stevebrum Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Let's just wait, I can't see how it is viable for Berwick. I will be surprised if it happens. Sheffield and Kent make sense though. Kent? They struggle to run meetings to 15 heats with the curfew they have. Looks like no TV deal because no company will change their times to suit one club. Edited October 20, 2019 by stevebrum Altered information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Id be happy for any Champ team to replace Poole if Ford isn't trying to play things, and is serious, which I doubt he is. Let them drop down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I don't know.. But what I read is that Poole are the most successful team over the last 10 years, with the best sponsors and the best crowds. Yet Ford wants to charge the highest in the league for supporters. Not the best way to let the young ones to see whats on offer!! But more ££ for Ford and that's what counts in his book. You should know that by now . Ford is ££ for him. When that stops he don't want to know... Simples There must be some sort of cover up at Poole Had the best sponsors Had the best crowds One poor season and a loss of a sponsor and all of a sudden they have to drop down. Have all these years of chasing success and paying over the top money for the best riders finally broke the club that after one season there is nothing left to back it up? Matt Ford has put Poole in this position............he is a business man and now he isnt making any money he wants shot of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveLyric2 Posted October 21, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Get it right if you are gonna continue having a go. Poole lost 2 big long term sponsors in the lead up to 2019 as well as the end of the 2-year 2017/18 main sponsorship and then was seriously let down by the new main team sponsor mid-season. No club could easily withstand those losses to their budget of many many thousands of £££s!! Along with a reduction in attendances due in part to the change in race night as well as the increased number of TV meetings - and also at a time when MF is in the process of uprooting to a new business in France - why wouldn't he do the best for the club to continue racing under the stewardship (co-promotion) of his son and another - hardly wanting to get shot of it is he - unless a decent offer comes along which is the same for most clubs at any time? (If Ipswich were so secure with a great main sponsor then why did Louis need and accept financial help from Buster before the 2019 season? - Yes I know the 'full takeover contract' was never signed apparently!!) Poole have never paid over-the-top money but what they have done is always guarantee that riders get paid correctly and on time - something which attracts many riders who have been let down by other clubs both here and abroad!! By all means carry on having a go at Poole - we all get it - just get your facts right before repeating the same old same old! Edited October 21, 2019 by Skidder1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Get it right if you are gonna continue having a go. Poole lost 2 big long term sponsors in the lead up to 2019 as well as the end of the 2-year 2017/18 main sponsorship and then was seriously let down by the new main team sponsor mid-season. No club could easily withstand those losses to their budget of many many thousands of £££s!! Along with a reduction in attendances due in part to the change in race night as well as the increased number of TV meetings - and also at a time when MF is in the process of uprooting to a new business in France - why wouldn't he do the best for the club to continue racing under the stewardship (co-promotion) of his son and another - hardly wanting to get shot of it is he - unless a decent offer comes along which is the same for most clubs at any time? (If Ipswich were so secure with a great main sponsor then why did Louis need and accept financial help from Buster before the 2019 season? - Yes I know the 'full takeover contract' was never signed apparently!!) Poole have never paid over-the-top money but what they have done is always guarantee that riders get paid correctly and on time - something which attracts many riders who have been let down by other clubs both here and abroad!! By all means carry on having a go at Poole - we all get it - just get your facts right before repeating the same old same old! It still adds up to one difficult year and chuck the towel in ....... Matt and the fans it seems like ....... what is being asked is whatabout all those great years where the money was rolling in, huge crowds etc, long gone? To be fair I don't think promoters have ever kept monies aside in case of a rainy day ...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 hours ago, lisa-colette said: There is already a Poole thread in the CL, if you had a look you would know! So of you go then and bore them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Get it right if you are gonna continue having a go. Poole lost 2 big long term sponsors in the lead up to 2019 as well as the end of the 2-year 2017/18 main sponsorship and then was seriously let down by the new main team sponsor mid-season. No club could easily withstand those losses to their budget of many many thousands of £££s!! Along with a reduction in attendances due in part to the change in race night as well as the increased number of TV meetings - and also at a time when MF is in the process of uprooting to a new business in France - why wouldn't he do the best for the club to continue racing under the stewardship (co-promotion) of his son and another - hardly wanting to get shot of it is he - unless a decent offer comes along which is the same for most clubs at any time? (If Ipswich were so secure with a great main sponsor then why did Louis need and accept financial help from Buster before the 2019 season? - Yes I know the 'full takeover contract' was never signed apparently!!) Poole have never paid over-the-top money but what they have done is always guarantee that riders get paid correctly and on time - something which attracts many riders who have been let down by other clubs both here and abroad!! By all means carry on having a go at Poole - we all get it - just get your facts right before repeating the same old same old! I fully agree with this. Yes there has been the usual mud slinging from various quarters but this is the cold reality once the 'banter' stops For ANY club to run at ANY level requires a huge amount of goodwill and sponsorship right from ground level fans to the big corporate main sponsors There is no club in the land that could've withstood the situation Poole found themselves in. It certainly isnt about poor promotion. Whatever faults Matt Ford has can be debated but a lack of promotion and savvy isnt one of them I dont buy the 'surely he can swallow one season' position - let it go on and the next season isnt the problem it is the whole existence of a club at risk. For that if the switch stabiliises then a switch is right That is pretty much the situation Ipswich found themselves in and moving to the Championship was exactly the correct choice at that time The fact that despite better than average attendances and an enviable sponsorship position still meant that a move back to the top level wasnt a no brainer says it all about just what it takes to run at the highest level Even with what has to be considered a very successful year at Foxhall I dont imagine Chris is sitting at home in a bath of £50 notes! