable rental for use of their asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: As the days go by and further anonymous “ holding statements” are put out the more tenuous EB speedway’s future under Jordan/Fineing becomes. The difficulty that BSPL have is the speedway club is owned by 2 directors outside the jurisdiction of BSPL. Neither they nor the 2 promoters appear to have the collateral to clear debt and to sustain the speedway operation. The limited liability of Eastbourne Eagles Ltd. Is £100. Sadly, I would suggest that unless the next home meeting on Sept 4th takes place, they will cease operations. The fixture disruption being caused seems almost irrecoverable before the play off date, and they have a KO cup fixture to complete. The late Jon Cook was another director, and would have similarly been outside the membership of the BSPL. I suspect that his previous promotion at Lakeside with Stuart Douglas , which ended unceremoniously allegedly owing money to riders prevented either taking up another promoters licence? Not for nothing the Dugard family have let out the speedway and stocks operations to others since the passing of Bob Dugard. I am sure they have decided they wanted no more direct involvement , but they expect a reasonable rental for use of their asset. My understanding is that, under BSPL rules, directors, owners and promoters are treated the same. Edited August 24, 2021 by Wee Eck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, M.D said: Apparently there was a short statement but this has now been removed from the website Obviously Godfrey running down the transfer clock. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, speedwaysliders said: maybe ive missed a lot of the info to the build up to this season,but does anyone think the sad passing of Jon Cook was the start of things to come,as he had so much knowledge of how to go about things and get them done,a massive loss to the sport let alone eastbourne.Also dont the Dugard family have any input into the running of the club? I really dont understand how Eastbourne get themselves in this mess time and time again when they have all the assets of the stadium to full back on,either to promote other things specially during the holiday season,it cant be that much differance to Poole who DONT own the stadium but have made a fine go of it over the years(i know they are even struggleing at the moment).I know that other fans done on the south coast,most prob wont enjoy what im about to say but why not ALL CLUB OWNERS just pull together and promote SPEEDWAY down there,trying to attract old fans to travel,and also promote new blood coming in. Difference being Poole is next to the town centre and Eastbourne is in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure that doesn't make it easy for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer09 Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, tyretrax said: Obviously Godfrey running down the transfer clock. You bet he will have Lawson signed on already for Scunthorpe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendonebunching Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just been announced at Plymouth that the match against Eastbourne on the 7th September is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bendonebunching said: Just been announced at Plymouth that the match against Eastbourne on the 7th September is off. So that seems to be it, why the BSPL have asked them to delay the announcement is beyond me, obviously they want to give riders time to get fixed up NOT, ohh i forgot Scunthorpe are in the running for the Piss Ups.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 If Eastbourne pull out Leicester lose 7pts,is anyone from Leicester on the mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bendonebunching said: Just been announced at Plymouth that the match against Eastbourne on the 7th September is off. Oh dear!! If they are already calling off meetings 2 weeks away then yes that does appear to be it. Really bad news for Eastbourne and British Speedway if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, lewy said: If Eastbourne pull out Leicester lose 7pts,is anyone from Leicester on the mc Yes, Leicester speedway owner Damien Bates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: Yes, Leicester speedway owner Damien Bates Oh dear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, lewy said: Oh dear! Something fishy cooking here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, lewy said: If Eastbourne pull out Leicester lose 7pts,is anyone from Leicester on the mc Won't make any difference to Leicester getting into the play offs really and more or less nailed on Poole will come top, then you've still every chance if everyone performs as they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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