Trotter65 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 I remember Poole dropping to the Second Division and they were very good in it with the likes of Steve Schofield and Craig Boyce... What were the crowds like then compared to when they dropped down and did they increase a lot when coming back up when Marvyn Cox was the new number 1 if not mistaken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Surely with the right level of promotion, crowds at Poole should be one of the highest in the country? What? More than the often quoted national 'best' of 1,500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Good post Steve. Some of that 20% is down to race night. I know SS dismisses it but I think it plays a bigger part than he thinks. About dropping down a league, maybe they have looked at the success Leicester have had since dropping down. Plus a Poole rider did ride for Leicester last season maybe they have had an insight into that success. Significant difference in that Leicester have been challenging near the top, compared to there time in the top flight. Poole is a different kettle of fish. Also significant that only 70% have said they would support a Championship team.. so that could mean an immediate loss of 30%. Then when some of those 70% see what the actual side is... could be even more. I still believe Poole are hoping simply to get Wednesday back and stay in top flight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, gustix said: What? More than the often quoted national 'best' of 1,500? Ya should have been at Swindon the other night, a few thousand there, blokes singing and dancing without tops on, you'd have loved it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Significant difference in that Leicester have been challenging near the top, compared to there time in the top flight. Poole is a different kettle of fish. Also significant that only 70% have said they would support a Championship team.. so that could mean an immediate loss of 30%. Then when some of those 70% see what the actual side is... could be even more. I still believe Poole are hoping simply to get Wednesday back and stay in top flight. 1. Who knows what percentage of the crowd voted 'online' on the Echo survey. 2. I would hope people use other teams in the CL team as comparison before condemning the team. 3. They can't be given Weds nights in the PL. I'm sure Buster would offer it straight away if he could. Even if in the slim chance that Buster could offer it, you could have no Danes, that rules out Klindt and Josh! (As he has signed for a Danish team next season too.) Edited October 20, 2019 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Good post Steve. Some of that 20% is down to race night. I know SS dismisses it but I think it plays a bigger part than he thinks. About dropping down a league, maybe they have looked at the success Leicester have had since dropping down. Plus a Poole rider did ride for Leicester last season maybe they have had an insight into that success. Have you read steve shovler on twitter interesting comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, ray c said: Have you read steve shovler on twitter interesting comment Yeah, it is a fair enough point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: 1. Who knows what percentage of the crowd voted 'online' on the Echo survey. 2. I would hope people use other teams in the CL team as comparison before condemning the team. 3. They can't be given Weds nights in the PL. I'm sure Buster would offer it straight away if he could. Even if in the slim chance that Buster could offer it, you could have no Danes, that rules out Klindt and Josh! (As he has signed for a Danish team next season too.) Klindt has already ruled himself out on Twitter, calling it a backward step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Klindt will be wearing a witches team suit in 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Significant difference in that Leicester have been challenging near the top, compared to there time in the top flight. Poole is a different kettle of fish. Also significant that only 70% have said they would support a Championship team.. so that could mean an immediate loss of 30%. Then when some of those 70% see what the actual side is... could be even more. I still believe Poole are hoping simply to get Wednesday back and stay in top flight. I don't think your point about success can be under estimated. Word I got was that a hugely successful NL Birmingham drew bigger gates than a disastrously unsuccessful EL Brummies side - there were certainly some on here who swore that they would never go given the drop in standards and ended up choking on their own venom as Birmingham won back to back titles. It is true that if the team is poor attendances could fall lower than the 70% figure stated, but if they are successful some of the 30% might go anyway. Stopping going altogether in the face of a winning side is much harder than walking away if they are rubbish whatever league they are in, and it isn't as though the team will be massively different - as Matt Ford stated, 70% of the riders will be the same anyway. He's right. One thing I believe is certain : Ford won't have made this decision without a deal of thought, analysis and consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, Grachan said: Klindt has already ruled himself out on Twitter, calling it a backward step. I was talking about Klindt in the PL not CL, to the point Bwitcher was making about Poole having Weds in the PL. I don't see how it can happen with Denmark riding Weds too and would rule out 2 riders that you would want to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Starman2006 said: And then you woke up... Why do you have to belittle other clubs all the time, no wonder you get so much flak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Don't think the hospital let him go out further than Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Biggest crowd I’ve seen in years at Leicester last night for the play off 1st leg against Glasgow. I certainly didn’t dream that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/19/2019 at 3:36 PM, lisa-colette said: I guess it depends on if people's work hours are fixed or are in shift patterns. They do need to think about doing 'child free with a paying adult' in the holidays though. They used to do that all the time in the early 2000 era. Any club that doesn’t go for a children and parent deal in the summer is beyond crazy. Get families with children is the lifeblood of all clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Halifaxtiger said: I don't think your point about success can be under estimated. Word I got was that a hugely successful NL Birmingham drew bigger gates than a disastrously unsuccessful EL Brummies side - there were certainly some on here who swore that they would never go given the drop in standards and ended up choking on their own venom as Birmingham won back to back titles. It is true that if the team is poor attendances could fall lower than the 70% figure stated, but if they are successful some of the 30% might go anyway. Stopping going altogether in the face of a winning side is much harder than walking away if they are rubbish whatever league they are in, and it isn't as though the team will be massively different - as Matt Ford stated, 70% of the riders will be the same anyway. He's right. One thing I believe is certain : Ford won't have made this decision without a deal of thought, analysis and consideration. How many times is this going to be trotted out.. NO THEY WILL NOT. Championship teams are significantly weaker and that will soon be realised when the Poole team is announced. The difference between Leicester and Poole.. and Birmingham you mentioned... Poole are used to success, used to the top riders. A lot of their fans have already left as the top riders disappeared... even a table topping side this year couldn't bring them back... Edited October 20, 2019 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Don't think the hospital let him go out further than Poole. Thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Any club that doesn’t go for a children and parent deal in the summer is beyond crazy. Get families with children is the lifeblood of all clubs. They might do a family ticket. But they always used to do U16s free with a paying adult. But it seemed to get gradually phased out. They might do it for Good Friday but I didn't see anything for the Summer holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, lisa-colette said: They might do a family ticket. But they always used to do U16s free with a paying adult. But it seemed to get gradually phased out. They might do it for Good Friday but I didn't see anything for the Summer holidays. All kids under 16 should be free with a parent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Currently 67% of riders in the premiership ride in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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