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Get it right if you are gonna continue having a go. Poole lost 2 big long term sponsors in the lead up to 2019 as well as the end of the 2-year 2017/18 main sponsorship and then was seriously let down by the new main team sponsor mid-season. No club could easily withstand those losses to their budget of many many thousands of £££s!! Along with a reduction in attendances due in part to the change in race night as well as the increased number of TV meetings - and also at a time when MF is in the process of uprooting to a new business in France - why wouldn't he do the best for the club to continue racing under the stewardship (co-promotion) of his son and another - hardly wanting to get shot of it is he - unless a decent offer comes along which is the same for most clubs at any time? (If Ipswich were so secure with a great main sponsor then why did Louis need and accept financial help from Buster before the 2019 season? - Yes I know the 'full takeover contract' was never signed apparently!!) Poole have never paid over-the-top money but what they have done is always guarantee that riders get paid correctly and on time - something which attracts many riders who have been let down by other clubs both here and abroad!! By all means carry on having a go at Poole - we all get it - just get your facts right before repeating the same old same old! Ignore him Clive it wont matter what you say, he's just a troll and a pillock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I fully agree with this. Yes there has been the usual mud slinging from various quarters but this is the cold reality once the 'banter' stops For ANY club to run at ANY level requires a huge amount of goodwill and sponsorship right from ground level fans to the big corporate main sponsors There is no club in the land that could've withstood the situation Poole found themselves in. It certainly isnt about poor promotion. Whatever faults Matt Ford has can be debated but a lack of promotion and savvy isnt one of them I dont buy the 'surely he can swallow one season' position - let it go on and the next season isnt the problem it is the whole existence of a club at risk. For that if the switch stabiliises then a switch is right That is pretty much the situation Ipswich found themselves in and moving to the Championship was exactly the correct choice at that time The fact that despite better than average attendances and an enviable sponsorship position still meant that a move back to the top level wasnt a no brainer says it all about just what it takes to run at the highest level Even with what has to be considered a very successful year at Foxhall I dont imagine Chris is sitting at home in a bath of £50 notes! Good post! Not so sure about the mental image at the end though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Ignore him Clive it wont matter what you say, he's just a troll and a pillock. Says the person who thinks Poole will have more home fixtures if they drop down lol............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Ignore him Clive it wont matter what you say, he's just a troll and a pillock. Pot kettle black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I fully agree with this. Yes there has been the usual mud slinging from various quarters but this is the cold reality once the 'banter' stops For ANY club to run at ANY level requires a huge amount of goodwill and sponsorship right from ground level fans to the big corporate main sponsors There is no club in the land that could've withstood the situation Poole found themselves in. It certainly isnt about poor promotion. Whatever faults Matt Ford has can be debated but a lack of promotion and savvy isnt one of them I dont buy the 'surely he can swallow one season' position - let it go on and the next season isnt the problem it is the whole existence of a club at risk. For that if the switch stabiliises then a switch is right That is pretty much the situation Ipswich found themselves in and moving to the Championship was exactly the correct choice at that time The fact that despite better than average attendances and an enviable sponsorship position still meant that a move back to the top level wasnt a no brainer says it all about just what it takes to run at the highest level Even with what has to be considered a very successful year at Foxhall I dont imagine Chris is sitting at home in a bath of £50 notes! Forget the issues with sponsors there was other issues already at Poole. How then can a team that wins the league in 2018, see a reduction in season ticket sales the following season........did the club sit back and just feel the numbers would take care of themselves? All i can go by is what we at Ipswich do by going out into the community and promote that way..........maybe Poole did that i dont know. I would be stunned if after the success of this season if Ipswich saw a reduction in season tickets sold I would say that the change of race night was a huge reason....... If speedway moved from Thursdays at Foxhall im sure the crowd would drop Edited October 21, 2019 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Didn't ford rent a shop in the town,,, selling merch and advertising the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 "I would say that the change of race night was a huge reason....... " Spot on Gavan. Same thing happened to Rye House. Think I said this about 30 posts earlier. Matt Ford lost interest before the end of last season (2018), club was up for sale , no one wanted in then , handed it over to his son to run. He just took fixed race nights on the chin.... probably knew his crowd would drop. MAybe all the Poole riders who dont fit in the CL will go to Kent "on loan" to Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, geoff58 said: all poole posts should be on championship page now Not accepted yet so you are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christalan Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Obviously some of you do not know that at the present time Poole are still in the Premiership and will continue to be so at least up until the BSPA AGM and as nothing has been decided yet they may well continue in the Premiership. So until the outcome has been ratified one way or the other lets wait and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ray c said: Not accepted yet so you are wrong Come on ray c you are one of the decent Poole supporters you have got to have a laught. When Brandon was closing SS was naming the roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 With the new tv deal done and dusted could it mean a change of heart by matt shame if not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, ray c said: With the new tv deal done and dusted could it mean a change of heart by matt shame if not Doesn't the TV deal statement also include Championship meetings in their coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Booey boy said: Come on ray c you are one of the decent Poole supporters you have got to have a laught. When Brandon was closing SS was naming the roads Nobody was glad that Coventry closed, i remember going there for gp meetings great days and much missed. Personally not happy that we are relegating ourselves, just will not feel the same in a lower league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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