Beowulf Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Hmm, I think we will have to put Harris as a possibility. He's put that race up from last year's SF on Twitter. And has said previously he looks forward to coming back to Poole. Not many away riders say that! Mainly the ex Motocross riders. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Middlo is TM, I imagine it will be a 'Ford' doing the deals! I'm aware of that - I only mentioned Middleditch as he was referred to in the original post. Is that alright ? Bloody ell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 hours ago, The Doctor... said: I'm aware of that - I only mentioned Middleditch as he was referred to in the original post. Is that alright ? Bloody ell.. Its 'Arnie' Middlo that is quoted in the local Echo today, He does say WE are already putting the 2020 team together , so 'We'll be back'!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Hopefully we get the team sorted early. Anyone think we might spend a little bit of money and get some team kevlar's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Interesting to see both Holders are riding for Torun next season despite them being relegated to the 2nd division. I'd like to see them both at poole next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said: Interesting to see both Holders are riding for Torun next season despite them being relegated to the 2nd division. I'd like to see them both at poole next season No thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, poolebolton said: No thank you. I think they'd be worth a shot. Rather have them at poole rather be against Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said: I think they'd be worth a shot. Rather have them at poole rather be against Poole chris yes jack no jack has not settled this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) On 10/2/2019 at 11:43 AM, ray c said: chris yes jack no jack has not settled this season Assuming money is still tight, I honestly can't see Ford letting both Kurtz & Jack Holder go. Bearing in mind both are assets so Poole get first choice. IF Chris Holder is allowed back then Ford faces a difficult decision of perhaps which one of the above does he loan out. Assuming that is he were to retain Klindt and Josh G. Having said that who says he won't maybe sacrifice one of those last 2 in order to keep both Holders and Kurtz. Even if conventional logic from many fans is that Klindt and Josh G should be the first names on the team sheet for 2020. Edited October 3, 2019 by STEVEHOLS54 typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: IF Chris Holder is allowed back then Ford faces a difficult decision of perhaps which one of the above does he loan out. Assuming that is he were to retain Klindt and Josh G. Having said that who says he won't maybe sacrifice one of those last 2 in order to keep both Holders and Kurtz. They can get lost with that idea! Josh and Nic in first, and if that means not being able to keep Brady or Jack, then tough. They should go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Assuming money is still tight, I honestly can't see Ford letting both Kurtz & Jack Holder go. Bearing in mind both are assets so Poole get first choice. IF Chris Holder is allowed back then Ford faces a difficult decision of perhaps which one of the above does he loan out. Assuming that is he were to retain Klindt and Josh G. Having said that who says he won't maybe sacrifice one of those last 2 in order to keep both Holders and Kurtz. Even if conventional logic from many fans is that Klindt and Josh G should be the first names on the team sheet for 2020. I really thought that jack would become an out and out no1 but he failed far short on that score. so I do think he will return to somerset next season providing they are in the top flight cant see klindt being anywhere but poole same with josh . hopefully nico will return as well but not poole asset . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Some people may recall that MF stated in the Winter 2018/19 off season that if Chris and Jack Holder wanted to ride together at any track other than Poole then that club would have to buy them rather than loan them. Whilst the feeling may be a little different now regarding Jack, I would think its still very much the view about CH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Some people may recall that MF stated in the Winter 2018/19 off season that if Chris and Jack Holder wanted to ride together at any track other than Poole then that club would have to buy them rather than loan them. Whilst the feeling may be a little different now regarding Jack, I would think its still very much the view about CH. Of course, any promoter interested in CH, or any Poole asset, should just invoke Miedzinski’s Law, which I’m sure you recall was a Swindon asset, wanted by his own club, however, Poole rode roughshod over that promotions wishes because he was on an extremely attractive average. By the time you’d used and abused the asset, with Poole paying only a loan fee, he was more or less worthless and rode part of a season on an over inflated average never to be seen in the UK again. I respectfully would argue if CH, or any Poole asset, can agree a contract elsewhere, then all you’ll be entitled to will be a loan fee. If Poole wanted to challenge a self employed riders status, as an asset, I look forward to Matt taking it to the relevant authority. Edited October 3, 2019 by theblueboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, theblueboy said: Of course, any promoter interested in CH, or any Poole asset, should just invoke Miedzinski’s Law, which I’m sure you recall was a Swindon asset, wanted by his own club, however, Poole rode roughshod over that promotions wishes because he was on an extremely attractive average. By the time you’d used and abused the asset, with Poole paying only a loan fee, he was more or less worthless and rode part of a season on an over inflated average never to be seen in the UK again. I respectfully would argue if CH, or any Poole asset, can agree a contract elsewhere, then all you’ll be entitled to will be a loan fee. If Poole wanted to challenge a self employed riders status, as an asset, I look forward to Matt taking it to the relevant authority. Ha ha still smarts a bit then?! Different BSPA MC nowadays and I can't believe MF riding 'roughshod' over Terry Russel or whoever the promoter was then, Gary somebody was it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, theblueboy said: Of course, any promoter interested in CH, or any Poole asset, should just invoke Miedzinski’s Law, which I’m sure you recall was a Swindon asset, wanted by his own club, however, Poole rode roughshod over that promotions wishes because he was on an extremely attractive average. By the time you’d used and abused the asset, with Poole paying only a loan fee, he was more or less worthless and rode part of a season on an over inflated average never to be seen in the UK again. I respectfully would argue if CH, or any Poole asset, can agree a contract elsewhere, then all you’ll be entitled to will be a loan fee. If Poole wanted to challenge a self employed riders status, as an asset, I look forward to Matt taking it to the relevant authority. Exactly. Riders will ride where they want irregardless of who owns their contract. The Miedzinski ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Some people may recall that MF stated in the Winter 2018/19 off season that if Chris and Jack Holder wanted to ride together at any track other than Poole then that club would have to buy them rather than loan them. Whilst the feeling may be a little different now regarding Jack, I would think its still very much the view about CH. Can he stop them earning a living, and refuse to loan them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Can he stop them earning a living, and refuse to loan them ? He won't be stopping them earning a living - they'll have jobs in Poland, Sweden etc. As far as CH is concerned it may well depend on which club supports/sponsors his visa/work permit application - and I know who has done the majority of the paperwork up to now!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Can he stop them earning a living, and refuse to loan them ? In reality no and I think if he tried it would be the end of this whole ridiculous asset system we have, Riders will ride where riders want to ride and rightly so, sooner we have a system where riders are treated as self employed who can sign contracts year to year and are free to move outside of those contracts the better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 The asset system is worth diddly squat, they can and will ride where the want, love to see any promoter try and contest it legally be a right laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Can he stop them earning a living, and refuse to loan them ? He has said in last few years that if a Poole rider wants to go elsewhere then they leave with his blessing. But you may as well try and get a sale out of it if poss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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