Fortythirtyeight Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, SuperSpeed said: If the season finished today I think my wife and I have effectively paid £44 per meeting Well listening to today’s gossip it appears neither the riders or the landlord has seen your money and I’m cancelling my b&b for next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Well listening to today’s gossip it appears neither the riders or the landlord has seen your money and I’m cancelling my b&b for next weekend. Wait until Tuesday then form an educated decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperSpeed said: If the season finished today I think my wife and I have effectively paid £44 per meeting That's shocking. Fingers crossed they see the season out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusader Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 13 hours ago, M.D said: Wait until Tuesday then form an educated decision Why what's happening Tuesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Old Crusader said: Why what's happening Tuesday? Probably visiting the accountant on Monday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Old Crusader said: Why what's happening Tuesday? Apparently big press release today or tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Is this a surprise to Eastbourne Supporters,seemed to be a well run club to me as an outsider.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Is this a surprise to Eastbourne Supporters,seemed to be a well run club to me as an outsider.? Same here always come across as a well run club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Is this a surprise to Eastbourne Supporters,seemed to be a well run club to me as an outsider.? Yes and no really. I did think with our crowd levels ( before covid) it would be a tight line financially, but with what seemed good sponsorship and the brilliant media side would be ok, but then covid happened. I do think alongside Birmingham and Kent to name a couple, we had a successful product taken away that was sustainable even now, and that was the proper National League of a few seasons ago and clubs like I've mentioned had no choice to go Championship or probably disappear as the NDL now seems a non event really, not a proper league and not as good a development tool. IOW bravely took things into their own hands which looks to have been a success for them which I comend, but does look a bit dire for a lot of clubs, we will see! Edited August 16, 2021 by gazzac 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 A sizeable group of lads and I went to Eastbourne speedway during my stag weekend 10 years ago. Eastbourne were having a double header and we only had the time to stay for the first meeting. Bob Dugard (RIP) was stood at the gate and welcomed us in with open arms and allowed us to only pay 50% of the charge trusting us all to leave once the first meeting finished which we duly did. The place was rammed to the rafters! How times have changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, gazzac said: Yes and no really. I did think with our crowd levels ( before covid) it would be a tight line financially, but with what seemed good sponsorship and the brilliant media side would be ok, but then covid happened. I do think alongside Birmingham and Kent to name a couple, we had a successful product taken away that was sustainable even now, and that was the proper National League of a few seasons ago and clubs like I've mentioned had no choice to go Championship or probably disappear as the NDL now seems a non event really, not a proper league and not as good a development tool. IOW bravely took things into their own hands which looks to have been a success for them which I comend, but does look a bit dire for a lot of clubs, we will see! Not good,I do think it was a mistake a few seasons ago not to merge the big leagues,with those who didn’t fancy the costs dropping to a then decent National League.Hope something can be sorted out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: Apparently big press release today or tomorrow? Could it be a "come or we'll close down" promotion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 You know things are bad if Eastbourne are struggling as they have a reputation (rightly) as a well-run club that pay their riders on time and a modern club that utilise social media etc well. Having said that, the new promotion must be mad if they're running off an 800-900 break even mark. Even the best-suppirted Championship clubs don't get much more than 1000 so that's a very risky tightrope to walk. Hopefully the club will stagger through and rejoin an improved NDL next season, which is very sustainable and plenty of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, solrac said: You know things are bad if Eastbourne are struggling as they have a reputation (rightly) as a well-run club that pay their riders on time and a modern club that utilise social media etc well. Having said that, the new promotion must be mad if they're running off an 800-900 break even mark. Even the best-suppirted Championship clubs don't get much more than 1000 so that's a very risky tightrope to walk. Hopefully the club will stagger through and rejoin an improved NDL next season, which is very sustainable and plenty of fun. Poole regularly get more than a 1000 every week when the stadium is fully open- and thats just in the main grandstand!! Edited August 16, 2021 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Sadly once riders stop getting paid or paid on time the trust and bond between rider and club can break down very quickly. Its a good team established at Eastbourne this year but with public financial issues and internal grumblings signing riders next year could prove tricky (providing this season completes). Relying on having a viable NDL to drop back into may be a thing of the past though as it was a sustainable alternative product to the higher leagues and as such seen as a threat and dismantled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Poole regularly get more than a 1000 every week when the stadium is fully open- and thats just in the main grandstand!! Fair play, yes Poole do but there won't be too many others I'd suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Sadly once riders stop getting paid or paid on time the trust and bond between rider and club can break down very quickly. Its a good team established at Eastbourne this year but with public financial issues and internal grumblings signing riders next year could prove tricky (providing this season completes). Relying on having a viable NDL to drop back into may be a thing of the past though as it was a sustainable alternative product to the higher leagues and as such seen as a threat and dismantled. Still far too much self interest in the Sport,that won’t change though .IMO Can see breakaway League in years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Sadly once riders stop getting paid or paid on time the trust and bond between rider and club can break down very quickly. Its a good team established at Eastbourne this year but with public financial issues and internal grumblings signing riders next year could prove tricky (providing this season completes). Relying on having a viable NDL to drop back into may be a thing of the past though as it was a sustainable alternative product to the higher leagues and as such seen as a threat and dismantled. Accept that this year NDL has been a bit stop start however with Newcastle and Birmingham experiencing problems this year then a stronger NDL next season may be worth considering for Briitish Speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, solrac said: Accept that this year NDL has been a bit stop start however with Newcastle and Birmingham experiencing problems this year then a stronger NDL next season may be worth considering for Briitish Speedway. But the almighty ruling powers don't want a stronger NDL because it rivals what they are serving up whereas the current weakened league can be run as a sideshow / aftershow proving how much "better" the higher leagues are. Its worked because for the past several seasons the NDL has been the best league in the UK, now the CL probably is......just a shame that its proving not to be sustainable in any way shape or form. It makes no difference how stable a few clubs run by the dictators are if there is no opposition there is no product. The loss of a renowned team like Eastbourne has further reaching implications, the disillusioned fans aren't going to just up and relocate to Kent or Poole every week, many sadly will drift away despite being good away supporters. The impact will be felt by the clubs left behind who will slip closer towards the same fate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Poole regularly get more than a 1000 every week when the stadium is fully open- and thats just in the main grandstand!! That's amazingly helpful. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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