mikebv Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, semion said: Lynn fans didn’t walk away from Saddlebow when Buster took us down a notch. In fact the buzz came back to the place for a few years. Loads of rider/fan interaction in those days. Nothing wrong with the 2nd tier. The standard there has remained constant I've thought for quite a few seasons that the Aces should have 'dropped down'... Many of the Championship teams are northern based and many of the Aces riders over the past good few years have rode in the Championship anyway so it's not like there's any 'superstar' that will be missed that currently brings a crowd in.. Could have rode Fridays or Saturdays too... None of the league titles carry any real kudos anyway so you might as well ride in the one that gets you the most financial return.. More variety of teams visiting and, I would assume, lower rider costs.. I would think they would get 1400 or so every weekend no problem considering the good crowds they get at NL. With circa 1800-2000 at BH's.. And BV, with their history and standing in the sport, would be a crowd puller for the home teams they visit too meaning more fans visiting tracks.. Which can never be a bad thing.. Edited October 11, 2019 by mikebv 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, semion said: Lynn fans didn’t walk away from Saddlebow when Buster took us down a notch. In fact the buzz came back to the place for a few years. Loads of rider/fan interaction in those days. Nothing wrong with the 2nd tier. The standard there has remained constant More variety of teams in the Champ too! As long as the racing is good, does it matter who is under the helmet? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Oh I wonder if Steve has been advised to start a debate about what Poole fans think about what league they want. To have such a extreme viewpoint has certainly got people talking! Seeing as they didn't get their questionnaires out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: More variety of teams in the Champ too! As long as the racing is good, does it matter who is under the helmet? Completely agree . Over the last 10 years we have had at least 3 seasons in all 3 leagues . The entertainment has probably been best in the 2nd tier . I have found the ability between riders is not as great as in other leagues . Other than the odd rider . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Oh I wonder if Steve has been advised to start a debate about what Poole fans think about what league they want. To have such a extreme viewpoint has certainly got people talking! Seeing as they didn't get their questionnaires out! Don't be so silly Lisa. The Poole gob just loves the sound of his own voice/keyboard. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, semion said: Lynn fans didn’t walk away from Saddlebow when Buster took us down a notch. In fact the buzz came back to the place for a few years. Loads of rider/fan interaction in those days. Nothing wrong with the 2nd tier. The standard there has remained constant Those eight seasons 2003-10 were some of the most enjoyable I’ve experienced as a Lynn fan. The enormous home wins wore a bit thin at times but we had riders who really got involved with the fan base, won several trophies and had some great weekend away trips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Rockstar99 said: Don't think your a fan of Poole either considering you would turn your back on the club if they were to run Championship Speedway in 2020. When times are tough that is when your club needs you the most. Who is turning their back on their club? Not me. I am a home and away supporter and will continue to be so. I have been to every track this season and will visit every track next season. A proper Pirates fan who actually attends meetings supporting the team. Not a pretend fan who follows from speedwayupdates or twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Who is turning their back on their club? Not me. I am a home and away supporter and will continue to be so. I have been to every track this season and will visit every track next season. A proper Pirates fan who actually attends meetings supporting the team. Not a pretend fan who follows from speedwayupdates or twitter. Not if we're in the Championship you won't by your own admission. You are not a 'proper Pirates fan' as you won't continue to follow us IF we do drop down. Therefore you will be turning your back on your (supposed) club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, chris4gillian said: Not if we're in the Championship you won't by your own admission. You are not a 'proper Pirates fan' as you won't continue to follow us IF we do drop down. Therefore you will be turning your back on your (supposed) club. Stop being more of a pillock than you already are. Poole will not be in the CL. Edited October 10, 2019 by Steve Shovlar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Stop being more of a pillock than you already are Evans. Poole will not be in the CL. You are a 1 man minority, fact. I'd rather be a 'pillock' than what the majority of folk on here think you are. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Who is turning their back on their club? Not me. I am a home and away supporter and will continue to be so. I have been to every track this season and will visit every track next season. A proper Pirates fan who actually attends meetings supporting the team. Not a pretend fan who follows from speedwayupdates or twitter. Even at Championship level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rockstar99 said: Don't think your a fan of Poole either considering you would turn your back on the club if they were to run Championship Speedway in 2020. When times are tough that is when your club needs you the most. You odviously are not a true fan then, if Swindon dropped down to the NL i would still go everyweek. Edited October 11, 2019 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Who is turning their back on their club? Not me. I am a home and away supporter and will continue to be so. I have been to every track this season and will visit every track next season. A proper Pirates fan who actually attends meetings supporting the team. Not a pretend fan who follows from speedwayupdates or twitter. So in your eyes if you dont go you are not a true fan............idiot As ive explained i have a life outside of speedway.......im divorced and have my children every wednesday and Thursday and every other friday saturday and sunday............more important to me then going to speedway im afraid....ive been 5 times this season and im going on Monday weather permitting I would suggest im more of a fan then you if you are prepared to turn your back on your club if they drop down.................Poole speedway dont need fans like you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 The Premiership would be a hell of alot poorer without Poole in the league but hazarding a guess i recon 99.9 per cent of Poole fans on the forum would still go and support there club whatever level they ride at.My take on it is speedway is speedway a night out hopefully be entertained by some good racing and go home happy 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: The Premiership would be a hell of alot poorer without Poole in the league but hazarding a guess i recon 99.9 per cent of Poole fans on the forum would still go and support there club whatever level they ride at.My take on it is speedway is speedway a night out hopefully be entertained by some good racing and go home happy One league, but geographical, might be the boost the sport needs? Similar to American Football, you ride against those within your own conference twice home and away and once against teams from the other... Probably will need six or even five man teams and be ran at 'Championship Lite' level with maybe some form of rider control to ensure an even spread of the better riders, but could be worth it.. Eg 1. Prem HL 2. Champ HL/Prem 2nd String 3. Champ 2nd String/Prem Reserve 4. Champ Reserve/NL Heat Leader 5. NL Second String 6. NL Reserve Maybe grade these riders but have an overall mean team average to prevent teams getting the best rider in each grade through paying more? As said before, BV visiting Redcar, Berwick, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sheffield, Scunthorpe and Newcastle can only be good for those clubs, and BV would also I am sure reap the benefits (even if just the once for novelty value) of a fair few away fans visiting the NSS.. Maybe Buxton and Stoke could pool resources and make a comeback at this level at Hi Edge given the local derbies? Poole would do the same as the Aces I am sure for the likes of for example, Plymouth, Somerset, Eastbourne and the IOW in the Southern part of the Country.. Play offs could then be ran within each conference before the winners of each go head to head in the Grand Final.. Market the sport as a fresh start, with a truly national competition, and see if more variety of clubs to visit/be visited by, would give it some positive fan growth momentum to be built on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: One league, but geographical, might be the boost the sport needs? Similar to American Football, you ride against those within your own conference twice home and away and once against teams from the other... Probably will need six or even five man teams and be ran at 'Championship Lite' level with maybe some form of rider control to ensure an even spread of the better riders, but could be worth it.. Eg 1. Prem HL 2. Champ HL/Prem 2nd String 3. Champ 2nd String/Prem Reserve 4. Champ Reserve/NL Heat Leader 5. NL Second String 6. NL Reserve Maybe grade these riders but have an overall mean team average to prevent teams getting the best rider in each grade through paying more? As said before, BV visiting Redcar, Berwick, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sheffield, Scunthorpe and Newcastle can only be good for those clubs, and BV would also I am sure reap the benefits (even if just the once for novelty value) of a fair few away fans visiting the NSS.. Maybe Buxton and Stoke could pool resources and make a comeback at this level at Hi Edge given the local derbies? Poole would do the same as the Aces I am sure for the likes of for example, Plymouth, Somerset, Eastbourne and the IOW in the Southern part of the Country.. Play offs could then be ran within each conference before the winners of each go head to head in the Grand Final.. Market the sport as a fresh start, with a truly national competition, and see if more variety of clubs to visit/be visited by, would give it some positive fan growth momentum to be built on.. great on paper. in reality do I want to watch an NDL reserve or 2nd string racing v Jason Doyle and Nils Kristian Iversen er Nope! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Stop being more of a pillock than you already are. Poole will not be in the CL. By stating that you won't watch Poole if the drop down, you have shown what type of supporter your are, and will cop some flack whether they go down or not. If it was posted for a reaction, then it worked. If it was genuine then your not as Poole through and through as you like to make out. Either way people are going to react. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: By stating that you won't watch Poole if the drop down, you have shown what type of supporter your are, and will cop some flack whether they go down or not. If it was posted for a reaction, then it worked. If it was genuine then your not as Poole through and through as you like to make out. Either way people are going to react. Why would anyone who goes home and away would walk away because they have dropped down a league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, ray c said: Why would anyone who goes home and away would walk away because they have dropped down a league When they’re a Shoveller by name . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mikebv said: One league, but geographical, might be the boost the sport needs? Similar to American Football, you ride against those within your own conference twice home and away and once against teams from the other... Probably will need six or even five man teams and be ran at 'Championship Lite' level with maybe some form of rider control to ensure an even spread of the better riders, but could be worth it.. Eg 1. Prem HL 2. Champ HL/Prem 2nd String 3. Champ 2nd String/Prem Reserve 4. Champ Reserve/NL Heat Leader 5. NL Second String 6. NL Reserve Maybe grade these riders but have an overall mean team average to prevent teams getting the best rider in each grade through paying more? As said before, BV visiting Redcar, Berwick, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sheffield, Scunthorpe and Newcastle can only be good for those clubs, and BV would also I am sure reap the benefits (even if just the once for novelty value) of a fair few away fans visiting the NSS.. Maybe Buxton and Stoke could pool resources and make a comeback at this level at Hi Edge given the local derbies? Poole would do the same as the Aces I am sure for the likes of for example, Plymouth, Somerset, Eastbourne and the IOW in the Southern part of the Country.. Play offs could then be ran within each conference before the winners of each go head to head in the Grand Final.. Market the sport as a fresh start, with a truly national competition, and see if more variety of clubs to visit/be visited by, would give it some positive fan growth momentum to be built on.. I like this Mike it looks exciting , but you know how it is in speedway short term paper over the cracks measures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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